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Title: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: LC EFA on June 18, 2008, 03:18:27 AM
I spotted this thread and thought that it wold be your standard fare idiot bashing of nuclear power.

Surprising that a couple of people in there havn't succumbed to the crazy yet.

That doesn't however, mean that the stupid hasn't been spread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3470143

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ccharles000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-17-08 01:38 PM
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What is wrong with nuclear power?   

I think France gets a lot of its power from it and if we can or if a way exist already to deal with the waste safely. I can't see a problem with it.

France, Germany, Japan, Russia, India, Sweeden, Spain , ...

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navarth  Donating Member  (988 posts) Tue Jun-17-08 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #24
107. perhps you'd be willing to live there?
   
I ride to work every day with a guy from Russia. I've heard the whole history of Chernobyl. It's ****ing uninhabitable. But go ahead, knock yourself out if you want.

DUmmies lie. DUmmies lie all the time.

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NeedleCast  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-17-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
70. Yes, you shoud look up the Chernobyl disaster
   
If you do, you'll see that the explosion there occurred due to extraordinarily bad maintenance and a test gone wrong at a poorly designed Cold War era facility. Using Chernobyl as an example of why nuclear power is unsafe is like cutting the wings off a plane then pushing it off a cliff and claiming air travel isn't safe because planes can crash.

I'd give this poster a HI5 if I could.

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truth2power  (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-17-08 02:28 PM
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38. Everything else aside...and people should reflect on this..
   
Nuclear power is an incredibly costly way to Boil Water

Boil water --> Produce steam --> Turn turbine --> Produce electricity.

Ya mean the same way that coal does, except with lots less CO2 (and the other stuff that coal power spews out) .. I thought it was CO2 you envirowankers had their knickers in a twist over.

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poliscifanboy  (36 posts) Tue Jun-17-08 02:42 PM
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43. uhhhhh.......its evil!
   
Nuclear energy is pure evil. All it does is kill people.

All fear the nuclear BoogieManson !!!

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KamaAina  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-17-08 03:39 PM
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58. 56 posts and no one's mentioned weapons proliferation?
   
Proliferation is bad. That's why we're gonna have to attack Iran, so the bad guys don't get any nukes. :sarcasm:

And certain types of nuclear reactors produce waste that, in the wrong hands, could become nuclear weapons. :scared:

It's not about the nuclear power it's about the WEAPONS , , , DUDE !!
What's the bet that this asshole would see nothing wrong with a nuclear armed Iran

Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 18, 2008, 05:08:01 AM
Tell ya what, LC . . . I agree with you 110%.  Since you and I can't H5 NeedleCast, I'll H5 you instead for finding that gem.
Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: formerlurker on June 18, 2008, 05:11:32 AM
Hmmm, if nuclear energy is pure evil, then allowing Iran to build nuclear "power plants" is what?   


Bueller....Bueller.......


Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 18, 2008, 06:35:56 AM
The Chernobyl disaster is a better example of socialism at it's finest than it is a mark against the use of nuclear power.
Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: franksolich on June 18, 2008, 07:50:09 AM
The Chernobyl disaster is a better example of socialism at it's finest than it is a mark against the use of nuclear power.

That is exactly it, sir, a failure of socialism; it certainly demonstrated, in its slipshod construction, how much the socialists loved the workers and peasants.

I was in Ukraine 8-10 years after Chernobyl.

I heard many times about how it was several days before the socialists told their own people what had happened, and that ostensibly radiation had rained down from the skies on May 1, May Day, as hundreds of thousands of children marched in socialist parades in downtown Kiev, ignorant of any peril.

However, the people had sensed something was wrong, because the accident at Chernobyl happened during the small hours of the morning.....and by circa 6:00 a.m., 7:00 a.m., the roads leading out of Kiev were jampacked with vehicles fleeing east and northeast (towards Moscow).  Under socialism, traffic jams were an unknown phenomenon, given that only socialists, and not people, could afford to have and maintain motor vehicles.

And then there was this--thousands of automobiles and military trucks, jampacked full with possessions, streaming out of the city.  Many of the people in these convoys were recognizable as socialists, abandoning the people to their fate.

The people wondered what had happened--the most common supposition was that some sort of coup d'etat had happened in Moscow, but being victims of totalitarianism, generally obeyed orders to stay put and continue on with their regular routines, their regular lives.

I actually saw Chernobyl, but from a distance.  I have no idea how close I was taken, but it was close enough to see from the distance all of the buildings, including the "entombed" one.  Mostly what I remember was going through villages and towns and cities, abandoned 8-10 years previously; weeds growing on the streets, buildings slowly collapsing, junk strewn all around, not a soul.

This is the sort of world for which the primitives dream; where their idols, their icons, their gods live in comfort and opulence and security, and the people languish in poverty. 

One supposes the primitives imagine that under socialism, the primitives would be among the favored few, but that's never happened.  The primitives would be mired in poverty and hopelessness and want and involuntary ignorance along with all decent and civilized people.
Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: Rebel on June 18, 2008, 08:57:25 AM
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NeedleCast  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-17-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
70. Yes, you shoud look up the Chernobyl disaster
   
If you do, you'll see that the explosion there occurred due to extraordinarily bad maintenance and a test gone wrong at a poorly designed Cold War era facility. Using Chernobyl as an example of why nuclear power is unsafe is like cutting the wings off a plane then pushing it off a cliff and claiming air travel isn't safe because planes can crash.


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Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: vlad335 on June 18, 2008, 05:52:24 PM
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html
Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 19, 2008, 03:29:20 AM
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html

Saw her site 2 or 3 years ago......very interesting.

She's either got more balls than me or she's dumber than me because I wouldn't go there alone myself.
Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: ScubaGuy on June 19, 2008, 07:00:25 AM
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html

I'll try to find the links but she was a hoax.  The pictures were taken when she went on a bus tour of the area.

Good pictures though.

Title: Re: Dummies DU Nuclear power
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 19, 2008, 08:31:17 AM
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html

I'll try to find the links but she was a hoax.  The pictures were taken when she went on a bus tour of the area.

Good pictures though.



Well, she fooled me....twice maybe....but like you said, I still enjoyed the pictures.