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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on July 22, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023312413
Oh my.
Where the idiot twin picks up things to talk about, no one knows. But in this case, he probably saw something on television about it.
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 08:49 AM
TX has no agency overseeing amusement park safety.
I'm sure that's comforting to the family of the woman who fell off the Texas Giant roller coaster that their state has no pesky regulations for giant Texas corporations. WTF?
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:15 AM
6. Scary, but "almost" happened to me once.
It was The Big E, a massive two-week 6-state fair held in Masschusetts. A friend's kid talked me into going a ride with her. It was a huge round thing with seats around the perimeter of the circle, facing out. It lifts about 20 feet off the ground, turns upside down, then starts spinning and twisting on its axis.
We boarded this contraption and pulled the restraint bars over our shoulders. However, on my seat, the bar wouldn't latch. The carny came around checking that we were all buckled in, and I told him my seat didn't latch. I asked for a different seat, but he said the ride was full, and started jumping up and down on the harness. He had to try it from a couple angles before we heard a loud click. I repeated that I wasn't likin' this, and said the exact same words the poor woman in Texas heard before plummeting to her death..."As long as you heard it click you're okay," and walked off.
Obviously I lived, but it was not a fun ride!
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:30 AM
12. I don't think it is very tough to follow...Six Flags ADMITS there are no regulations...
With no safety oversight, Six Flags will investigate coaster death itself
By M. Alex Johnson, Staff Writer, NBC News
The investigation of the death of a woman on a roller coaster at Six Flags Over Texas will be led by Six Flags itself, because there's no state or federal agency responsible for enforcing the safety of amusement parks.
Rosy Esparza of Dallas died Friday night when she fell from the Texas Giant, which is billed as the world's steepest wooden roller coaster.
Six Flags initially said in a statement that it was "working with authorities" to figure out what happened. But it later had to admit that it was running the investigation itself because there are no authorities to work with.
No federal agency has legal authority to enforce safety standards. And Texas is one of at least 17 states that have no agency responsible for inspecting amusement park rides, according to NBC News' survey of state codes in all 50 states.
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/21/19601083-with-no-safety-oversight-six-flags-will-investigate-coaster-death-itself#comments
Dreamer Tatum (7,396 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:09 PM
19. Two fatalities in something like 50 years!
Harumph harumph. ANGRY WORDS!
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:56 AM
16. I'm dubious about "Insurance Loss Control."
Look, as shown in my post above, Six Flags themselves stated that they would be doing the "investigation" themselves, because there are no authorities in this situation. So what if Six Flags vindicates themselves? Are they off the hook? And what is "Insurance Loss Control's" main objective? Making sure the insurance companies don't suffer any losses, or park safety? Again, read my post above, in Six Flag's OWN WORDS...it appears no one is legally responsible for overseeing park safety. Which would appear to mean no one actually has any authority. NO REGULATIONS.
One_Life_To_Give (4,867 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:06 PM
18. Official State Agency
How many roller-coaster safety experts are there in the world? Can any one state afford to keep one such expert on staff full time?
The program may or may not be crap. Not sure for any such small Niche you are going to find any state really has the experts on staff. If anything a federal program would make more sense. Roller-Coasters are not as common as bridges. State inspectors for the latter make sense. Specialty items like this really should be done by people with more experience than most individual states could afford to keep on staff.
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:49 PM
23. Why are you focusing on roller coasters?
Roller coasters are not the primary issue, merely the current issue. Of course I wouldn't expect a state to have one dedicated "Roller Coaster Inspector." I never stated that. But only 17 states, Texas among them, have no agency responsible for inspecting amusement parks and carnivals and rides at the State Fair midway.
Don't tell me Texas doesn't have a lot of carnivals and festivals! And it's not as if the Carnival/midway industry is already known for it's fine, upstanding adherence to truth and honesty. With number of carnivals and state fairs and amusement parks in any given state, I tend to disagree that it would be a waste to have people dedicated to inspecting them. All but 17 states seem to agree.
tammywammy (18,682 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:30 PM
21. After the only other guest fatality Six Flags brought in outsiders to investigate.
The manufacturer of the coaster & trains is already on the way to Arlington.
They settled the previous case for $4M and joined in the lawsuit against manufacturer of the seating and made modifications to all Rapids rides to prevent it happening again.
Based on the only other previous incident, it doesn't look like Six Flags skirts the investigation at all.
Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:53 PM
24. Don't worry...the "INSURANCE LOSS" agent will be on the case.
He'll make sure that check is as small as possible. Right after he supposedly "inspects" the rides.
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Where the idiot twin picks up things to talk about, no one knows.
I'd hazard a guess . . . and say 'His rectum,' but that's just me. O-)
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If she were a member of the "official" minority, I think we can find a racial element in this tragic incident.
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If she were a member of the "official" minority, I think we can find a racial element in this tragic incident.
Beat me to it.
Clearly the roller coaster white designers and engineers racially target minorities for one in one ten trillion mechanical failures/accidents.
Whatever happens the DUches reflexively go to MORE GOVERNMENT. One trick ponies.
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Even my wife noted the....................size of the woman in question. Her response: "I'll bet she pitched a fit when they told her she shouldn't go on the ride".
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Atman (26,334 posts) Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:15 AM
Obviously I lived, but it was not a fun ride!
Another tragedy comes to light.
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Since Obama is so concerned about our safety, he should be required to test every roller coaster, every day, all day long.
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Clearly the roller coaster white designers and engineers racially target minorities for one in one ten trillion mechanical failures/accidents.
It would be a lot safer if everything were designed by affirmative-action engineers.
They'd keep it real.
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Government inspection or not, doesn't the company have a self-interest in not having its ass sued?
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Ummm...the Arlington police and the fire department are both investigating he accident at Six Flags. Scatman is a dumbshit.
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Government inspection or not, doesn't the company have a self-interest in not having its ass sued?
Oh, you would go all F.A. Hayek on the DUmmies!
:-) :-) :-)
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Government inspection or not, doesn't the company have a self-interest in not having its ass sued?
As does their insurance carrier. They will likely pay out the maximum on Six Flag's liability policy. If the payout is huge, odds are the park will close, as no one will insure them at any price. (happened to the waterslide park in my town).
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Government inspection or not, doesn't the company have a self-interest in not having its ass sued?
But, you're missing the BIG PICTURE!
There's no government regulations or inspectors f'n everything up for this EEEVIL Corporation, therefore the ticket prices are too low!
Probably underpay their workers and don't offer them healthcare, too. [/du mode]
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Since Obama is so concerned about our safety, he should be required to test every roller coaster, every day, all day long.
It's probably a better and more productive use of his time than tax-payers currently get out of him.
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Even my wife noted the....................size of the woman in question. Her response: "I'll bet she pitched a fit when they told her she shouldn't go on the ride".
I thought I was the only 1 thinking that, she looked like she was too big for the ride, but if they denied her access to the ride they'd be sued for discrimination.
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They just look for any excuse to try and slam Texas. It doesn't work.
KC