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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Delmar on August 24, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
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Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:06 PM
Kablooie (9,200 posts)
I just checked for the best selling book on Amazon...
It's:
"The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic"
by Mark R. Levin
Uh oh.
Levin also wrote "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto".
How depressing to find that a conservative political treatise is the best selling book.
No matter how insane or destructive the right becomes, a huge percentage of Americans will continue to toady after them religiously.
It seems nothing will ever change that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023479749
Uh oh is right.
Response to Kablooie (Original post)Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:09 PM
dflprincess (19,710 posts)
1. The best seller lists are manipulated.
Especially the non-fiction one. It could be that there are conservatives groups (think ones with money) buy large quanitites of the book. Eventually they'll wind up giving away or selling at reduced prices for some kind of promotional deal.
Projection. Somewhere in Massachusetts there is a warehouse still, to this day, filled with musty copies of Profiles in Courage by John F. (for f**khead) Kennedy bought by his Nazi loving old man to boost sales figures. But I must admit that I bought two copies of The Liberty Amendments, one in hardcover and one in the audiobook format.
Response to dflprincess (Reply #1)Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:19 AM
lpbk2713 (23,604 posts)
5. Very true
Look for this title in a month or two in the clearance rack at the Dollar Store.
Same way as the Quitter's ghost written bullshit.
No DUmmy, look for Levin's ideas to catch fire in the coming months.
Response to Kablooie (Original post)Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:11 PM
enlightenment (6,564 posts)
2. Perhaps
people buy books that they may disagree with in order to know what arguments the author is making. Knowledge is power; to counter an argument, you need to know what argument is being made.
Not everyone who buys a book agrees with what it says or the philosophy behind it.
DUmmies are incapable of understanding an argument for limiting the power of the federal government. To them there is no downside to a an all-powerful centralized government--as long as it's leftist run.
Response to Kablooie (Original post)Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
nadinbrzezinski (125,173 posts)
3. The list was manipulated
Regnery buys back a lot of their own books and give them away to people at conservative events.
They buy them back and then give them away? Why wouldn't they just give them away? Oh right, because they want to make sure that Mark Levin is #1.
Mark Levin is #1. Suck on that, you stupid bald dwarf.
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Same song, different verse.
A conservative does something notable its because of fraud and manipulation.
A liberal does something notable, its because the people have spoken.
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The libs & DUmmies have been spewing that tired crap for years. If Howard Zinn or Paul Krugman could actually sell 5k books, I'd be impressed. Well, not really.
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They're just pissed because it's not Rules for Radicals or The Communist Manifesto...or perhaps the two ghost written Obama books that are the best seller.
If the little goons had their way that's all you'd ever see in the top 5 on the Best Sellers list.
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Response to Kablooie (Original post)Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:12 PM
nadinbrzezinski (125,173 posts)
3. The list was manipulated
Regnery buys back a lot of their own books and give them away to people at conservative events.
nads knows. Buy yourself a nads book. Except for amazon.com, you can't get them in stores. She's probably tried. (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=nadin+brzezinski&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Anadin+brzezinski)
Why does wee willie have a wikipedia entry and the all-knowing nada doesn't?
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How do they explain the fact that conservative books stay on the best seller lists for long periods of time? O'Reilly is a perfect example of that.
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How do they explain the fact that conservative books stay on the best seller lists for long periods of time? O'Reilly is a perfect example of that.
Deep pockets by the conservative organizations that continue to buy them. /DUmb****
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Those lists don't mean much.
I remember New York Times Bestselling Author Bill Pitt, whose anti-Bush rant was less than half-inch thick, from a vanity publisher who would only run off however many copies DUmmy Raven would pay for in advance.
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I get a kick out of Levin when he gets on a roll. I like his take on things. I know this is off topic, but his analysis of Holder's suit against my home state of Texas is dead on. It's all about enabling voter fraud and getting as many future Dimocrap voters across the border as they can. The Reconquista is well underway.
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Response to Kablooie (Original post)Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:09 PM
dflprincess (19,710 posts)
1. The best seller lists are manipulated.
Especially the non-fiction one. It could be that there are conservatives groups (think ones with money) buy large quanitites of the book. Eventually they'll wind up giving away or selling at reduced prices for some kind of promotional deal.
While true, the Libs do it just as much as anyone on the right, so it's kind of a wash. How many of Obozo's or Hitlery's ghost-written tomes do you really, seriously think were full-retail, one-book, end-reader sales?
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While true, the Libs do it just as much as anyone on the right, so it's kind of a wash. How many of Obozo's or Hitlery's ghost-written tomes do you really, seriously think were full-retail, one-book, end-reader sales?
As late as 2007, one could still find Genevieve Ferrari's autobiography (written in 1985), in used book stores and thrift stores around here--in their original, unopened, plastic wrapping. Stacks of them, and usually in the 10-for-a-buck tubs.
They seem to have finally disappeared now; I guess once in a while people clear off their shelves and send such stuff to the paper recycler.
Alas! for Walter Mundane's 1984 running mate.
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Amazon's best seller list is real. Based solely on actual sales.
Now the NYT's list is manipulated and guessed. No science at all, just what the regressives at the Times want to push.
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Amazon's best seller list is real. Based solely on actual sales.
What is manipulated at Amazon is the review system.
There are services authors can hire to pump up a huge number of five-star reviews.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/08/28/fake-reviews-amazons-rotten-core/
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I disagree with Levin's idea about a convention. When a government ignores the law, the answer is not to make more laws.
But I get great pleasure from the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Leftists, the failed lobotomy recipients at the DUmp most of all.
Continue to entertain me, DUmmy clowns. Entertain me!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/Suicide_Clown_zpsf4a3171f.jpg)
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I disagree with Levin's idea about a convention. When a government ignores the law, the answer is not to make more laws.
But I get great pleasure from the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Leftists, the failed lobotomy recipients at the DUmp most of all.
Continue to entertain me, DUmmy clowns. Entertain me!
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag72/conscave/Suicide_Clown_zpsf4a3171f.jpg)
These are laws they are actual amendments to the Constitution.
If the Republicans on the Federal Level aren't gonna do the right thing...it's up to the states...30 of which are either completely red or are 2/3rds red to step up and stop this downaward spiral to completely socialism and the final undoing of the Constitution.
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These are laws they are actual amendments to the Constitution.
Yes, I know. The US Constitution is the single most-ignored legal document in the United States, and has been since the Wilson administration. There is no enforcement mechanism to the Constitution, so the government can ignore it at will (and it does- every day in every way). King Hussein wipes his ass with the Constitution, while the legislative and judicial branches support him.
If the Republicans on the Federal Level aren't gonna do the right thing...it's up to the states...30 of which are either completely red or are 2/3rds red[/b] to step up and stop this downward spiral to completely socialism and the final undoing of the Constitution.
"Republican" does not equal "conservative", and it certainly does not equal "opposed to Federal dollars". How many state legislatures would voluntarily choke the Federal pig, and cut their state services to balance their own budgets? "Nice state you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it."
As Levin said (first in 2011, and again in The Liberty Amendments), 'The United States has become a Post-Constitutional government transitioning into an increasingly Utopian tyranny." The argument is not whether it is happening, but whether it has happened. I think we passed that point.
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"Republican" does not equal "conservative", and it certainly does not equal "opposed to Federal dollars". How many state legislatures would voluntarily choke the Federal pig, and cut their state services to balance their own budgets? "Nice state you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it."
Since you seem to know why don't you tell us.
As Levin said (first in 2011, and again in The Liberty Amendments), 'The United States has become a Post-Constitutional government transitioning into an increasingly Utopian tyranny." The argument is not whether it is happening, but whether it has happened. I think we passed that point.
It's happening yes...and there's still time to stop it.
And what you seem to want to purposely leave out of all of that is that Levin...as well as a LOT of people...still think that it can be pulled back from the brink. I will never agree with the people that think that it's not worth voting anymore or that we should just curl up and quit trying.
That's a mind numbingly stupid position to take. I'm not in any way saying that's the position you've adopted...however you sound dangerously close to taking that stance.
And that is exactly what the Libtards want...is for us to give up.
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First edition, from first 50 run actually, signed and authenticated. Along with a rodeo clown to boot.
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/liberty_obama_zpsf0861e50.jpg)
Take that, DUmmies. PS: I've already read it. Twice. (The ebook version; this book is staying mint).
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First edition, from first 50 run actually, signed and authenticated. Along with a rodeo clown to boot.
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/liberty_obama_zpsf0861e50.jpg)
Take that, DUmmies. PS: I've already read it. Twice. (The ebook version; this book is staying mint).
I'm jealous beyond words
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Since you seem to know why don't you tell us.
It's happening yes...and there's still time to stop it.
And what you seem to want to purposely leave out of all of that is that Levin...as well as a LOT of people...still think that it can be pulled back from the brink. I will never agree with the people that think that it's not worth voting anymore or that we should just curl up and quit trying.
That's a mind numbingly stupid position to take. I'm not in any way saying that's the position you've adopted...however you sound dangerously close to taking that stance.
And that is exactly what the Libtards want...is for us to give up.
I'm not giving up. If you have read The Art of War, you'll understand.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'll agree that new Constitutional amendments would be followed by the Federal government.
Here are my Liberty Amendments:
1. The power of the Federal government shall not extend beyond those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution and its amendments.
2. The United States government shall spend no money, except for money specifically budgeted. The Federal budget for any fiscal year shall not exceed 90% of the tax revenue of the second tax year preceding. The remaining 10% of the tax revenue shall be used to pay the Federal debt. If the Federal debt reaches zero, the money earmarked for debt reduction shall be placed into an escrow account for the purpose of financial stability.
3. Effective on the date of ratification of this Amendment, sovereign immunity shall be null and void for the United States government, all agencies therein, and all elected officials, appointees, employees, and agents. Each elected official, appointee, employee, and agent of the United States government may be held personally liable for all acts committed while in office; to include criminal, civil, and financial liability. The costs of legal defense and judgment against of any elected official, appointee, employee, or agent convicted or found liable for damages against any Citizen shall not be paid from the Federal budget.
4. No elected official, employee, appointee, or agent shall be paid from the Federal budget for more than twenty years' lifetime maximum. For the purposes of this amendment, military service shall not be included in calculation of Federal employment.
5. No person, corporation, nor association shall pay a greater percentage of Federal tax for income or capital gain, than any other. Calculation of income or capital gain shall be made from the first cent from all sources, without deduction or exception. The United States shall not subsidize any producer, supplier, or industry, except through purchase of goods or services.
6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself.
7. Failure by the Chief Executive to fully and faithfully execute the laws of the United States shall be a "high crime" as stated in Article II, Section 4 of this Constitution.
More to come...
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I'm not giving up. If you have read The Art of War, you'll understand.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'll agree that new Constitutional amendments would be followed by the Federal government.
Here are my Liberty Amendments:
1. The power of the Federal government shall not extend beyond those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution and its amendments.
2. The United States government shall spend no money, except for money specifically budgeted. The Federal budget for any fiscal year shall not exceed 90% of the tax revenue of the second tax year preceding. The remaining 10% of the tax revenue shall be used to pay the Federal debt. If the Federal debt reaches zero, the money earmarked for debt reduction shall be placed into an escrow account for the purpose of financial stability.
3. Effective on the date of ratification of this Amendment, sovereign immunity shall be null and void for the United States government, all agencies therein, and all elected officials, appointees, employees, and agents. Each elected official, appointee, employee, and agent of the United States government may be held personally liable for all acts committed while in office; to include criminal, civil, and financial liability. The costs of legal defense and judgment against of any elected official, appointee, employee, or agent convicted or found liable for damages against any Citizen shall not be paid from the Federal budget.
4. No elected official, employee, appointee, or agent shall be paid from the Federal budget for more than twenty years' lifetime maximum. For the purposes of this amendment, military service shall not be included in calculation of Federal employment.
5. No person, corporation, nor association shall pay a greater percentage of Federal tax for income or capital gain, than any other. Calculation of income or capital gain shall be made from the first cent from all sources, without deduction or exception. The United States shall not subsidize any producer, supplier, or industry, except through purchase of goods or services.
6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself.
7. Failure by the Chief Executive to fully and faithfully execute the laws of the United States shall be a "high crime" as stated in Article II, Section 4 of this Constitution.
More to come...
I really like the bolded. I hope that the 'more to come' strengthen the RKBA.
Having typed that, I also believe that our 'American experiment' can be pulled back from the brink. It may require serious bloodshed, but I think that it can be done without it (the serious bloodshed).
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I really like the bolded. I hope that the 'more to come' strengthen the RKBA.
Having typed that, I also believe that our 'American experiment' can be pulled back from the brink. It may require serious bloodshed, but I think that it can be done without it (the serious bloodshed).
Number 6 suffers from the same weakness that hampers the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment right now, in that it is not explicit as to who has standing to bring a suit based upon it, unless the person can prove they were directly harmed, and so amounts to no improvement over the existing language of that Amendment. It would have to go on to say something to the effect that 'Any citizen has standing to bring suit for violation of this provision.'
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Levin's book has caught fire in Long Island :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiOPsDk5rOA
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I have a problem with #4. If I understand you, I am done with employment with the government after 20 years.
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Apparently the DUmmie is really afraid of Americans who can read and comprehend.
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I'm not giving up. If you have read The Art of War, you'll understand.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'll agree that new Constitutional amendments would be followed by the Federal government.
Here are my Liberty Amendments:
1. The power of the Federal government shall not extend beyond those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution and its amendments.
2. The United States government shall spend no money, except for money specifically budgeted. The Federal budget for any fiscal year shall not exceed 90% of the tax revenue of the second tax year preceding. The remaining 10% of the tax revenue shall be used to pay the Federal debt. If the Federal debt reaches zero, the money earmarked for debt reduction shall be placed into an escrow account for the purpose of financial stability.
3. Effective on the date of ratification of this Amendment, sovereign immunity shall be null and void for the United States government, all agencies therein, and all elected officials, appointees, employees, and agents. Each elected official, appointee, employee, and agent of the United States government may be held personally liable for all acts committed while in office; to include criminal, civil, and financial liability. The costs of legal defense and judgment against of any elected official, appointee, employee, or agent convicted or found liable for damages against any Citizen shall not be paid from the Federal budget.
4. No elected official, employee, appointee, or agent shall be paid from the Federal budget for more than twenty years' lifetime maximum. For the purposes of this amendment, military service shall not be included in calculation of Federal employment.
5. No person, corporation, nor association shall pay a greater percentage of Federal tax for income or capital gain, than any other. Calculation of income or capital gain shall be made from the first cent from all sources, without deduction or exception. The United States shall not subsidize any producer, supplier, or industry, except through purchase of goods or services.
6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself.
7. Failure by the Chief Executive to fully and faithfully execute the laws of the United States shall be a "high crime" as stated in Article II, Section 4 of this Constitution.
More to come...
I like it. :yahoo:
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Line for Levin book signing circles town (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiOPsDk5rOA)
Suck on it, retards.
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Number 6 suffers from the same weakness that hampers the Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment right now, in that it is not explicit as to who has standing to bring a suit based upon it, unless the person can prove they were directly harmed, and so amounts to no improvement over the existing language of that Amendment. It would have to go on to say something to the effect that 'Any citizen has standing to bring suit for violation of this provision.'
I used the language in the First Amendment, "Congress shall make no law...".
I see the benefit of being explicit on the right of Citizens to have standing. That would be a good addition to Part II of Big Dog's Liberty Amendments.
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What is manipulated at Amazon is the review system.
There are services authors can hire to pump up a huge number of five-star reviews.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharmananderson/2012/08/28/fake-reviews-amazons-rotten-core/
All I can say is that (1) I bought the book with my own money and (2) my book review was real and I'm not in the employ of a service that "pumps up" reviews.
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Thanks to DAT's wise counsel, #6 is changed to:
6. Congress shall make no law which exempts any Citizen or group of Citizens, including itself. Any Citizen who is not exempted by a Federal law which exempts any other Citizen or group of Citizens, shall have standing to file an injunction or demand relief against the United States Government, each member of the Senate and House of Representatives who voted for the bill in question, and the President of the United States, if the President signed the bill in question.
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Since you seem to know why don't you tell us.
Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.
I have a problem with #4. If I understand you, I am done with employment with the government after 20 years.
Unless you are military then you should be done after 20 years as a government worker. We have too damn many government workers as it is which is probably the number one reason the country is in the shitter right now.
Anyway... one amendment I would like to propose is the "Sunset Amendment" which would automatically end any law or regulation at the fed level that itself is not a part of the constitution's written language at the 10 year anniversary of its signing into law. Congress and the President at the time of the 10 year anniversary would have the option to approve the law for another 10 years, but if the votes aren't there then tough shit. Said law is null and void at that point. This would effectively kill Fedzilla, and get us back to a limited government. Bullshit fascist crap such as Obamacare would be limited in the damage it could do, as would other clearly unconstitutional legislation unless the people keep electing a Pelosi type Congress that keeps renewing it. Eventually, a somewhat sane Congress will be elected that refuses to renew it, or enough gridlock occurs that these laws expire.
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Unless you are military then you should be done after 20 years as a government worker. We have too damn many government workers as it is which is probably the number one reason the country is in the shitter right now.
Good luck finding any skilled workers with no promise of a retirement. Who do you think fixes, builds,,etc all those toys the military plays with??
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Who do you think fixes, builds,,etc all those toys the military plays with??
Are those people employed by the government or contracted out to private contractors?
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Are those people employed by the government or contracted out to private contractors?
Employed by the goverment. Did everyone just miss the 650,000 DoD workers that were furloughed?
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Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.
Eat a d*ck champ.
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Shut up jerk. Stop being such a never ending prick to even the people on your same side politically just because they have the unmitigated gall to disagree with you on the merest of trivial matters. Somebody must have beaten your ass as a kid over and over again for you to keep up with the attitude that you clearly have as an adult.
Eat a d*ck champ.
Fight!!!! Fight!!!! Fight!!!!
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