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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Splashdown on July 28, 2013, 05:58:13 PM
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linky (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023356609)
But don't worry, there'll be plenty a-taxing going on...
gulliver (8,714 posts)
Eliminate the Death Tax
Just tax the estates of the wealthy while they are still living. And tax them a lot more than the current death-triggered estate tax. Maybe give them a 20% bonus credit for paying the tax with repatriated funds or funds from the sale of foreign assets. That way no one could argue that the tax encouraged disinvestment in U.S. assets.
This idea would let Dems say we eliminated the Death Tax. Indeed, if a person were taxed at a higher level of net worth than they had at their death, we could refund the overage. It would be a Death Refund.
I also have a Balanced Budget Amendment. Any deficit that Congress fails to cover in a given fiscal year would automatically be paid by an excise tax on the net worth of the wealthy. It would be a win-win. Future generations would not be saddled with debt, and the wealthy would finally have "certainty" about the government's finances. We might even have fewer wars.
"Journo" nadin, on the job as always, smells a rat...
nadinbrzezinski (124,014 posts)
6. Hmmm...I find it curious you chose to use a Karl rove
Inspired framing...in fact it is not inspired...it is suggested by rove, after testing by Frank Luntz.
Hmmm
Curiouser and curiouser
But THIS gem is the whole reason I brought this over...
hughee99 (10,401 posts)
36. A constitutional amendment that lets congress spend the wealthy's money as if it's government money?
Sounds like a good idea.
I think the reason repukes and Democrats disagree so much on taxes it because repukes have this idea that the money they work for and take home is THEIR money, and when they pay taxes, they're giving THEIR money to the government. They need to look at it as all money they make, the product of their labor, belongs to the GOVERNMENT and what they take home is what the government chooses to let them keep. Their assets, their personal property, they all really belong to the government. The government can take those things (or force them to sell them) whenever they like, if they need the money, or even if they don't. We don't need to address the issue of wasteful government spending, what we really need to fix is problem of some people who have too much money.
Once we address the issue of people having too much money and the we gradually lower what we consider "wealthy" year after year as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
Please tell me this is a mole, that nobody really thinks like this...
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:popcorn:
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hughee99 (10,401 posts)
36. A constitutional amendment that lets congress spend the wealthy's money as if it's government money?
Sounds like a good idea.
I think the reason repukes and Democrats disagree so much on taxes it because repukes have this idea that the money they work for and take home is THEIR money, and when they pay taxes, they're giving THEIR money to the government. They need to look at it as all money they make, the product of their labor, belongs to the GOVERNMENT and what they take home is what the government chooses to let them keep. Their assets, their personal property, they all really belong to the government. The government can take those things (or force them to sell them) whenever they like, if they need the money, or even if they don't. We don't need to address the issue of wasteful government spending, what we really need to fix is problem of some people who have too much money.
Once we address the issue of people having too much money and the we gradually lower what we consider "wealthy" year after year as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
Fine dummie. Let's start by taking all YOUR money first. If you are on welfare, then we will quit giving you money. If you have no property, we'll take your weed. Sound like a winner?
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Leave my mole aloooone!!elebinty!1! :rant:
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Once we address the issue of people having too much money and the we gradually lower what we consider "wealthy" year after year as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
This is what they call making everyone equally miserable. The goal of all socialist/communist/fascist/progressivists is to eliminate the middle class. Then glorious revolution can happen and unicorn socialist utopia happens. Glorious futire then happens like what went on in 2008 and on... summer of recovery 5!!!!!!!!!111111!!!!1elevinty
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Wealth tax--with HUGE penalties for those who try to hide their wealth or move their assets overseas or to lower tax areas, like John Kerry did with his yacht, right DUmmies?
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Wealth tax--with HUGE penalties for those who try to hide their wealth or move their assets overseas or to lower tax areas, like John Kerry did with his yacht, right DUmmies?
Not John Kerry. He's a democrat. Or the Kennedys. The DUmmies are talking about people who didn't earn their money.
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Leave my mole aloooone!!elebinty!1! :rant:
Hey now Skul... I tried to give ya some cover here but some one, not mentioning any names, violated opsec. The Rove is not happy.
Damn ya all making my job as Mole Overseer daggone hard!!!!
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linky (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023356609)
But don't worry, there'll be plenty a-taxing going on...
"Journo" nadin, on the job as always, smells a rat...
But THIS gem is the whole reason I brought this over...
Please tell me this is a mole, that nobody really thinks like this...
I wish I could...I have met quite a few of these asshole over my lifetime....they are getting more prevalent these days.
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I wish I could...I have met quite a few of these asshole over my lifetime....they are getting more prevalent these days.
Damn. I thought we beat the Commies...
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Damn. I thought we beat the Commies...
Apparently there is at least one more who needs a beating to be beaten.
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Damn. I thought we beat the Commies...
They are like cockroaches they can survive a nuclear blast....so you have to step on them.
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hughee99 (10,401 posts)
36. A constitutional amendment that lets congress spend the wealthy's money as if it's government money?
Sounds like a good idea.
I think the reason repukes and Democrats disagree so much on taxes it because repukes have this idea that the money they work for and take home is THEIR money, and when they pay taxes, they're giving THEIR money to the government. They need to look at it as all money they make, the product of their labor, belongs to the GOVERNMENT and what they take home is what the government chooses to let them keep. Their assets, their personal property, they all really belong to the government. The government can take those things (or force them to sell them) whenever they like, if they need the money, or even if they don't. We don't need to address the issue of wasteful government spending, what we really need to fix is problem of some people who have too much money.
Once we address the issue of people having too much money and the we gradually lower what we consider "wealthy" year after year as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
:mental:
Star Member PowerToThePeople (1,555 posts)
12. Since a dead person is dead
Last edited Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:14 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
they can not be taxed. They also can not own anything. Everything that was theirs in life should revert to the commons.
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Star Member PowerToThePeople (1,555 posts)
35. We need to be honest
ALL of us have what we have because prior generations KILLED innocent people. Think African slave traders. native Americans, Indigenous peoples from around the world.
Stored wealth while people are starving and homeless is a crime against humanity. We are all guilty of it.
How about we start with your stuff DUmmy?
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Some of the stuff libs say is quite troubling. Unless it's just the moles stirring the pot.
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Once we address the issue of people having too much money and the we gradually lower what we consider "wealthy" year after year as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
Please tell me this is a mole, that nobody really thinks like this...
I would hope so. That statement is disconnected from any reality I am aware of.
as revenues decrease or spending increases, then we can tackle the government spending problem
So mind-numbing, I had to quote it twice. Geeez......
Star Member PowerToThePeople (1,555 posts)
12. Since a dead person is dead
Last edited Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:14 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
they can not be taxed. They also can not own anything. Everything that was theirs in life should revert to the commons.
Oh, that's right up their alley.
ALL of us have what we have because prior generations KILLED innocent people. Think African slave traders.
Who sold off their own people for money and stuff.
native Americans,
Who killed each other over land and stuff. For centuries.
Indigenous peoples from around the world.
I am going to research your family history. If I find one European, I am going to come to your residence, arrest, try and execute you on the spot.
sOcIaLJusTiCe!!!!!111!! right?
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Please tell me this is a mole, that nobody really thinks like this...
The mole in my sig did all the time :yahoo: