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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: bijou on June 18, 2008, 02:22:57 PM
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-18-08 01:21 AM
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DU photographer convicted of failing to show sufficient respect to police...
Advertisements [?]This has been covered in the Photography Group for some time, but I think it needs a wider audience.
Carlos Miller (a.k.a. RagingInMiami) was convicted on several counts in connection with an incident where he disobeyed police orders to stop taking photos of an accident investigation they were making on a public street. He was essentially assaulted by the police, refused a plea bargain that would have restricted his sentence to "time served," and was now found guilty of, essentially, not being properly deferential to the authorities and a reluctance to willingly give up the First Amendment on their say-so.
I really don't have the time to go into the story much, but you can read more about it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-18-08 09:28 AM
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15. It gets WORSE....
Read Raging's blog entry here. The judge actually gave him four times the sentence the prosecutor asked for...then lectured him about his "attitude" of "non-remorse," and how he should visit Arlington National Cemetery to learn about what real heroes are like!!!
I don't use these terms lightly, but Judge Fernandez is a ****ing Nazi and a disgrace to the judicial system. May he rot in hell!
and from the blog: http://carlosmiller.com/2008/06/18/its-finally-over-or-is-it/
How can one resist an unlawful arrest?
That is the question I asked the judge when I was informed of the jury’s verdict, which came in at 11:45 p.m. , after almost two-and-a-half hours of deliberations:
Not guilty on disobeying a police officer
Not guilty on disorderly conduct
Guilty on resisting arrest without violence.
Judge Jose L. Fernandez, who turned out to have an extreme contempt for me, was unable to answer that question, even though he had asked if I had any questions after the verdict was read.
Instead, Fernandez said I was guilty of obstructing traffic, the single charge the jury was not allowed to rule on because it is considered a traffic infraction and not a misdemeanor charge.
Although prosecutor Ignacio Vazquez was (thankfully) asking for only three months probation and court costs, Fernandez slammed me with one year of probation, 100 hours of community service, anger management class and $540.50 in court costs.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3474931
That 'truth to power' thing isn't working out too well. :-)
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On his blog, he cusses out the judge. And to think he and others wonder why he was sentenced to, among other things, anger management courses.
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On his blog, he cusses out the judge. And to think he and others wonder why he was sentenced to, among other things, anger management courses.
I can just picture the guy in court... :whatever:
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LOLZ!
A quote from his blog:
Quite frankly I’m appalled at all the support that “photojournalist†Carlos Miller has received from some quarters of the journalism community here in South Fla.
Even a casual reading of the facts surrounding the case shows that you were way out of bounds.
Your arrogant, crass, thug-like behavior crops up at every turn. One only need to read your blog to see that.
You can’t seem to cover anything without getting into a potentially violent confrontation.
You seems to think that answer to any situation is to fire off your Canons at 10 frames per second as if that gives you immunity from being an asshole.
I use the word “photojournalist†in quotes bcause as far as I can tell you operate on the fringes and really haven’t done anything other than write for a few local websites.
Your obsession with this case is almost comical and borders on psychopathic.
After all we’re talking about an arrest for standing in the street blocking traffic; it’s not exactly the Pentagon Papers is it?
There wasn’t anything happening on that street that night that was worth going to jail for.
And using an expletive to describe a judge is not exactly professional behavior is it Carlos?
Do you always have to have the last ****ing word. Leave it alone. Remember, you’re still on probation.
You are a cockroach and boil on the ass of journalism in Miami and the sooner that responsible journalists in Miami disown you and repudiate your actions the better.
OWNED DUmbass. :lmao: :loser: :rotf:
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LOLZ!
A quote from his blog:
Quite frankly I’m appalled at all the support that “photojournalist†Carlos Miller has received from some quarters of the journalism community here in South Fla.
Even a casual reading of the facts surrounding the case shows that you were way out of bounds.
Your arrogant, crass, thug-like behavior crops up at every turn. One only need to read your blog to see that.
You can’t seem to cover anything without getting into a potentially violent confrontation.
You seems to think that answer to any situation is to fire off your Canons at 10 frames per second as if that gives you immunity from being an asshole.
I use the word “photojournalist†in quotes bcause as far as I can tell you operate on the fringes and really haven’t done anything other than write for a few local websites.
Your obsession with this case is almost comical and borders on psychopathic.
After all we’re talking about an arrest for standing in the street blocking traffic; it’s not exactly the Pentagon Papers is it?
There wasn’t anything happening on that street that night that was worth going to jail for.
And using an expletive to describe a judge is not exactly professional behavior is it Carlos?
Do you always have to have the last ****ing word. Leave it alone. Remember, you’re still on probation.
You are a cockroach and boil on the ass of journalism in Miami and the sooner that responsible journalists in Miami disown you and repudiate your actions the better.
OWNED DUmbass. :lmao: :loser: :rotf:
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Read comment #24. :naughty: :-)
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I made a comment as well, but the interweb seemed to have broken the moment I clicked submit, so I don't know if it went through.
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Read comment #24. :naughty: :-)
(http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-graphs-oh-no-you-didnt.gif)
:lmao:
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I claim post 26.
26 franksolich // Jun 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Oh my.
I guess there is justice in America.
Not much, but some.
You know, perhaps reading Amy Vanderbilt or Emily Post or Letitia Baldridge, and some Dale Carnegie, might help your professional career.
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Bah... I can't even open the blog anymore. It just bogs down everytime I click the link.
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http://carlosmiller.com/2007/05/10/calling-all-bloggers-journalists-activists-photography-buffs-music-lovers-and-spoken-word-aficionados/
The original whine....
Oh and BAHAHAHHAHAHAH snort choke HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH
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Moonbat seems to forget that when confronted by Mr. Police Officer, It goes along way to follow his orders rather then object and go off on a rant about "Your Rights".
The one poster was right,there was nothing that went on worth going to jail for. Its not like he caught O.J. in the act of catching the one armed man so it goes without saying ,follow the rules and all is cool. If you don't then expect to see yourself in big trouble.
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Ditto!!!!!
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Ditto!!!!!
and again....... :rotf: :rotf:
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-18-08 09:28 AM
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15. It gets WORSE....
Read Raging's blog entry here. The judge actually gave him four times the sentence the prosecutor asked for...then lectured him about his "attitude" of "non-remorse," and how he should visit Arlington National Cemetery to learn about what real heroes are like!!!
I don't use these terms lightly, but Judge Fernandez is a fine americanand a light unto the rest of the judicial system. May he sit on the bench forever.!....or until the DUmmies learn how to behave, whichever comes first.
Fixed
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Hi5 :-)
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I've got quite the list to H5 . . .
Flame
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Happy Fun Ball (again!)
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I think he just needs to:
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-18-08 09:28 AM
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15. It gets WORSE....
Read Raging's blog entry here. The judge actually gave him four times the sentence the prosecutor asked for
:rotf:
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I wonder how difficult it is to get a transcript of this trial ? I suspect there are details that have been "omitted"....
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sfexpat2000 (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-18-08 11:58 AM
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21. Not only that. He had photo evidence that he couldn't have been
where the "police" said he was.
LMAO "Photo evidence."
I don't suppose he would have only shown you dumbasses the photos he wanted you to see, would he?
Naaaaaah. :whatever:
rdenney (427 posts) Wed Jun-18-08 09:03 AM
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12. Can you pronounce: P-O-L-I-C-E S-T-A-T-E U-S-A ?
I knew you could.
Can you pronounce: L-I-A-R or H-Y-S-T-E-R-I-C-A-L D-R-A-M-A Q-U-E-E-N?
I knew you could.
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I can't believe you had to go through all this, Mr. Miller. After all, the police let me crawl all over accident scenes all the time in Pennsylvania and Maryland. They let me interfere with their duties, obstruct traffic, disobey lawful commands, create a safety hazard... and if I show them my Republican voter registration card, I can even take home a body part from a car wreck as a souvenier. It's so odd that Florida cops would arrest somebody for all that. Damn neocon Florida!
:greet: :cheersmate:
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Okay, that made my day. :-)
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4BMTIplLUc[/youtube]
That was done two weeks after the incident.
Seems our little DUmmie "photojournalist" likes to mix it up -
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFas_y27WTo[/youtube]
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I wonder how difficult it is to get a transcript of this trial ? I suspect there are details that have been "omitted"....
I live in Miami, so I probably could ask for City of Miami v. Carlos Miller.
*Red*
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Silly Carlos. He shouldn't (http://www.miaminights.com/a-blogger-s-trial-carlos-miller-vs-miami-pd-day-1-6086.phtml) talk (http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/case.asp?53B45DB683B493B4857983C681C685B85DA050B6578351B4508854C6547992B85D845820) so much.
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Oh my.
There's 41 comments there now.
http://carlosmiller.com/2008/06/18/its-finally-over-or-is-it/
The primitives finally showed up.
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ha !!!!
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And Conservatives are believers, not thinkers. They are nazi’s who believe whatever their government tells them to believe. Just wait until Martial Law is declared and the police start going door to door and routing you out of your homes. Wait until they withhold electricity, and food, and communications to control the masses. Do you think their gonna ask you if your Conservative or Liberal?
You Cons are stupid sheep! Martial Law will come before the next election. I’m not going fight it, I know it’s coming. But I’m going laugh at the frickin stupid conservatives who empower the governments plans and think they are special and that, through their belief, they’ll be spared. Wake up, only Isreal is special to this government!
It's the Joooooooooos!!!!
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Cops deserve the utmost respect. Aside from troops, they're the only entity, as a group, that'll take a bullet so you don't have to bleed....and they do it at a low pay as well. Are there a few bad eggs? Of course. I will not, however, sit there and talk shit about cops for simply doing their jobs or those few bad eggs. ...and I have been arrested, actually, a few times. :-) I know a lot of cops. A Columbia County Lieutenant lives right across the street from me. Nicest guy you'll meet. Break the law, and it doesn't matter who you are, he'll bust you. Isn't that why we, as a civilized populace, have cops? To prevent anarchy?
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Isn't that why we, as a civilized populace, have cops? To prevent anarchy?
Partly. If they would make it legal for the rest of us to just shoot the scumbags walking around commiting crimes, we wouldn't need as many cops though.
:-)
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Silly Carlos. He shouldn't (http://www.miaminights.com/a-blogger-s-trial-carlos-miller-vs-miami-pd-day-1-6086.phtml) talk (http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/case.asp?53B45DB683B493B4857983C681C685B85DA050B6578351B4508854C6547992B85D845820) so much.
Your second link didn't work. The court case # is M07010544. State case # is 132007MM0105440001XX.
Hrm... Apparently Carlos is also known as Harold. There's an "AKA" link. It also shows that he's white, not Hispanic. Hrm...
1 DISORDERLY CONDUCT MISDEMEANOR ACQUITTED BY COURT
2 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL MISDEMEANOR PROB W/COMM SERVICE
3 OBSTRT/DISGUISE PERS MISDEMEANOR NOLLE PROS
Dunno what that third one is about. Obstruction? No clue what "nolle pros" means.
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Silly Carlos. He shouldn't (http://www.miaminights.com/a-blogger-s-trial-carlos-miller-vs-miami-pd-day-1-6086.phtml) talk (http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/case.asp?53B45DB683B493B4857983C681C685B85DA050B6578351B4508854C6547992B85D845820) so much.
Your second link didn't work. The court case # is M07010544. State case # is 132007MM0105440001XX.
Hrm... Apparently Carlos is also known as Harold. There's an "AKA" link. It also shows that he's white, not Hispanic. Hrm...
1 DISORDERLY CONDUCT MISDEMEANOR ACQUITTED BY COURT
2 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL MISDEMEANOR PROB W/COMM SERVICE
3 OBSTRT/DISGUISE PERS MISDEMEANOR NOLLE PROS
Dunno what that third one is about. Obstruction? No clue what "nolle pros" means.
nolle prosequi
Latin for "we shall no longer prosecute." At trial, this is an entry made on the record by a prosecutor in a criminal case stating that he will no longer pursue the matter. An entry of nolle prosequi may be made at any time after charges are brought and before a verdict is returned or a plea entered. Essentially, it is an admission on the part of the prosecution that some aspect of its case against the defendant has fallen apart. Most of the time, prosecutors need a judge’s permission to “nol-pros†a case.
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'Nolle Prosequi' means the prosecutor chose not to pursue criminal charges. They basically dropped it.
He thounds like he hath a thpeech impediment. Or he just has a dick in his mouth.
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They finally convicted the bastard. Good. I remember when he was recounting the story on DU about being "hassled by 'The Man' yesterday".
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That is the idiot link that keeps on giving. :-)
Carlos needs to STFU. I think the judge should make his community service something to do with cleaning memorials or graveyards of service personnel. Yeah, that will never happen. But man I'd love it. Or he can come up here and sweep the sidewalks around the fallen police officer memorial. God, I really hate this prick.
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That is the idiot link that keeps on giving. :-)
Carlos needs to STFU. I think the judge should make his community service something to do with cleaning memorials or graveyards of service personnel. Yeah, that will never happen. But man I'd love it. Or he can come up here and sweep the sidewalks around the fallen police officer memorial. God, I really hate this prick.
I'm sure the judge would LOVE to see what is being written on Carlos/Harold's blog.
I wonder if it is a violation of his probation? Wouldn't it suck to get thrown in jail for a dumbass blog? :thatsright:
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Associating with criminals is a violation of ANY probation.
Looks to me, to be more than one criminal responding to that blog.
BC, I'm deferring to you to email said judge . . . :-) :hyper: :fuelfire:
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question here: Is this from him getting in the way of Miami police last year when they were questioning somebody? I think I remember that on CU and us making fun of him there, or was this for another incident?
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^yes. that's the one.
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question here: Is this from him getting in the way of Miami police last year when they were questioning somebody? I think I remember that on CU and us making fun of him there, or was this for another incident?
That's the one, but I would be amazed if he actually learned some kind of lesson here.
And judging by the posts on that thread and his blog, I'd say that there will most likely be a next time (and it could very well be worse).
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Silly Carlos. He shouldn't (http://www.miaminights.com/a-blogger-s-trial-carlos-miller-vs-miami-pd-day-1-6086.phtml) talk (http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/cjis/case.asp?53B45DB683B493B4857983C681C685B85DA050B6578351B4508854C6547992B85D845820) so much.
Your second link didn't work. The court case # is M07010544. State case # is 132007MM0105440001XX.
Hrm... Apparently Carlos is also known as Harold. There's an "AKA" link. It also shows that he's white, not Hispanic. Hrm...
1 DISORDERLY CONDUCT MISDEMEANOR ACQUITTED BY COURT
2 RESIST OFF W/O VIOL MISDEMEANOR PROB W/COMM SERVICE
3 OBSTRT/DISGUISE PERS MISDEMEANOR NOLLE PROS
Dunno what that third one is about. Obstruction? No clue what "nolle pros" means.
nolle prosequi
Latin for "we shall no longer prosecute." At trial, this is an entry made on the record by a prosecutor in a criminal case stating that he will no longer pursue the matter. An entry of nolle prosequi may be made at any time after charges are brought and before a verdict is returned or a plea entered. Essentially, it is an admission on the part of the prosecution that some aspect of its case against the defendant has fallen apart. Most of the time, prosecutors need a judge’s permission to “nol-pros†a case.
So maybe they got the conviction on the second charge and were happy with it.
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question here: Is this from him getting in the way of Miami police last year when they were questioning somebody? I think I remember that on CU and us making fun of him there, or was this for another incident?
That's the one, but I would be amazed if he actually learned some kind of lesson here.
And judging by the posts on that thread and his blog, I'd say that there will most likely be a next time (and it could very well be worse).
Maybe he'll forget to not drop the soap in the clink next time. LOL