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Spaldeen (90 posts)
The grocery store, the gun, and my free speech rights [View all]
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Earlier today before I mowed the lawn and had to take some allergy pills, I was at the grocery store. There in the line behind me, when I was checking out, was someone carrying a gun on their hip. I didn't say anything. It's totally legal here in my state, after all. But, I just felt like they were somehow inhibiting my freedom to speech. I can't exactly figure out the how, or the why, or the what of the whole thing.
Maybe I was afraid to speak to the cashier? Maybe I thought that something would happen if I made a sudden move? Like if I pulled out my wallet too fast, the crazy person behind me would think I'm going for a knife to shank him, or somebody else? I mean, who needs a gun in the freaking grocery store? That meat you're buying is already dead, I promise you won't have to shoot it. I felt very conscious of all of my movements, like I was being watched, like a penned up animal at the zoo.
When I got out to my car, I just sat behind the steering wheel, angry. I wrapped my fingers tightly around the wheel, and just sat there, all tense, feeling uneasy, and flustered about the whole ordeal. I felt like I wasn't in control of the situation inside of that store at all.
I felt like I had been silenced. I felt like you would after being admonished by an authority figure, when you have no rebuttal. I felt like a child who had been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I felt like I was the one who had done something wrong.
Why did I feel this way? I'm still pissed about it. If I can figure out why, I can fight it next time. Sorry for venting.
Let's just assume this really happened... (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3306165)
It's simple, DUmmy: you felt this way because you are, to borrow a base, vernacular term, a *****. Someone carrying a gun shouldn't intimidate you in the least unless they're pointing it at you, which they weren't. People like you are why France surrendered.
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But, I just felt like they were somehow inhibiting my freedom to speech.
This is the first sensible argument I've seen against open carry.
This DUmmy is claiming it will prevent checkout-line bouncy tales.
That is not a good thing at all.
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Simpering, mewling, puking and impotent waste of skin.
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That thread is full of mini-bouncies!
Brigid (11,033 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:16 PM
17. I was in a Burger King once,
and was sitting there eating my lunch when I noticed a guy at a nearby table had a holstered gun. I finished up and got out as fast as I could. I just didn't feel comfortable. Who the hell needs a gun to eat a freaking Whopper?
HiPointDem (19,735 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:30 PM
29. i recently had the same experience in a store. first time i've ever seen anyone with a handgun
inside a store.
it really disturbed me. i had an urge to call the police and report him, of all things, though i knew it was ridiculous (& he wasn't doing anything illegal). but i felt like it was wrong.
it didn't help that the guy was acting like a jerk in kind of a subtle way -- loudly talking about some public issue with a smirk on his face. (I almost felt like he was daring someone to contradict him, but no doubt that's my own emotional reaction and 'reading in-to').
i didn't like it.
sweetloukillbot (781 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
132. 25 years ago at one of my first jobs someone pulled that crap
Guy in line had a gun - not causing any problem, it's Arizona and it's commonplace. I don't particularly like it and I don't understand the need for it. Next customer in line start's reaming me a new asshole about how I'm putting his children at risk by not confronting the guy with the gun. Didn't exactly warm me to his position, but if he the only way he felt he could deal with it was to blame an 18-year-old cashier making $3.25 an hour for his fears, that says something about him.
Sanctimonious customers who have to make loud pronouncements and shows berating the hourly staff about why "THEY'RE NOT SHOPPING HERE AGAIN" are almost always in the wrong.
This one is my favorite:
pasto76 (1,371 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
74. Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation
I know guns. Ive been up to my neck in gun culture and the ARMY culture since I was 19.
Guns can be intimidating. People WANT them to be intimidating. This guy you saw today is daring you to say something. And you didnt.
last time I saw open carry was in the grocery store last fall. LEOs dont openly carry. It was 0430. it was the third time Id seen him in there, I was like "what dude, you think the produce is going to attack? defending yourself from the stockboys? You're a douche"
he gave me a surprised look, tough guy look, confused look, then sad look in that order. Havent seen him again. Dont be intimidated.Its what they want, and I believe, like many bullies, it only takes one or two verbal shots to deflate them.
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DUmmie left out a few details....baggie pants, hoodie and black.....but to mention that would make him racist.
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Brigid (11,033 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:16 PM
17. I was in a Burger King once,
and was sitting there eating my lunch when I noticed a guy at a nearby table had a holstered gun. I finished up and got out as fast as I could. I just didn't feel comfortable. Who the hell needs a gun to eat a freaking Whopper?
What a stupid thing to say. People also carry their cell phones, makeup(in their purse), id, pictures, etc in to eat whoppers too and at what time are any of those things 'needed' to eat a whopper. People just carry things essential or meaningful to them in some way and it doesn't mean they are going to use them. So now we get to the heart of the liberal argument against guns really; they are the perpetual children who feel bad that a big bad authority figure is around(and that holstered gun is as good as a teacher of yore's switch in making them feel like children). This makes me want every law abiding citizen to have one. Can you imagine the civility if all it takes to shut up the liberal children and their feewings is having a holstered weapon on your hip? We may have stumbled onto gold as to how to get at least white liberals to behave properly in public. That's why that OP was seething with anger in his car; in that world he couldn't have the uncivilized free-for-all, talk shit to anyone and everyone he is used to. As someone else said he is a ***** who doesn't have the courage to stand by his convictions. We would never had a revolutionary war if there were more like him in the late 1700's intimidated by any show of might.
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I mean, who needs a gun in the freaking grocery store?
Based on the stories below the answer to your question is: a person who doesn't wish to be attacked by bad guys.
Knife attack at north Las Vegas Grocery Store Link to news story (http://www.8newsnow.com/story/6191072/knife-attack-at-north-las-vegas-grocery-store)
Shopper followed home from grocery store, attached outside home Link to news story (http://www.click2houston.com/news/shopper-followed-home-from-grocery-store-attacked-outside-home/-/1735978/20298306/-/8ykid5z/-/index.html)
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Spaldeen (90 posts)
Why did I feel this way?
Because you are a pansy. You fear guns, and the men who wear them. You fear those who might even keep guns in their homes.
Fear. Fear and hate define liberal socialists. Real men and women who can stand up for themselves are a threat to a liberal. And so they will hate you. and believe me, they will kill you if given power.
First they will come for your guns, then the purge will come. It is SOP for every socialist regime.
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But, I just felt like they were somehow inhibiting my freedom to speech.
This right here makes me wonder how in the hell these idiots are winning. They are scared of their own shadows then all it takes is a person with a gun on his person to make them ball up in the fetal position and cry for mommy.
it really disturbed me. i had an urge to call the police and report him,
So you had an urge to call someone else with a gun to keep you from wetting your panties?
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pasto76 (1,371 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
74. Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation
I know guns. Ive been up to my neck in gun culture and the ARMY culture since I was 19.
Guns can be intimidating. People WANT them to be intimidating. This guy you saw today is daring you to say something. And you didnt.
last time I saw open carry was in the grocery store last fall. LEOs dont openly carry. It was 0430. it was the third time Id seen him in there, I was like "what dude, you think the produce is going to attack? defending yourself from the stockboys? You're a douche"
he gave me a surprised look, tough guy look, confused look, then sad look in that order. Havent seen him again. Dont be intimidated.Its what they want, and I believe, like many bullies, it only takes one or two verbal shots to deflate them.
Funny most LEO's in uniform open carry. Many also CC when not in uniform. Surely the military taught you better situational awareness than that.
I also wonder why the primitive claims only 18 years in the "Army"? Most people with that many years in would stay the extra 2 for retirement. If the primitive is telling the truth I wonder if it's discharge was involuntary.
sweetloukillbot (781 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 11:16 PM
132. 25 years ago at one of my first jobs someone pulled that crap
Guy in line had a gun - not causing any problem, it's Arizona and it's commonplace. I don't particularly like it and I don't understand the need for it. Next customer in line start's reaming me a new asshole about how I'm putting his children at risk by not confronting the guy with the gun. Didn't exactly warm me to his position, but if he the only way he felt he could deal with it was to blame an 18-year-old cashier making $3.25 an hour for his fears, that says something about him.
Sanctimonious customers who have to make loud pronouncements and shows berating the hourly staff about why "THEY'RE NOT SHOPPING HERE AGAIN" are almost always in the wrong.
I bet that was one of your fellow moonbats. You should have immediately started a drum circle and quit your job. Besides I don't know why you are complaining, that kind of behavior is cheered at the DUmp.
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Funny most LEO's in uniform open carry. Many also CC when not in uniform. Surely the military taught you better situational awareness than that.
I also wonder why the primitive claims only 18 years in the "Army"? Most people with that many years in would stay the extra 2 for retirement. If the primitive is telling the truth I wonder if it's discharge was involuntary.
Not to defend the DUmmy, but I suppose if it was in the 90s he could have took early retirement. I know whole a bunch of e-5s at 15 years retired when I was in.
Odds are he did come up hot on a piss test though, or it took him 18 years to get the medical discharge he sought.
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Not to defend the DUmmy, but I suppose if it was in the 90s he could have took early retirement. I know whole a bunch of e-5s at 15 years retired when I was in.
Odds are he did come up hot on a piss test though, or it took him 18 years to get the medical discharge he sought.
Didn't said DUmb**** say something about being in OIF?
I'd say the second paragraph is probably the truth.
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I almost always conceal carry, but if all it takes is me to open carry my weapon to have a bunch of primitives pinch one off in their shorts, I think I might have to switch.
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These ****ers would hate TN.
I see an open carrier or two everyday.
And I can almost guarantee for every open carrier there are 5 concealers.
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One of the wife's friends is true loon. She was over at the house and I received a Buck 120 one liner from an ebay auction. I was admiring it and putting a better edge on it (Buck Knives, hard to dull, harder to sharpen) when she comes in to my shop. She got her panties in bunch about the knife. The scrunt demanded I put it away because "it is intimidating." Just something in the genome of leftist losers that makes them scared of just about anything except big all oppressive government.
LEOs dont openly carry
Every uniform cop (except meter maids) open carry.
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Not to defend the DUmmy, but I suppose if it was in the 90s he could have took early retirement. I know whole a bunch of e-5s at 15 years retired when I was in.
Odds are he did come up hot on a piss test though, or it took him 18 years to get the medical discharge he sought.
Or he got QMP'd and the 18 is really 'Almost 18.'
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And, if one of these open carry folks left their firearm in the vehicle while they grabbed a bite or something else a DUmmie thought they didn't need it for and the vehicle was stolen or the firearm stolen ...
Yeah, it's a GOOD thing to leave firearms unattended in public.
DUmbasses.
KC
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If they were waiting for a midnight showing of the premiere of Batman in Aurora, CO, I'm sure he wouldn't have written this story quite so easily.
Oh, wait...this is DU...
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Response to Spaldeen (Original post)Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:16 PM
Brigid (11,035 posts)
17. I was in a Burger King once,
and was sitting there eating my lunch when I noticed a guy at a nearby table had a holstered gun. I finished up and got out as fast as I could. I just didn't feel comfortable. Who the hell needs a gun to eat a freaking Whopper?
I don't know about Burger King and Whoppers, Brigid, you stupid ass, but have you ever heard of the San Ysidro McDonald's massacre?
The San Ysidro McDonald's massacre was a mass murder that occurred on July 18, 1984 in San Ysidro, California. James Oliver Huberty entered a McDonald's restaurant, fatally shot 21 people, including five children, and injured 19 others, before he was eventually shot dead by a police sniper. It was the deadliest shooting rampage in the United States until the 1991 Luby's massacre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald's_massacre
It can happen in schools and movie theaters and it can happen in grocery stores and fast food restaurants too, stupid, stupid Dummy.
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These ****ers would hate TN.
I see an open carrier or two everyday.
And I can almost guarantee for every open carrier there are 5 concealers.
Once they changed the CC law here in WV you don't see many that open carry now. Used to see them all the time. Now, not so much.
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I don't know about Burger King and Whoppers, Brigid, you stupid ass, but have you ever heard of the San Ysidro McDonald's massacre?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald's_massacre
It can happen in schools and movie theaters and it can happen in grocery stores and fast food restaurants too, stupid, stupid Dummy.
The DUmp quotes are omitted.
The years Delmar quoted in some articles, were before CCW, became better known, and used.
The punks now target known "gun free' areas. Big wave to Shitago.
I'm tired, and my thinker's broke.
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Brigid (11,033 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:16 PM
17. I was in a Burger King once,
and was sitting there eating my lunch when I noticed a guy at a nearby table had a holstered gun. I finished up and got out as fast as I could. I just didn't feel comfortable. Who the hell needs a gun to eat a freaking Whopper?
Well, I can think of 40 people who could have used one while having a Big Mac...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ysidro_McDonald%27s_massacre
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pasto76 (1,371 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
74. Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation
I know guns. Ive been up to my neck in gun culture and the ARMY culture since I was 19.
Guns can be intimidating. People WANT them to be intimidating. This guy you saw today is daring you to say something. And you didnt.
last time I saw open carry was in the grocery store last fall. LEOs dont openly carry. It was 0430. it was the third time Id seen him in there, I was like "what dude, you think the produce is going to attack? defending yourself from the stockboys? You're a douche"
he gave me a surprised look, tough guy look, confused look, then sad look in that order. Havent seen him again. Dont be intimidated.Its what they want, and I believe, like many bullies, it only takes one or two verbal shots to deflate them.
Ummm... yeah, right.
A lie from the first sentence. Zero bongs, bedwetter.
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pasto76 (1,371 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
74. Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004.
Should have stopped right there, winter warrior.
The rest was mewling BS. Grow up.
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Should have stopped right there, winter warrior.
The rest was mewling BS. Grow up.
Mewling and pewling.
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Once they changed the CC law here in WV you don't see many that open carry now. Used to see them all the time. Now, not so much.
When I drove a truck, there was a place in Chesapeake we would stop at to fuel up before we made the trip south down the WVTP.
One night, the cashier had a .38 strapped to his hip, and I asked him if he was expecting trouble, or looking to prevent trouble. He smiled and said whatever came his way, he was ready for it.
They also had a sign at the door that read "This store protected by .38 Special, 3 nights a week. You guess which nights!"
I guess Wednesday was one of them... :lmao:
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But, I just felt like they were somehow inhibiting my freedom to speech. I can't exactly figure out the how, or the why, or the what of the whole thing.
Because, when you're making things up, you don't have to, snookums.
Isn't adolescent arrest wonderful?
"This store protected by .38 Special, 3 nights a week. You guess which nights!"
That's good. :hi5:
pasto76 (1,371 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:12 PM
74. Im an army vet of 18 years. OIF 2003-2004. They wear this for intimidation
I know guns. Ive been up to my neck in gun culture and the ARMY culture since I was 19.
Guns can be intimidating. People WANT them to be intimidating. This guy you saw today is daring you to say something. And you didnt.
last time I saw open carry was in the grocery store last fall. LEOs dont openly carry. It was 0430. it was the third time Id seen him in there, I was like "what dude, you think the produce is going to attack? defending yourself from the stockboys? You're a douche"
he gave me a surprised look, tough guy look, confused look, then sad look in that order. Havent seen him again. Dont be intimidated.Its what they want, and I believe, like many bullies, it only takes one or two verbal shots to deflate them.
...and you're as full of shit as the Christmas goose that is stalking you down aisle 7.
Next customer in line start's reaming me a new asshole about how I'm putting his children at risk by not confronting the guy with the gun.
Uh huh...
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DUmmie Spauldeen, I laughed and laughed at you all through your puke-inducing OP. Notice how many times he used the word "feeeeel."
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When I got out to my car, I just sat behind the steering wheel, angry. I wrapped my fingers tightly around the wheel, and just sat there, all tense, feeling uneasy, and flustered about the whole ordeal.
Here is the deal. You are a crazy person and the above clearly demonstrates that. You being crazy assume all other people are like you when only about 5000 misfits on the DUmp are like you. Ergo you think that the person with the open carry is crazy because that is all you know.