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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tess Anderson on August 04, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
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alarimer (11,882 posts)
I cannot believe I am having a Twitter argument over small-town values.
All of this started when I replied to a tweet from Richard Dawkins. All I say was, "Sadly, in small-town America, curiosity and intelligence might as well be a mark of the beast." Admittedly over the top, but it has been my experience that curiosity especially is frowned upon in many smallish places, probably not just in America.
Dawkins retweeted this, which was nice (I'm stuck in Twitter jail with like 20 followers) and was retweeted and favorited a bunch of times. This made me feel internet famous for about five minutes.
And I tried to really have a reasonable conversation about this. I really do feel that some people elevate small-town values as superior to any other, when really, there is a deep negative side to those values. which was really my point all along.
Somehow this has devolved into a discussion of why living in small town is better than anywhere else. I just fail to see it. Unless that small town has an university associated with it, there is almost nothing to do in many small towns (or even smallish towns, like this one of 25,000 people). Young people, if they are ambitious at all, have to leave to find careers. Decent jobs just aren't there.
Here at least, it is an hour to a movie theater, decent shopping or museums (if you are into that), but at least that isn't very far away. But this small town is also damned expensive compared to the suburbs. Despite the fact that there are several grocery stores here (including the hated Walmart), groceries are expensive. I can save money by driving an hour to Trader Joe's, even counting the gas.
Rental housing is more expensive because there is less of it. I haven't tried to buy a house, mostly because I think it will be damned hard to unload it when I do finally move.
I think that old song "Harper Valley PTA" got it about right with regard to small towns. For everyone preaching small-town values, you'll find a mayor on the take or a police chief sleeping with his deputy's wife or some such.
And, what irks me most (and this may be particular to southern towns, although I don't really know) is that the first question people asked of me when I moved here is where I go to church and were appalled when I said I didn't.
No, I see nothing superior about living in a small town at all.
Move to Detroit then, you pathetic bitch.
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Suck a wet shiny turd out of my asshole bitch.
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Big deal. Some asshole atheist retweeted something you know nothing about.
I've gotten replies from Britt Hume, Brett Baer, Neal Boortz and had a post on Twitchy.
The most important small town values are central to the fact that very few liberals live in them, and crime rates are correspondingly low and higher graduation rates.
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All of this started when I replied to a tweet from Richard Dawkins(1). All I say was, "Sadly, in small-town America, curiosity and intelligence might as well be a mark of the beast."(2) Admittedly over the top, but it has been my experience that curiosity especially is frowned upon in many smallish places, probably not just in America.
Dawkins retweeted this(3), which was nice (I'm stuck in Twitter jail with like 20 followers) (4) and was retweeted and favorited a bunch of times (5). This made me feel internet famous for about five minutes.
And I tried to really have a reasonable conversation about this.
(1) Famous name dropping: CHECK
(2) Self-congratulatory witty remark on display: CHECK
(3) Esteemed by famous name previously dropped: CHECK
(4) Derision of the lesser others: CHECK
(also 4) The emotional burden of being rejected outside one's clique: CHECK
(5) self-congratulatory appeal to celebrity
Sympathy seeking from one's clique: CHECK
I dunno about the mark of the Beast but I know the mark of the Attention-Whore of Babylon when I see it.
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It must be heck for a DUmmy to live in a place where the locals dare to have opinions different their would be elite rulers.
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You tweeted a pretentious insult against roughly 70% of the country and whine about the result?
Stupid idiot.
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I would love to live in a small town, where everyone knows and cares for each other. Though I am sure Hollywood and romance novels, have romanticized it a bit..
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AmyLarimer1
A real looker. And as we can see, she's as smart as she is beautiful.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AmyLarimer1
A real looker. And as we can see, she's as smart as she is beautiful.
:vomit:
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I don't like her!! :loser:
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She lives in a small town in North Carolina, near the Virginia border.
I can see why she's out of place there. Like a turd in a punchbowl.
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She lives in a small town in North Carolina, near the Virginia border.
I can see why she's out of place there. Like a turd in a punchbowl.
I'd guess the tri-angle area....very liberal there because of the colleges....which she stated was a must have.
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Yes, because the "big city" values are SOOOOOOO much better, Amy.
Newsflash--there's a reason I left CA. There's a reason why someone had to DIE for me to go back.
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She lives in a small town in North Carolina, near the Virginia border.
I can see why she's out of place there. Like a turd in a punchbowl.
Sounds like heaven on earth to me.
What's "twitter jail?"
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There's a downside to any value system, you stupid bitch. This basic fact has allowed otherwise-unemployable gasbag bullshit artists to make a living as 'Ethicists' and 'Philosophers' for thousands of years.
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Yes, because the "big city" values are SOOOOOOO much better, Amy.
Newsflash--there's a reason I left CA. There's a reason why someone had to DIE for me to go back.
I love a small town Amy, reason being that after 4-5 generations your family finally gets accepted as a local.
The police know every thing about a family, ultra wealthy or gutter poor, they know who to go looking for when a crime is committed.
You know, or think you know the kids teachers, a shock when one of them goes astray.
When one trades with a business and becomes a loyal customer then the businesses will do a few favors for you down the line.
So you donate to some campaign for elected spot on the town council, tax write off-----instead of writing a $200.00 check to just one candidate write out 4 checks for $50.00 and send them to 4 different people of both party's. Some one has to win and in a small town every buck is appreciated.
Always register to vote as Independent, Never tell people you don't go to church, tell them you have not made up your mind yet.
Culture is big in small towns, most have some kind of museum of sorts and if not it is just a short ride to the next town that has both amateur and professional theater.. Old Sally STRUTHERS is due in a small town in Maine where she was acting in a small play house and was arrested for DWI. She will be back in September as she insists on a jury trial-----Off season, I wonder if she will stay with Barney Frank ?
Amy If I want culture and very reasonable entertainment, UNH is but a 20 minute drive and so much is FREE.
Small towns is where you can easily become part of the action of politics, one can also become anonymous and live as you want to without anyone telling you different. Don't get arrested, keep your yard clean, and stay out of city's of more then 40,000 and life can become anything you work to make it.
And one important thing to remember, NEVER judge a book by its cover. Some of the wealthiest people I ever met had shall we call them hobbies. I can ride up the coast and see some nasty scows that have $90,000 worth of radar and global equipment. Some of the skippers are just on vacation from very high stress jobs in the city. Summer vacation they don't get a haircut, shave, just lobster every day and nights hang out with the fishermen at some dive in town.
Only way to tell a local from a hobbyist is to check out their teeth, seriously. And this goes for under cover cops, no tats and perfect teeth.
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I really do feel that some people elevate small-town values as superior to any other, when really, there is a deep negative side to those values.
Detroit, Chicago,.......ummm, you were saying?
Despite the fact that there are several grocery stores here (including the hated Walmart), groceries are expensive.
Ethanol Subsidies, Fuel costs more than doubling under the lightbringer, ...ummm you were saying?
Young people, if they are ambitious at all, have to leave to find careers. Decent jobs just aren't there.
I found my part-time McJob........
in San Fran-ciscooooo.
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Rental housing is more expensive because there is less of it. I haven't tried to buy a house, mostly because I think it will be damned hard to unload it when I do finally move.
Waiting for some big city Section 8 subsidies, bay-bee!!!! :rotf: :rotf: You stupid bitch,.....
it's 3-4 times more expensive to live in one of your urban dystopias than out here in the sticks, but you get a museum and dysfunctional schools and insane taxes and.....
ummm, you were saying?
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Despite the fact that there are several grocery stores here (including the hated Walmart), groceries are expensive. I can save money by driving an hour to Trader Joe's, even counting the gas.
When I think of inexpensive shopping, Trader Joe's is not on the list. Especially if it is an hour away (2 hour round trip).
SgtSB was right...another thread started so a DUmmie can name drop and brag about how much better she is than the masses. (I would have said unwashed masses but that seems to be the "in" thing now for the DUmmies, not washing.)
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I love my small town.....everyone knows who the moonbats are.....and where they live.
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She lives in a small town in North Carolina, near the Virginia border.
I can see why she's out of place there. Like a turd in a punchbowl.
Well, I live in a small NC town where the median income is 6 times what she makes in a year. She should go to Asheville and hang out with the smelly hippies. The "females" there occasionally hold topless demonstrations.
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My guess is nasty Amy hasn't been laid in maybe forever.
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Small towns don't have huge cineplexes and famous museums and concert halls and extensive libraries because ...
... wait for it ...
... they're SMALL TOWNS.
It doesn't mean the people in them aren't intelligent, or incurious, or have no taste or appreciation for "cerebral" things.
People live in small towns because their roots are there. Their families and best friends are there. Crime is lower. Cost of living is lower. Schools are better than urban environments. There is a sense of community. Outdoor recreation is readily available. You can usually find a bigger town with whatever you want within an hour's drive and then retreat to your more comfortable small town. If someone prefers living in the big city, that's fine, but looking down your nose at those who choose a slower, quieter, more peaceful environment is just childish.
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Where I live is even smaller than "small town".
About a hundred years ago, a railroad passed close by, and a small town sat at the intersection of a country road and the railroad track. But then the Dust Bowl drought and Roosevelt's Depression dried up the little town along the railroad tracks.
The intersection near my house is still called "XXX Corner", but "XXX" hasn't been there since the end of World War II.
Do you know what I like best about living waaaay out away from the big city? Being waaaay out away from moonbats!
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The automobile has killed a lot of small southern towns. Small towns used to be a 1/2 day by horse wagon or less apart. People went into town on Saturday to take care of business or to buy a months worth of supplies/groceries. With the advent of the automobile, they could travel farther from home in a shorter length of time....any time they chose to or needed to. That meant the larger cities grew and the small town merchants went out of business and the small towns died.
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The automobile has killed a lot of small southern towns. Small towns used to be a 1/2 day by horse wagon or less apart. People went into town on Saturday to take care of business or to buy a months worth of supplies/groceries. With the advent of the automobile, they could travel farther from home in a shorter length of time....any time they chose to or needed to. That meant the larger cities grew and the small town merchants went out of business and the small towns died.
Not only Automobiles, but people's demand for personal wants. When the small mom and pop shops can't fill the demand, people have no choice, but to go farther afield
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AmyLarimer1
A real looker. And as we can see, she's as smart as she is beautiful.
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What is that, a guy?
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I spent some time in Bedford, VA the other day. Was a thriving railroad town till the interstate was built. Getting better there now that they put the D Day Memorial there but it will never be what it was.
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I know in some states ,like Vermont, it is a struggle to put in Walmarts or other boxed stores. They want to keep that small town, New England Charm. I don't blame them really. I love my job, but I see what they mean.
I wish we could build industry here in America, that could sell to Mom and Pop's store to keep them thriving...it would be a win, win situation for all.
I know small town s along the Lamprey River, like Newmarket, and Newfield are redoing the Old Mills, into residences. Which is great, but small businesses need to make a push as well..
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Frankly, I think Amy is a typical stupid, cynical, arrogant, insecure, leftist cow who has no idea what the hell she's talking about.
Amy, bless your little heart, one does not need a college nearby to stimulate creativity. We here in small towns and rural areas have real libraries and Internet connections. We have local politics which can be just as contentious as ones you'd find in places like big-time, smart city folk have. As hard as it might be to believe, we actually have to research things like zoning ordinances and the cost of buying a new state of the art ambulance.
Through our community center we can take classes from knitting to real estate investment, Mediterranean cooking to farm management (granted, they're not for credit like the big important schools where real intellectual pursuits take place).
Small businesses abound, from feed stores to florist shops to antique stores and everything in between. We have farmer's markets and swap meets. I don't know if you've ever run your own home business, but it takes a great deal of intelligence and curiosity to be successful. The majority of businesses here are small & locally owned, just what you guys are always screaming we need more of. We do have a Safeway and Walmart. Both have been here for years and our mom and pops weren't affected until 0bama starting sucking the life out of the economy. More will be closing with 0bamacare.
Rich leftists love coming here for a weekend's worth of "small town values". After your weekend is done, you'll run back to your elitist friends and show them the "lovely little vase" you got, never imagining you probably paid too much for it. We're quite aware the "status" of buying something from a quaint little town usually trumps common sense. It's why I can sell free range, organic brown eggs for double what they'd cost in a store.
We've got a number of art galleries (not the big important ones you have, of course) and very talented local artists: painters, jewelry makers, wood carvers, weavers, sculpturers. The last Friday of the month we have an art walk (think how eco-friendly that is). We even have cafes with free wifi...imagnine that here in the sticks! We have a weekly summer music series in the park that offers everything from blue grass to chamber music. We have a local theater company, a race track (demonlition derby is popular here in Hicksville), a rodeo (animal cruelty, I know...we actually had some city folk standing outside the gate this year protesting...we all laughed on the way in) and a small airport with mostly antique planes.
And summers are the time we really reconnect! We have garden tours, where residents can show off their gardens and a (chicken) coop tour every spring or summer. This area grew up around mining, you can still pan for gold...there are local businesses who would be more than happy to sell you equipment so you can try it yourself, when you're slumming it with us hicks. Every year we have Bohemia Mining Days...it's a pretty big one around here. The General was filmed here so we have a Charlie Chaplin Festival each year. For the more low brow among us, the big Animal House parade was filmed here so there's a yearly toga party, if art galleries, chamber music and French sandwich shops with free wi-fi aren't your cup of tea.
Best one of the bunch, though, is the "best tomato" contest. Local gardeners and farmers bring their best for a tasting contest. Heirloom varieties, non GMO, even! It's kind of the end of season blow out. All the nurseries (even big ones like Log House Plants and Territorial Seed...they're local) bring all their plants that didn't sell during the season and we get them for pennies. These are the ones that are shipped to YOUR local nurseries where you have to pay triple what I do even without end of season sales.
What you WON'T see here is the same kind of arrogant, elitism you exhibit. Plenty of times we get people from the city and suburbs who want a couple of chickens for their backyard. Most have no idea what the hell to do. Never once have I laughed at or stuck my nose up in the air because of any questions you guys asked or things I think should be common sense. I'm thrilled when someone else wants to learn about something that gives me such joy! Of course, we don't speed around old people trying to cross the street, yelling profanities at them or keep walking by when someone drops a bag of groceries. And there's much less crime, partly because of those "small town values" you find so distasteful. Well, and most of us are armed, so there's that.
Oh, by the way, stereotypes just scream ignorance.
Cindie
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Cindie, sounds like a great place to live!!! Though I will be living in a University town, I will still be back in the hicks!! on a farm no less!! Should I buy me some overalls?? :wink:
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Frankly, I think Amy is a typical stupid, cynical, arrogant, insecure, leftist cow who has no idea what the hell she's talking about.
Amy, bless your little heart, one does not need a college nearby to stimulate creativity. We here in small towns and rural areas have real libraries and Internet connections. We have local politics which can be just as contentious as ones you'd find in places like big-time, smart city folk have. As hard as it might be to believe, we actually have to research things like zoning ordinances and the cost of buying a new state of the art ambulance.
Through our community center we can take classes from knitting to real estate investment, Mediterranean cooking to farm management (granted, they're not for credit like the big important schools where real intellectual pursuits take place).
Small businesses abound, from feed stores to florist shops to antique stores and everything in between. We have farmer's markets and swap meets. I don't know if you've ever run your own home business, but it takes a great deal of intelligence and curiosity to be successful. The majority of businesses here are small & locally owned, just what you guys are always screaming we need more of. We do have a Safeway and Walmart. Both have been here for years and our mom and pops weren't affected until 0bama starting sucking the life out of the economy. More will be closing with 0bamacare.
Rich leftists love coming here for a weekend's worth of "small town values". After your weekend is done, you'll run back to your elitist friends and show them the "lovely little vase" you got, never imagining you probably paid too much for it. We're quite aware the "status" of buying something from a quaint little town usually trumps common sense. It's why I can sell free range, organic brown eggs for double what they'd cost in a store.
We've got a number of art galleries (not the big important ones you have, of course) and very talented local artists: painters, jewelry makers, wood carvers, weavers, sculpturers. The last Friday of the month we have an art walk (think how eco-friendly that is). We even have cafes with free wifi...imagnine that here in the sticks! We have a weekly summer music series in the park that offers everything from blue grass to chamber music. We have a local theater company, a race track (demonlition derby is popular here in Hicksville), a rodeo (animal cruelty, I know...we actually had some city folk standing outside the gate this year protesting...we all laughed on the way in) and a small airport with mostly antique planes.
And summers are the time we really reconnect! We have garden tours, where residents can show off their gardens and a (chicken) coop tour every spring or summer. This area grew up around mining, you can still pan for gold...there are local businesses who would be more than happy to sell you equipment so you can try it yourself, when you're slumming it with us hicks. Every year we have Bohemia Mining Days...it's a pretty big one around here. The General was filmed here so we have a Charlie Chaplin Festival each year. For the more low brow among us, the big Animal House parade was filmed here so there's a yearly toga party, if art galleries, chamber music and French sandwich shops with free wi-fi aren't your cup of tea.
Best one of the bunch, though, is the "best tomato" contest. Local gardeners and farmers bring their best for a tasting contest. Heirloom varieties, non GMO, even! It's kind of the end of season blow out. All the nurseries (even big ones like Log House Plants and Territorial Seed...they're local) bring all their plants that didn't sell during the season and we get them for pennies. These are the ones that are shipped to YOUR local nurseries where you have to pay triple what I do even without end of season sales.
What you WON'T see here is the same kind of arrogant, elitism you exhibit. Plenty of times we get people from the city and suburbs who want a couple of chickens for their backyard. Most have no idea what the hell to do. Never once have I laughed at or stuck my nose up in the air because of any questions you guys asked or things I think should be common sense. I'm thrilled when someone else wants to learn about something that gives me such joy! Of course, we don't speed around old people trying to cross the street, yelling profanities at them or keep walking by when someone drops a bag of groceries. And there's much less crime, partly because of those "small town values" you find so distasteful. Well, and most of us are armed, so there's that.
Oh, by the way, stereotypes just scream ignorance.
Cindie
I had to drive through Woodstock NY today. Lots of tiny little shops. Lots of signs that said "organic" and "free range." Not too many people--it's a Tuesday. But, lots of overpriced stuff in those shops, no doubt.
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Cindie, sounds like a great place to live!!! Though I will be living in a University town, I will still be back in the hicks!! on a farm no less!! Should I buy me some overalls?? :wink:
University towns aren't bad, depending on where they are. U of O in Eugene is a liberal cesspool but Oregon State is an Ag school, so while the faculty is mostly leftists (it's the school where Queen Michelle's brother coaches basketball) and the students are more conservative. It's a picture post card college town, Eugene, not so much!
Cindie
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AmyLarimer1
A real looker. And as we can see, she's as smart as she is beautiful.
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She/ he/it is in your AO
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Rich leftists love coming here for a weekend's worth of "small town values". After your weekend is done, you'll run back to your elitist friends and show them the "lovely little vase" you got, never imagining you probably paid too much for it. We're quite aware the "status" of buying something from a quaint little town usually trumps common sense. It's why I can sell free range, organic brown eggs for double what they'd cost in a store.
You've just described virtually every smaller town in New England. Flatlanders coming up for "quaint" getaways who pay too much for pretty much everything. "Antique" stores which are little more than overpriced garage sales so some NYC yenta can pay 3-4X the worth for a mass-produced vase that is 50 years old, at most.
A personal experience was about a year ago when Scoobie and I did a weekend in Vermont (B&B just outside Woodstock.) We stopped by a little grocery with "local" and "organic" foods. Sorry, I don't care how many labels you put on it, I'm not paying $9/lb for hamburger. EVER. The rest of the store was pretty much the same way. The rest of the shops in town were along the same lines as well. Reminds me of when I was a kid and knowing the locals who worked in the ski resort towns in Colorado--had to live 20 miles out of town to commute to a minimum wage job because the tourists drove the price of everything there out of sight.
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She/ he/it is in your AO
In the same state, yes. But she claims to be near the VA-NC border about 40 miles from the coast which would put her a minimum of 5 hours driving time from me. I wish she lived about 100 miles due east of where she currently lives.
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In the same state, yes. But she claims to be near the VA-NC border about 40 miles from the coast which would put her a minimum of 5 hours driving time from me. I wish she lived about 100 miles due east of where she currently lives.
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This thread caused me to get curious so I ran down her info, I don't know if it would be a surprise or not.
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This thread caused me to get curious so I ran down her info, I don't know if it would be a surprise or not.
Do you plan on sharing?
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Do you plan on sharing?
I could but the forum rules forbid posting information that is not posted by the DUmmie in question on the Island.
Edit: I'm also a little sketchy about using the PM system to send it.
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In the same state, yes. But she claims to be near the VA-NC border about 40 miles from the coast which would put her a minimum of 5 hours driving time from me. I wish she lived about 100 miles due east of where she currently lives.
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Ugg! That means she is close to me.
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You've just described virtually every smaller town in New England. Flatlanders coming up for "quaint" getaways who pay too much for pretty much everything. "Antique" stores which are little more than overpriced garage sales so some NYC yenta can pay 3-4X the worth for a mass-produced vase that is 50 years old, at most.
A personal experience was about a year ago when Scoobie and I did a weekend in Vermont (B&B just outside Woodstock.) We stopped by a little grocery with "local" and "organic" foods. Sorry, I don't care how many labels you put on it, I'm not paying $9/lb for hamburger. EVER. The rest of the store was pretty much the same way. The rest of the shops in town were along the same lines as well. Reminds me of when I was a kid and knowing the locals who worked in the ski resort towns in Colorado--had to live 20 miles out of town to commute to a minimum wage job because the tourists drove the price of everything there out of sight.
Nothing of value found in attics or cellars are sold in the antique stores. Yankees are not stupid, they check on the value of Everything, by value I mean what someone else is willing to pay for an item.
Just a short ride by train to Boston to get a valuation for items and placed on a buyers list--like Ebay for the serious collectors. Big time collectables are those with significance to the Masons from the 1940 and back to the 1700. I found a ceremonial dagger in a sheep skin cover that was hand beaded with the symbols I recognised from family treasures and wanted to buy it and give it to my father.
Soon as I picked it up one of the auctioneers workers came over and told me that the item was spoken for, A scam that auctioneers pull on the clients that says in small print the Auctioneer has dibs on stuff so they can buy at 10 cents on the dollar anything valuable they over looked.
Yankees have been known to be tricksters and laugh their way to the bank over the tourists that will come in here all snobby and think they are going to find a valuable piece that the ignorant have no idea of the value and make a killing.
This gives rise to the old mud flats or lake procedure. One buys a old table or chairs cheap, brings it home and removes all nails and screws. Dig a hole in the mud flats at low tide and dump it in.
Attach rope with a capped Clorox bottle so as to mark the spot when the tide comes in/ to locate it in a lake. Get some good chunks of the same wood the item is made of and bag them in a mesh bag and bury them with the item.
Patience here, for the next 8-9 months scourer all auctions for old time drapes, velvet if possible, it really does not matter if they are in good condition or bad.
Depending on the money one will pay for the antique is to time the retrieval of said item. Dig the sucker up, scrape off the mud etc, do not wash down with water, just put it to dry under fans in a barn, not outside in the sun. Once really dry one can carefully remove any mud then is the time to get out the blocks of wood well dried also. Here is where the old tools come in, cut off small chunks with old time tools and resemble the item using pegs with no metal hardware.
OK the item looks like shit, but, reality is the worse it looks the more expensive it becomes. Some antique furniture looses $1000 in value if re done, re lacquered or repaired.
Pine pitch is great to glue in the draws the old velvet from the estate sales, let it set for a few months and then send it off to be auctioned off, this type of antiquing can and does fool even the most professional appraisers.
Anyone with a wood working shop can reproduce furniture from 200 years ago and go bury it in the mud. All one needs is a bunch or old time tools some shelack perhaps 20 years old some coffee grounds and patience and the tourist go away happy thinking they have pulled the wool over dumb Yankees and the Yankees wave by-by to the experts.
South west I learned there was not that much a difference in the Yankee then the Westerners.
I watched in disbelief as some took rocks, just plain old rocks and dipped them in battery acid. Instant turquoise, reason I will not buy turquoise that is blue. Has to greenish yellow or no sale.
Mid west those that get taken buying cattle that are ill or sold land with no water rights.
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IMHO, leftists always put down what they do not like because of their deep seated insecurity. This is also the reason they are so intolerant of other view points and opinions. The DUmp is the epitome of this. There can be no challenging of their idiocy for their glass houses are built on sand.
This woman is clearly ugly and has most likely been insecure her entire life because of it. Rather than be strong willed she is the least of will and flows with what the other ugly people do. She has to have a station given to her because she cannot make her own. It is kind of sad but shows a definite lack of character. IOW, she is a leftist through and through.
One final question to this weak minded person. Why the hell do you not move back to a blue shithole city? Quit your bitching and vote with your feet instead of whining.
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One reason moonbats don't like small towns is.....they become known and it's hard to play the sympathy card then.
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Ugg! That means she is close to me.
You're so lucky. :-)
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You're so lucky. :-)
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Wait a damn minute, that puts her in my AO.
Never mind, that's April Razz AO.