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Title: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Freeper on July 30, 2013, 03:47:42 PM
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Star Member dixiegrrrrl (32,293 posts)

Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say


 
Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.
The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”.
The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born.

The journal’s editor, Prof Julian Savulescu, director of the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics, said the article's authors had received death threats since publishing the article. He said those who made abusive and threatening posts about the study were “fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.


Link to rest of story and to Journal article itself:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9113394/Killing-babies-no-different-from-abortion-experts-say.html

This feels like a false flag story, to me.Note the use of "liberal society" being painted as supporting infanticide.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023374262

Why should the woman's right to choose end when the feet clear the vagina?

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Star Member Just Saying (1,359 posts)
10. Thank you

Wow pretty disgusting stuff.

How is it any different than doing it inside the womb?
You think that inside the womb it is fine and dandy, and a sacred right, yet outside the womb it is all of a sudden disgusting.

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GlashFordan (136 posts)
16. Yes, they commonly make the argument

That if you allow an elective 3rd trimester abortion then there is no substantive difference from murdering a newborn infant.

There is no difference, except for the location of the blob of cells.

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Star Member BainsBane (14,086 posts)
17. What crap

First off, the telegraph is a RW rag. I don't believe a world of this.

You have to get up pretty early in the afternoon to fool jugs.

Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: diesel driver on July 30, 2013, 04:02:45 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023374262

You have to get up pretty early in the afternoon to fool jugs.



You can get up 2 minutes before midnight and still fool jugs.   :hammer:

Too bad her brains aren't as developed as her...sweater.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Freeper on July 30, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
You can get up 2 minutes before midnight and still fool jugs.   :hammer:

Too bad her brains aren't as developed as her...sweater.   :lmao:

That was kind of my point.  :-)
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Gratiot on July 30, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
:banghead:

Tis a shame how disturbed much of society is, that something like this would even seriously be pondered or discussed.  Yet alone, that we actively engage in the murder of children in utero.  :(
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 30, 2013, 04:33:20 PM
 â€œfanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society”.....yeah, well I'm also a gun hugging terrorist too......I don't thump my bible, just DUmmie heads.

Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 30, 2013, 05:06:38 PM
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GlashFordan (136 posts)
16. Yes, they commonly make the argument

That if you allow an elective 3rd trimester abortion then there is no substantive difference from murdering a newborn infant.

And the rebuttal is...???
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Splashdown on July 30, 2013, 05:46:38 PM
And the rebuttal is...???

You bunch of reich-wing morans. It's a baby when we SAY it's a baby. It's a clump of cells otherwise.

Duh.


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Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Tucker on July 30, 2013, 06:44:53 PM
I can think of 206,456 DUmmies that I wouldn't mind if abortion were retroactively allowed.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: obumazombie on July 30, 2013, 07:53:37 PM
I can think of 206,456 DUmmies that I wouldn't mind if abortion were retroactively allowed.
I have considered a career as a retroactive abortionist. It's the next logical step after Tiller the baby killer. It's also a basic human right.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Delmar on July 30, 2013, 09:13:07 PM
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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)Tue Jul 30, 2013, 04:35 PM
 SheilaT (12,809 posts)
14. Read the book

Unwind by Neal Shusterman. It's a YA, but don't let that put you off. Sometime in the future an actual war between pro-life and pro-choice armies is settled by passing a "Bill of Life". It says "human life may not be touched from the moment of conception until the child reaches the age of thirteen. However, between the ages of thirteen ad eighteen, a parent may choose to retroactively "abort" a child." The process in which a child is retroactively aborted is called "unwinding".

A spooky and fascinating read.

Democrat underground hardest hit.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: jukin on July 30, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Personally, I think this is great. I can now get to perform some 300 trimester abortions.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 31, 2013, 04:33:08 AM
Democrat underground hardest hit.

If the reference is to emotional age, the DUmp would be cleaned out today.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: txradioguy on July 31, 2013, 04:35:48 AM
Democrats the murder of unborn babies, post crap like the OP in this thread...and yet have the unmitigated GALL to call people like BSS, myself and other veterans here "baby killers"?


 :whatever:
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: Aristotelian on July 31, 2013, 05:09:52 AM
Notice that none of them attempts to refute the argument.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 31, 2013, 04:42:39 PM
Democrats the murder of unborn babies, post crap like the OP in this thread...and yet have the unmitigated GALL to call people like BSS, myself and other veterans here "baby killers"?


 :whatever:

Tx, it's times like this when one has to consider the source of the comments--the DUmp.

Then, distribute the source of the comments far and wide, saying, "This is representative of the Democrat Party of today."  Eventually, the dam will break.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: jukin on July 31, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Tx, it's times like this when one has to consider the source of the comments--the DUmp.

Then, distribute the source of the comments far and wide, saying, "This is representative of the Democrat Party of today."  Eventually, the dam will break.

It truly is representative of the evil democrat party. The leadership of the evil democrat party thinks exactly the same, they are just cunning enough not to say it in public. That. Is. The. Only. Difference.
Title: Re: Killing babies no different from abortion, experts say
Post by: thundley4 on July 31, 2013, 05:00:41 PM
Tx, it's times like this when one has to consider the source of the comments--the DUmp.

Then, distribute the source of the comments far and wide, saying, "This is representative of the Democrat Party of today."  Eventually, the dam will break.

I send links to some of the more reprehensible stuff from DU out on Twitter and Facebook.  I just wish more people followed me to see it.