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Title: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: franksolich on June 18, 2008, 12:18:45 PM
WASHINGTON - With gasoline topping $4 a gallon, President Bush urged Congress on Wednesday to lift its long-standing ban on offshore oil and gas drilling, saying the United States needs to increase its energy production. Democrats quickly rejected the idea.

"There is no excuse for delay," the president said in a statement in the Rose Garden. With the presidential election just months away, Bush made a pointed attack on Democrats, accusing them of obstructing his energy proposals and blaming them for high gasoline costs. His proposal echoed a call by Republican presidential candidate John McCain to open the Continental Shelf for exploration

"Families across the country are looking to Washington for a response," Bush said.

Congressional Democrats were quick to reject the push for lifting the drilling moratorium, saying oil companies already have 68 million acres offshore waters under lease that are not being developed.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Bush's proposals "another page from (an)... energy policy that was literally written by the oil industry — give away more public resources."

Sen. Barack Obama, the Democrats' presumptive presidential nominee, rejected lifting the drilling moratorium that has been supported by a succession of presidents for nearly two decades.

"This is not something that's going to give consumers short-term relief and it is not a long-term solution to our problems with fossil fuels generally and oil in particular," said Obama. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, lumping Bush with McCain, accused them of staging a "cynical campaign ploy" that won't help lower energy prices.

"Despite what President Bush, John McCain and their friends in the oil industry claim, we cannot drill our way out of this problem," Reid said. "The math is simple: America has just three percent of the world's oil reserves, but Americans use a quarter of its oil."

Bush said offshore drilling could yield up to 18 billion barrels of oil over time, although it would take years for production to start. Bush also said offshore drilling would take pressure off prices over time.

There are two prohibitions on offshore drilling, one imposed by Congress and another by executive order signed by Bush's father in 1990. Bush's brother, Jeb, fiercely opposed offshore drilling when he was governor of Florida. What the president now proposes would rescind his father's decision — but the president took the position that Congress has to act first and then he would follow behind.

Asked why Bush doesn't act first and lift the ban, Keith Hennessey, the director of the president's economic council, said: "He thinks that probably the most productive way to work with this Congress is to try to do it in tandem."

Before Bush spoke, the House Appropriations Committee postponed a vote it had scheduled for Wednesday on legislation doing the opposite of what the president asked — extending Congress' ban on offshore drilling. Lawmakers said they wanted to focus on a disaster relief bill for the battered Midwest.

Bush also proposed opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for drilling, lifting restrictions on oil shale leasing in the Green River Basin of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming and easing the regulatory process to expand oil refining capacity.

With Americans deeply pessimistic about the economy, Bush tried to put on the onus on Congress. He acknowledged that his new proposals would take years to have a full effect, hardly the type of news that will help drivers at the gas stations now. The White House says no quick fix exists.

Still, Bush said Congress was obstructing progress — and directly contributing to consumers' pain at the pump.

"I know the Democratic leaders have opposed some of these policies in the past," Bush said. "Now that their opposition has helped drive gas prices to record levels, I ask them to reconsider their positions."

Bush said that if congressional leaders head home for their July 4 recess without taking action, they will need to explain why "$4 a gallon gasoline is not enough incentive for them to act. And Americans will rightly ask how high gas prices have to rise before the Democratic-controlled Congress will do something about it."

Bush said restrictions on offshore drilling have become "outdated and counterproductive."

In a nod to the environmental arguments against drilling, Bush said technology has come a long way. These days, he said, oil exploration off the coastline can be done in a way that "is out of sight, protects coral reefs and habitats, and protects against oil spills."

Congressional Democrats, joined by some GOP lawmakers from coastal states, have opposed lifting the prohibition that has barred energy companies from waters along both the East and West coasts and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico for 27 years.

On Monday, McCain made lifting the federal ban on offshore oil and gas development a key part of his energy plan. McCain said states should be allowed to pursue energy exploration in waters near their coasts and get some of the royalty revenue.

Obama retorted that the Arizona senator had flip-flopped on that issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080618/ap_on_go_pr_wh/offshore_oil
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Zafod Beeblebrox on June 18, 2008, 01:09:42 PM
got us by the balls.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: thundley4 on June 18, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
These frelling idiots. Their excuse for not allowing more drilling, is that it will take to long for it to effect prices. Hell, if they thought about this ten years ago, they couldn't use that excuse.  10 years from now, when gas is $10/gal, they'll trot out the same excuse.

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Rebel on June 18, 2008, 01:24:50 PM
Oil is a traded commodity and a lot of the value of a commodity is based on speculation. Let'em open up drilling and see how those numbers change. There is no ****ING reason we should not be drilling for our own f'n oil.  :censored:
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: DixieBelle on June 18, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. They won't be happy until they have driven us into the ground. And then they will blame it on the conservatives.

Bush and co. need to come out swinging. Everyday. If they are going to demonize him, smear his presidency, then dammit, the man needs to go down fighting. I'm sorry, but it's time to pull out the Texas-sized brass ones and tell these congress f*cks what day of the week it is. Grrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Jim on June 18, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
Oil is a traded commodity and a lot of the value of a commodity is based on speculation. Let'em open up drilling and see how those numbers change. There is no ******* reason we should not be drilling for our own f'n oil.  :censored:


actually there is but that reason set sail some time ago.

when McC was against drilling, oil was $20-30 a barrel and it cost more to drill it here than in the ME.  thats all changed now that its over $100 (ok, WELL over).

and just see what heppens when Congress gives it the thumbs up.  those same speculators KNOW that the local oil business will jump as do the OPEC guys and every other producer who is selling to us now.  they WANT our business, they will try to keep it.  thats where it will get hard to maintain resolve.  the Brasilian discoveries did not make a great difference as they now that BRasil cannot act quickly even if they wish to.

ignore the lefty BS, anyone who actually knows about this business will tell you that it will move the price down.  they might argue how much but not the basic down.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: djones520 on June 18, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
Oil is a traded commodity and a lot of the value of a commodity is based on speculation. Let'em open up drilling and see how those numbers change. There is no ****ING reason we should not be drilling for our own f'n oil.  :censored:

THINK OF THE LOBSTERS MAN!!!!!
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Jim on June 18, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
Oil is a traded commodity and a lot of the value of a commodity is based on speculation. Let'em open up drilling and see how those numbers change. There is no ******* reason we should not be drilling for our own f'n oil.  :censored:

THINK OF THE LOBSTERS MAN!!!!!




um.... lobster !    now I'm hungry !
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: miskie on June 18, 2008, 01:58:41 PM
Oil is a traded commodity and a lot of the value of a commodity is based on speculation. Let'em open up drilling and see how those numbers change. There is no ******* reason we should not be drilling for our own f'n oil.  :censored:

It doesn't even have to go that far. Once there is a threat of American drills going into action, the OPEC nations will increase output to make the threat go away.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: RobJohnson on June 18, 2008, 02:14:03 PM
I am behind the President on this.

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Splashdown on June 18, 2008, 02:30:57 PM
Politically, I'm thrilled that Pelosi is such a moron.

However, not drilling spells bad news for the economy.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Wineslob on June 18, 2008, 02:32:10 PM
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called Bush's proposals "another page from (an)... energy policy that was literally written by the oil industry — give away more public resources."

*in my best Dan Akroyd voice*

Nancy, you ignorant slut, who else is going to get to, and process OUR oil?

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: jinxmchue on June 18, 2008, 02:34:23 PM
Politically, I'm thrilled that Pelosi is such a moron.

Unfortunately, the people who keep voting her into office are also morons.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Jim on June 18, 2008, 02:38:41 PM
Politically, I'm thrilled that Pelosi is such a moron.

However, not drilling spells bad news for the economy.



whats bad for America is good for the donkeys
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: TheSarge on June 18, 2008, 02:57:14 PM
Democrats creating a self fulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Airwolf on June 18, 2008, 03:16:02 PM
I want to take this time to thank the Democrats for thier vision of our country. Their ability to lead us on a path that will not only ensure our future but everyone around the world. This is an historic day in the US and we alll should take this moment to show our true appreciation  and for  giving me something to POOOP ONNNNNNNNNNN

(http://www.mavericktimes.com/triumph.jpg)


Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Chris_ on June 18, 2008, 05:41:07 PM
There is a reason that energy prices are skyrocketing in this country.

Democrats have blocked the development of new sources of petroleum.
Democrats have blocked drilling in ANWR.
Democrats have blocked drilling off the coast of Florida.
Democrats have blocked drilling off of the east coast.
Democrats have blocked drilling off of the west coast.
Democrats have blocked drilling off the Alaskan coast.
Democrats have blocked building oil refineries.
Democrats have blocked clean nuclear energy production.
Democrats have blocked clean coal production.

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Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Rebel on June 18, 2008, 06:00:43 PM
I was going to post this elsewhere until I saw the "Office of Larry Craig" at the bottom. Even though it's still true, I'm sure I'd catch hell for that.  :lmao:

I'm gonna have to crop that shit out.  :-)
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Chris_ on June 18, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
:rofl:
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: DixieBelle on June 18, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
^LOL! I totally didn't see that until you pointed it out. Yeah, crop tool!
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Crazy Horse on June 18, 2008, 08:45:03 PM
With all of this ..............................we will be saying President.....CINC Obama.............the sales pitch is just that good.

Hell my own Senator Dole opposes oil exploration because the damn democrats in the state
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Schadenfreude on June 18, 2008, 08:54:50 PM
The progressives (yes I said it with a sneer) are going to force us into the ****ing stone age.

Oh I am PISSED.  :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 18, 2008, 09:34:37 PM
Democrats creating a self fulfilling prophecy.

the unsettling truth of the matter is that $5 a gallon gas plays right into their political agenda.  they
are probably dancing in the streets over this.  I shudder to think what a hypothetical president obama,
working with speaker pelosi and majority leader reid, will do with this in 2009.

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: rich_t on June 18, 2008, 09:55:31 PM
Isn't China going to begin slant drilling off the coast of Cuba into the oil reserves off the coast of Florida?

Way to go asshat Congress.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Rebel on June 18, 2008, 10:43:33 PM
The progressives (yes I said it with a sneer) are going to force us into the ****ing stone age.

No, they're going to force us into the many, many flying bullets age.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Rebel on June 18, 2008, 10:50:16 PM
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=302624

Croppage is great.  :-)
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 18, 2008, 10:51:35 PM
Isn't China going to begin slant drilling off the coast of Cuba into the oil reserves off the coast of Florida?

Why to go asshat Congress.

it appears that while there are plans to do so, it isn't happening right now (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/12/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4177282.shtml).  this story has become a bit of a controversy for the liberals.

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Lacarnut on June 18, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
Democrats creating a self fulfilling prophecy.

This issue is liable to come back and bite the Democratic Congressional critters in the ass in November.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Airwolf on June 19, 2008, 03:44:56 PM
Well we can forget about a war for oil. It'll be a war for survival as long as we have the fuel for it.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Peter3_1 on June 21, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
The dems are the only people I know who can blather claiming the moral high ground while they while trying to force our childten to freeze and starve in the dark. 
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 12:19:09 PM
This is great news for McCain and all Republicans.

"Drill Here Drill Now" is getting some serious legs.  hussien's assertion that drilling would only change oil prices a few pennies defies reason and facts.  Even HIS stupid minions know that isn't so.

Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: DixieBelle on June 21, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
Ooobama's solution is to decrease demand, not supply. That tells me all I need to know.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
Ooobama's solution is to decrease demand, not supply. That tells me all I need to know.

And who was the last President (I capitalize the position, not the man) who told us to lower our expectations? 
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: DixieBelle on June 21, 2008, 01:26:23 PM
did it involve sweaters?
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 01:56:25 PM
did it involve sweaters?
Gotta stay warm somehow...
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: Airwolf on June 21, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
I'm with glenn Beck on this. I don't care how many polar bears we have to drill through to get the oil,just drill for it already.
Title: Re: Democrats reject overturning ban on offshore oil drilling
Post by: NHSparky on June 21, 2008, 09:46:13 PM
Ooobama's solution is to decrease demand, not supply. That tells me all I need to know.

And who was the last President (I capitalize the position, not the man) who told us to lower our expectations? 

I seem to recall the word "malaise" being bandied about quite a bit.

That and three-block long gas lines.

But then again, I wasn't old enough to drive yet.  Almost, but not quite.