ErikJ (2,959 posts) Sat Jul 20, 2013, 09:04 PM
6. Give Detroit to Canada
Detroit is one of the few parts of the United States (other than Alaska) that’s actually north of Canada: The city of Windsor, Ontario, lies south of it. So why not make this Canada’s problem? Much of the city’s fiscal problems boil down to retiree benefits. For example, it has $5.7 billion in unfunded retiree benefits and $3.5 billion in unfunded pensions. Luckily, Canada has a single-payer health-care system and not one but two publicly funded pension systems. Let those pay off the debt!
Canada’s provinces do more for municipalities than our states do for cities. Toronto gets 19 percent of its budget from the Ontario and Canadian federal governments. That’s much more than U.S. cities typically get. Ontario’s generally in better shape than Michigan, which is good news for tax money going to Detroit. Toronto and Ottawa are better cities to have helping you out than, say, Flint.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/20/six-crazy-ideas-for-saving-detroit/?tid=pm_business_pop
Does Detroit have anything good going for it?
Detroit is one of the few parts of the United States (other than Alaska) that’s actually north of Canada.DUmp democrats are among those who can't identify South America or India on a globe, so this statement isn't a surprise.
Star Member ErikJ (2,958 posts)
2. Rip the freeways out of inner Detroit and put in streetcars
They put these monsters intersecting Detroit 60 years ago and they made it way too easy for the residents to commute back and forth to the burbs from work which eventually drained the tax base out of Detroit.
Star Member former9thward (6,982 posts)
4. And what would these people do?
There would not be one employer without freeways.
Star Member ErikJ (2,958 posts)
9. I said just inner Detroit..... at least.
Lot of the poor dont haqve cars anyway so those freeways arent helping them. Freeways just encourage more commuting and car dependency. the point is to encourage people to live NEAR work downtown so they dont even need a car.
Star Member former9thward (6,982 posts)
11. The employers want and need freeways.
Without freeways GM who is the biggest employer in Detroit would be out of town in a minute.
Star Member ErikJ (2,958 posts)
18. BS. Cars are what are ultimately destroying Detroit.
They need much better mass transit system and streetcars. Freeways just encourage sprawl and urban decay.
Star Member former9thward (6,982 posts)
21. Are those street cars going to bring supplies to factories and business?
You know -- the things that employ people. This is 2013 not 1913.
Star Member ErikJ (2,958 posts)
6. No, make the whole Metro area into one big city.
Too many governments makes it too confusing for a large continuity population . A single govt to handle all the taxes, planning and infrastrucure mainteneance is much better. The big problem for Detroit is that the tax base is out in the burbs but none is available for core Detroit.
Star Member Dreamer Tatum (7,377 posts)
27. Nothing brings in hard currency quite like a theater group.
Except perhaps mimes or caricaturists.
Gravitycollapse (2,346 posts)
45. That's not how gentrification works. Impoverished artists move into low rent areas...
The middle and upper class population fund these artists and that then creates a community of wealth consumption generally in the form of bars and restaurants. Which gives incentive for the local police to provide a greater presence along the periphery of these zones of wealth. This drives out lower income residents (read:minorities) further incentivizing upwardly mobile white people to move in. This increases property values, driving up rent and property tax. Poor minorities, who see no job benefits from this movement, can no longer afford to live there and have to move out.
Increased rent further incentivizes the immigration of upwardly mobile persons, encouraging greater policing, the destruction of low income housing and the driving out, through economic and social prejudice, of poor minorities.
This is gentrification. It does not help poor minority communities. It blows them apart.
Give the Canucks Love Canal, too. I'm sure they'd enjoy having that as much a having Detroit.
The media was — and continues to be — complicit in all of the hysteria. However, the $3 million study has found no relationship between having had a home in the Love Canal area or of having attended school there, despite the fact that, by the 1960s and 1970s, contaminated groundwater was leaching into back yards and the school grounds. As the State Health Department reported in 2001, there was no greater incidence of cancer among the people who formerly lived in the Love Canal area than for any other comparable group of upstate New Yorkers.
Love Canal, the famed pit of environmental pestilence, was remarkably benign.
ZX86 (166 posts)
19. I'm no expert on urban planning.
But from what I've witnessed people from poor countries bring skills and work ethic that create their own economies.
A rural fire departments tanker/firetruck loaded with 4,000 gallon mix of 1/3 gas and 2/3 diesel fuel and a box of matches would be a good beginning.
So in other words keep the residents captive by not allowing them to drive.
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Put a 30 foot tall chain link fence around Detroit. Cut off all power and water.
I had to change positions but......
DUchebag: 1+1=POTATO
DUmpmonkey: I'm afraid you are wrong,1+1=2
DUchebag: You are ****ing wrong. 1+1=POTATO!!
DUmpmonkey: No, 1+1=2 because they are both numbers.
DUchebag: What you fail to see is that 1+1=POTATO!!!!!!!!! Freeper.
DUmpmonkey: No, 1+1=2 NOT potato because a potato is a root vegetable and not a number.
DUchebag: You fail to take the basic premise that 1+1=POTATO. Why do you fail to understand that 1+1=POTATO?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you would be more comfortable at Stormfront.
DUmpmonkey: I'm a democrat but what part of a potato is root vegetable and not a number don't you understand?
DUchebag: I can't believe that you are spouting right-wing, gun nut, Nazi, racist, hate filled talking points. Everyone here is super smart and we all agree that 1+1=POTATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy your stay.
DUmpmonkey: I have always been a progressive, even in the womb. 1+1=2 because 2 is a number and potato is a root vegetable. Hey maybe someday potato will be a number but it isn't now.
DUchebag: It's because of racist hate filled assholes like you that we will never get to the socialist utopia that is 1+1=POTATO.
You just gave John Carpenter the idea for his next movie...Escape From New York III
This time it's Detroit, But without that cool Crow guy
(http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/alien-sigourneyweaver-nuke-riley-orbit-1348491814r.gif)In the case of Detroit, apply that solution to the entire state.
:cheersmate: It's the only way to be sure.
Canada’s provinces do more for municipalities than our states do for cities. Toronto gets 19 percent of its budget from the Ontario and Canadian federal governments. That’s much more than U.S. cities typically get.
.....and do you really think Canada wants a city that is 47% functionally illiterate?They just don't read cursive.
Bull.
Shit.
.....and do you really think Canada wants a city that is 47% functionally illiterate?
Last I heard, Canadians call Windsor the "Armpit of Canada" and I'm sure they'd LOVE for the US to annex Windsor and take it off their hands. All DUmmies think about is how much stuff cities get from the other people, but have no concept of said stuff is paid for in the first place.
^^ That was pretty funny watching Eric "Streetcar" J, digging in his heels and insisting his idea was brilliant. And yes, he does want to create a little prison, from which there is no escape. Pretty evil if you ask me.