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Catherina (32,523 posts)
WTF. Army Releases Photo of Wikileaker Bradley Manning in Wig and Makeup
Last edited Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
WHY? WHY would you do this now? Does he have too much sympathy and support for you? Is this supposed to make people hate him or something? Despicable intention. I'd like to know the context of "get rid of it" too. I'd also like to know how this was "leaked" since no cameras and cellphones are allowed in the courthouse.
I got the link from a Washington Post Pentagon correspondent.
Ernesto Londoño â€@londonoe 20m
The @USArmy has released a photo of #Manning dressed as a woman. http://gawker.com/army-releases-photo-of-wikileaker-bradley-manning-in-wi-1149171595 …
Bradley, you look lovely. Stay strong.
Army Releases Photo of Wikileaker Bradley Manning in Wig and Makeup
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18x468tkabm6djpg/ku-bigpic.jpg)
The U.S. military released a photograph yesterday of Wikileaks leaker Bradley Manning wearing makeup and a blonde wig—the first such photo of Manning, who is transgender.
The photograph was attached to an email Manning had sent to a therapist, Capt. Michael Worsley, about his gender identity, in which he expressed a belief that his career in the military might "get rid of it."
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http://gawker.com/army-releases-photo-of-wikileaker-bradley-manning-in-wi-1149171595
Outraged comments at Gawker
I think this is appalling. To release this photo, at this juncture (while his sentence is being decided), in an attempt to dehumanize him in the eyes of the most bigoted segments of our society is simply hideous behavior on the part of our government. Shame on you, Army. Today 1:03pm
first of all why the **** are they releasing this photo, that is *******ed unnecessary. what kind of a ****ing message does this send to the transgender service members that are still in? absolutely disgusting.
trans service members are everywhere. I was active duty when i came to terms with myself and I knew a trans man in my unit. we go in looking for something or to run from ourselves, just like he did. but you cant run from yourself, it just resurfaces stronger and more potent. I feel so bad for this kid. seriously my heart aches that he will never be able to pursue anything related to transition, if he were so inclined. he looks very pretty in his blonde wig.
What I was about to type. What was the purpose? It's not like people were asking for this. Today 1:06pm
What does his being transgender have to do with anything? This is a low and disgusting effort to break him, a tactic of the weak and unprincipled. I see right through these military weasels, and I hope others do as well. Today 1:10pm
Is there no doctor-patient confidentiality violation here? Today 1:05pm
Dear Army, Seriously, go **** yourselves. Today 1:08pm
This is just...****ing awful. Why do this? Today 2:26pm
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Manning's attorneys contend he showed clear signs of deteriorating mental health before and during his deployment that should have prevented commanders from sending him to a war zone to handle classified information.
Manning eventually came out to Capt. Michael Worsley, emailing the clinical psychologist a photo of himself in a long, blond wig and lipstick. The photo was attached to a letter titled "My problem," in which Manning described his internal struggle and said he had hoped that a military career would "get rid of it."
http://www.wbal.com/article/102073/2/template-story/Psychologist-Manning-Suffering-From-Gender-Identity-Disorder
hlthe2b (48,265 posts)
2. That surely ought to cause an enormous backlash and backfire on all involved...
That judge really ought to add this to a long list of governmental injustices in determining sentence.
Deplorable...
Remember kids: if someone demands the world see them as X then it is wrong to show them to the world as X.
Fire Walk With Me (38,415 posts)
4. Hopefully this will most painfully blowback upon the government and give aid to Brianna. n/t
Like what, retard?
PS -- don't ever say "blowback" when talking about poofy little queers
Catherina (32,523 posts)
9. I hope so too. So far it's backfiring.
Those goons are so out of touch with real people.
Don't say "backfiring" either.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023467863
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That picture creeps me out and if Bradley didn't want people to see him like that then he shouldn't be out in PUBLIC like that.
KC
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The primitive females and the gay mafia are just jealous that he's prettier than they are (which doesn't take much). The male primitives are jealous of his lipstick and "How does he get his hair to do that? I work on it for hours and can't do a thing."
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Backfiring with whom? :???:
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I think this is appalling.
Agreed.
He should NOT go with blond. With those eyebrows he should stick with brunette.
Dude, get to a fashion adviser!
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There really is a Corporal Klinger!
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There really is a Corporal Klinger!
Never made Corporal, in this case. Amazing what can happen when you throw a hissy fit over your butt buddy sayin' it's over.
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HereSince1628 (26,886 posts)
17. Any locker-room lawyers who can tell us if the military is immune to HIPAA requirements?
I'm just short of shocked that the extra-legal, non-judicial, punishment of Manning includes publishing doctor-patient communications to the public.
It seems in someone's mind there just isn't enough punishment for Manning unless he serves in prison with his transgender status published to the world.
No, the Army is not immune from HIPAA requirements.
But since you fags lobbied so-o-o-o-o-o -- ahem -- long and hard to have faggotry removed from the list of mental illnesses it isn't really an issue, is it?
Catherina (32,525 posts)
22. The published the entire heartbreaking email
https://www.rmda.army.mil/foia/FOIA_ReadingRoom/%28a%29%282%29%28D%29%20-%20Records%20released%20to%20the%20public%20under%20t/PFC%20Bradley%20E.%20Manning%20Court-Martial%20Trial%20Documents/DE%20QQQ-From%20Lim%20to%20Kerns.pdf
and they've got some real twits telling all the outraged people on twitter that it's no big deal.
Transphobia and homophobia are alive and well in the US military.
PUBLISHING EMAILS?!?!?!
Oh, wait.
This was published under FOIA. Since the defense in making a point of claiming Manning's fagness lead him to act out (BTW: fagness used to disqualify people from security clearances in the past) I can't help but wonder if this is -- like all Proglodyte issues -- ginned-up outrage.
In fact, I wouldn't put it beyond gawker to have filed the FOIA request then use it to publish an article about the travesty of the Army releasing the information.
Hydra (10,506 posts)
20. Nothing wrong with being born the wrong gender Bradley
And your service to us was exemplary.
No, it wasn't. He's a violent misogynist.
Mosby (3,151 posts)
21. This is a really, really bad precedent
Why would any soldier go to a military psychologist or shrink about suicidal thoughts or symptoms of PTSD if they know none of the communications are confidential?
I think the AMA and the APA need to speak up loudly about this breach of trust.
How about the breach of trust amongst our national security assets putting their lives on the line to undermine AQ?
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Transphobia and homophobia are alive and well in the US military.
Uh, perverts are frowned upon by most normal people.
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Lee-Lee (440 posts)
30. It all depends on how this was brought up
I think this was introduced into evidence by the defense, as they seem to be bringing his gender identity issues up as part of the defense.
If so, and his defense entered it into evidence, then there is no HIPPA protection because he, via his legal team, made it available. And since all evidence not deemed classified is public record, there it is.
I am also very bothered by the whole issue of his defense using his gender identity issues as a defense. In the midst of a fight for equality, if it really what we need for he defense to be "I couldn't help it, I am gay/transgendered/confused"? You can't have it both ways, and fight for equality but them claim because you are gay you should be given leniency or treated differently.
It also has some pretty ominous implications for those going for a security clearance. If he is using as his defense/excuse for the worst leaks in Army history "I was confused about my gender", they now have plenty of justification to use that against any applicant for a security clearance who may be gay or transgendered.
The whole deal of his defense trying to use his sexuality and gender issues as a defense for his leaks just rubs me the wrong way. I don't like the precedent it sets, nor what it says between the lines-"I can't be trusted because I am gay".
Wee-Wee gets it.
Ms. Deep Throat does to:
msanthrope (18,225 posts)
32. THis was a defense exhibit, released under FOIA--so complaining about its release is about as
silly as complaining that evidence in any other trial has been released
Dammit! I hate when a good outrage falls apart.
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Will traitor Manning be partaking of the two week furlough to get married in another state? :whatever:
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Will traitor Manning be partaking of the two week furlough to get married in another state? :whatever:
In any other time and place, I'd say not no, HELL no; but as we are currently located deep in the heart of Bizzarro World, all bets are off.
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I don't know what they're pissed off about. The photo is from the defense, and aren't they supposed to believe all this stuff is just peachy-keen anyway?
And who the hell is "Brianna"? Is that supposed to be Manning's female alterego or something?
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And who the hell is "Brianna"? Is that supposed to be Manning's female alterego or something?
Yes.
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Yes.
:rotf:
Isn't it just so DU? To have a confused, mentally unstable, sexually perverted, halfwit traitor as a hero? Only they can personally identify with that level of extreme ****tardery.
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Didn't Klinger get promoted to sergeant somewhere along the way?
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DELIBERATELY RELEASING PERSONAL DATA HARMFUL TO PEOPLE IS BAD!!!
Except when it is a conservative, of course.
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DELIBERATELY RELEASING PERSONAL DATA HARMFUL TO PEOPLE IS BAD!!!
Except when it is a conservative, of course.
Well, conservatives are untermenschen; "Lebensunwertes Leben" as it were, so of course harming conservatives physically or socially is perfectly acceptable. It's not like they're actually people who can feel it...[/DUmbass] :thatsright:
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If it's part of the court-martial record of trial (Which a sanity board file is) it's completely releasable unless specifically protected by some privilege. Pictures of people in stupid clothes and dressed up for bone-smuggling are not protected by any evidentiary or FOIA privilege.
Too bad, so sad, DUmmieland homos.
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Autumns should never impersonate winters.
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Looks like a freak show as the traitor he is. :mental:
So, was it Bradley or Brianna who did the crime?
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If the Army lets the terrorist hasan wear his beard to trial, I would hope they allow britteny to wear a simple black dress and spike heels.
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If the Army lets the terrorist hasan wear his beard to trial, I would hope they allow britteny to wear a simple black dress and spike heels.
Before labor day ?
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Before labor day ?
This isn't a lawn party, it's a solemn judicial proceeding.
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This isn't a lawn party, it's a solemn judicial proceeding.
Quite right, quite right.
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If the Army lets the terrorist hasan wear his beard to trial, I would hope they allow britteny to wear a simple black dress and spike heels.
Maybe Brianna will be able to put in an appearance at the Cell Block Debutante's Ball. :popcorn:
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Maybe Brianna will be able to put in an appearance at the Cell Block Debutante's Ball. :popcorn:
I'm betting she will have a full dance card.
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Given the fact that DU has no problem outing people whether it be real names emails sent to others that they gotten their hands on etc...their outrage over this is stupid and trivial.
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The DUmmies (particularly the BLTPDQ DUmmies) refuse to connect the dots, follow the arc, and cross the Rubicon, and admit that Manning betrayed them.
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The DUmmies (particularly the BLTPDQ DUmmies) refuse to connect the dots, follow the arc, and cross the Rubicon, and admit that Manning betrayed them.
It's because they're not using "the good rig." :tongue:
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Fire Walk With Me (38,415 posts)
4. Hopefully this will most painfully blowback upon the government and give aid to Brianna.
I thought this was too funny. What painful blowback? What backlash? This is the first I'm hearing of the whole creepy thing. And FYI DUmmies, we currently have a government that feels it can do whatever the **** it wants. No matter what. Any and all backlashes are ignored.
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Didn't Klinger get promoted to sergeant somewhere along the way?
Yes he did. He also stopped cross dressing and stayed in Korea to help his wife find her parents. She wore the dress at the wedding this time.