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Title: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: marv on August 23, 2013, 06:13:04 AM
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Planned Parenthood employees will soon have access to a vast federal database of sensitive information, including the Social Security number, tax form, bank account, and medical records of every single American citizen as the president seeks their help in implementing ObamaCare.

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HHS will not require background checks or fingerprinting of employees, and a previous criminal conviction – including one for identity theft – does not necessarily disqualify an employee from becoming a navigator.

Navigators and their assistants will have access to the federal data hub, an online nexus containing information from the Department of Health and Human Services and seven federal departments: the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Defense Department, the Office of Personnel Management, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Peace Corps.

To expedite hiring before the exchanges go live on October 1, the administration has scaled back screening and cut new employees' training from 30 hours to 20.

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Just the Facts:

1. Navigators have access to the federal data hub, including medical records, tax forms, and Social Security numbers.

2. The data hub culls information from the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Defense Department, the Office of Personnel Management, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Peace Corps.

3. The Obama administration awarded three grants to hire “navigators” to: Planned Parenthood of the Heartland ($214,427), Intermountain Planned Parenthood, Inc.($295,604), and Planned Parenthood of Northern New England ($145,161).

4. West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey raised privacy concerns in a letter signed by attorneys general from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas.

5. Troy Newman of Operation Rescue told LifeSiteNews.com that “civil disobedience might be the only solution” for Americans to defend their liberties.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 08:59:35 AM
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“civil disobedience might be the only solution”

Civil WAR will be the only solution.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: marv on August 23, 2013, 09:16:07 AM
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Planned Parenthood employees will soon have access to a vast federal database of sensitive information, including the Social Security number, tax form, bank account, and medical records of every single American citizen as the president seeks their help in implementing ObamaCare.

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HHS will not require background checks or fingerprinting of employees, and a previous criminal conviction – including one for identity theft – does not necessarily disqualify an employee from becoming a navigator.

What could go wrong.........? (http://members.socket.net/~mcruzan/avatars/banghead.gif)
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
Of ann the goofy entities, why the hell Planned Parenthood?  :mad:  :argh:
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: marv on August 23, 2013, 09:44:42 AM
...access to SSA, DoD, IRS and bank records? No criminal background check? Why not just do away with voter registration and voting anyway? They won't be needed after the "navigators" collect all the personal information they want.

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Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Dori on August 23, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
Of ann the goofy entities, why the hell Planned Parenthood?  :mad:  :argh:

It isn't just Planned Parenthood, they are also using the newly renamed ACORN people too.

Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 01:39:55 PM
It isn't just Planned Parenthood, they are also using the newly renamed ACORN people too.

Oh, that's much better........  :killemall:
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 23, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
Umm, whatever happened to HIPAA?  Did that get thrown out the window in the "0bamacare" bill that had to be passed before we could read it?  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 02:49:04 PM
Umm, whatever happened to HIPAA?  Did that get thrown out the window in the "0bamacare" bill that had to be passed before we could read it?  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Don't you already know they pay attention only to the laws that benefit them? Other laws are broken at will.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on August 23, 2013, 02:58:03 PM
Don't you already know they pay attention only to the laws that benefit them? Other laws are broken at will.

Duly noted.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Zathras on August 24, 2013, 01:13:18 AM
I hope we have one of these navigators show up where I work....I plan on reading them the riot act if they try to get me to sign up for the Unaffordable Care Act.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: RobJohnson on August 24, 2013, 02:04:21 AM
Umm, whatever happened to HIPAA?  Did that get thrown out the window in the "0bamacare" bill that had to be passed before we could read it?  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

It's scary. Not to mention the cost of the navigators to the tax payers.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: biersmythe on August 24, 2013, 09:38:20 AM
Don't you already know they pay attention only to the laws that benefit them? Other laws are broken at will.

They don't even look if they are breaking laws. They think they are above all law and reign over us. This idea is about right for the leftest and repubs it will be the fastest way to destroy the american way of life when your are decimated financially and have no recourse cause you cant sue the government and win. Owebuma care was never designed to work, it was designed to collapse the healthcare system so that the gumment can take over and socialism will have one more foothold in the American way of life. Vladimir Lenin once said "Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state." I know that law was passed by the demon rats only, But the repubs have done NOTHING substantial to de-fund or get rid of it.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on August 24, 2013, 09:41:09 AM
You speak the truth, biersmythe.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 26, 2013, 10:15:01 PM
Really scary and dangerous.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Karin on August 29, 2013, 10:11:37 AM
I wonder if this is somehow a path back to the Supreme Court? 

I will not be giving my info to any bureaucrat creep "navigator" under any circumstances. 

BTW, has anyone seen any signs of implementation in your area?  Billboards, TV ads, radio ads, local TV news interviews with a bureauweenie?  I have not, not one peep.  No ads for navigator job hirings.  Nothing at all.  Strange.  No wonder half the country don't realize it's a law (poll I saw on this morning's news).
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: DefiantSix on August 29, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
I will not be giving my info to any bureaucrat creep "navigator" under any circumstances. 

You won't have to.  Dear Leader, because he cares about you, doncha know, will be giving it to them FOR YOU. :whatever:
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Linda on August 29, 2013, 10:40:15 AM
You won't have to.  Dear Leader, because he cares about you, doncha know, will be giving it to them FOR YOU. :whatever:

I believe you are right and it is already happening. My mom (82 years old) received a phone call from someone (she doesn't know who) wanting to assist her with her prescription and medical coverage.
 
The person on the phone already knew what her prescriptions were AND how much she was paying for them. 

It wasn't her pharmacy calling so how else could you explain the person on the phone having so much knowledge of my mom's prescriptions?
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: vesta111 on August 30, 2013, 07:56:16 AM
I believe you are right and it is already happening. My mom (82 years old) received a phone call from someone (she doesn't know who) wanting to assist her with her prescription and medical coverage.
 
The person on the phone already knew what her prescriptions were AND how much she was paying for them. 

It wasn't her pharmacy calling so how else could you explain the person on the phone having so much knowledge of my mom's prescriptions?

This is an easy one to take a guess at.     Medical office workers or pharmacy workers in school may need some money.   Tempting to them to be paid extra to check the files for people over say the age of 75 for their prescribed medication.    Just knowing what the prescription will tell them what the patients are being treated for.

Or a temp working for low wages for a good size company can check out the workers that have dependents on their insurance company.   Name age and #ss number.

Your mother at 82 years unless living on a trust may be getting midi care or some form of health insurance. Someone some where is getting a under the table cash for each person they speak to, know under Obama care who is headed for the do not treat because of age or disability.  A big red flag that has a DNR on it be the 90 or 2 years old with cancer.

Interesting way to work genocide into the population with no one noticing.

   

Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Karin on August 30, 2013, 03:35:04 PM
Linda, that sounds very strange.  Did you ever find out who the hell is was?  They have those ads on TV warning elderly people not to give out information over the phone.  I can see huge fraud and scams rampant through the whole mess!  Nobody knows what's going on, so they can easily be fooled into giving out all sorts of information.

"It's in Obamacare, didn't you know that?  Under penalty of fine and jail you must provide to me your ______" 

I don't answer the phone if I don't know the number.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: whiffleball on August 31, 2013, 05:34:35 AM
All we need is another jobs program full of incompetents with access to our most private information.

I saw an ENT last year for the first time and his office obtained my records electronically from somewhere.  They had me down as taking 3 drugs I'd never heard.  They also had 2 antibiotics down as continuous that I had taken a few years back for only a 7 day stretch at a time. 

What if I had been admitted to a hospital unable to communicate?  It's likely these drugs would have been given to me with horrible results.   All because some moron wasn't paying attention and didn't care. 

Unvetted personnel could cause problems for others by entering false data and using personal data.  Being federal employees, the chances of any personnel action for unauthorized or malicious use of that data is almost nil.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: biersmythe on September 01, 2013, 10:50:35 AM
All we need is another jobs program full of incompetents with access to our most private information.

I saw an ENT last year for the first time and his office obtained my records electronically from somewhere.  They had me down as taking 3 drugs I'd never heard.  They also had 2 antibiotics down as continuous that I had taken a few years back for only a 7 day stretch at a time. 

What if I had been admitted to a hospital unable to communicate?  It's likely these drugs would have been given to me with horrible results.   All because some moron wasn't paying attention and didn't care. 

Unvetted personnel could cause problems for others by entering false data and using personal data.  Being federal employees, the chances of any personnel action for unauthorized or malicious use of that data is almost nil.

That very well might be the plan my friend. The gumment ISN'T your friend and they are NOT here to help.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: rich_t on September 01, 2013, 12:16:32 PM
Civil WAR will be the only solution.

I fear you are correct.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: CG6468 on September 01, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
I fear you are correct.

Me, too, Rich. Me, too.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Dori on September 01, 2013, 12:39:23 PM
I saw an ENT last year for the first time and his office obtained my records electronically from somewhere.  They had me down as taking 3 drugs I'd never heard.  They also had 2 antibiotics down as continuous that I had taken a few years back for only a 7 day stretch at a time. 

That's scary.  What if someone else's information had wrongly been entered for you?  You know those mistakes are not going to be few. 

What if you wanted to find out what they had entered for you, you'll probably be denied or it will take an act of God to ever get it straightened out.

 
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: biersmythe on September 01, 2013, 01:53:10 PM
I don't know if you would ever get these gumment workers to correct ANYTHING wrong in the information about your healthcare. I will bet that the monkeys you will be talking to wont have the authority to change the data base, fill out 10 forms in triplicate and we will call you!!! Ever had a problem with a auto title? will be the same thing.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Dori on September 01, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
I don't know if you would ever get these gumment workers to correct ANYTHING wrong in the information about your healthcare. I will bet that the monkeys you will be talking to wont have the authority to change the data base, fill out 10 forms in triplicate and we will call you!!! Ever had a problem with a auto title? will be the same thing.

And just think about the mischief it can cause.  What if they use a wrong code for something and it gets leaked.  Good way to hurt your political enemies. 
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: whiffleball on September 01, 2013, 04:18:46 PM
And just think about the mischief it can cause.  What if they use a wrong code for something and it gets leaked.  Good way to hurt your political enemies. 

That's what I was thinking.  OFA et al will make good use of patient database.
Title: Re: ‘Navigators’ will have access to Americans’ personal information...
Post by: Linda on September 02, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Linda, that sounds very strange.  Did you ever find out who the hell is was?  They have those ads on TV warning elderly people not to give out information over the phone.  I can see huge fraud and scams rampant through the whole mess!  Nobody knows what's going on, so they can easily be fooled into giving out all sorts of information.

"It's in Obamacare, didn't you know that?  Under penalty of fine and jail you must provide to me your ______" 

I don't answer the phone if I don't know the number.

I still do not know who called her. But she is smart enough not to give out her information. If she has a question about something she will have my husband call the people back to get clarification for her. She didn't like them knowing more about her info than she did either.