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Title: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on July 17, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
Two separate threads:

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Taverner (53,992 posts)

Issues you kinda sorta side with the Conservatives on (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023281144)

For me it's GMOs.

The research shows they're not anywhere as dangerous as the anti-GMO crowd says they are

That being said, I do believe in labeling. I think the flavor folks in NJ should be listing their ingredients as well.

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Taverner (53,992 posts)

Issues you kinda sorta side with the Communists on (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023281964)
 
This is not a joke thread - I just thought I'd take in the opposite direction.

If you know me, you know I'm a Communist Sympathizer at the least...

So, for me, the biggest is "From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need."

Worth a read... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: jukin on July 17, 2013, 04:20:34 PM
"From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need." = "Slavery of those with abilities."
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: thundley4 on July 17, 2013, 04:47:59 PM
"From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need." = "Slavery of those with abilities."

The whole problem with that is that it gives to people with wants, not just needs.  Lazy ass people that are able to work but refuse to yet think they are owed a  share of what we work for.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: vlad335 on July 17, 2013, 11:03:23 PM
"From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need." = "Slavery of those with abilities."

Have to disagree. It's "Slavery for all."
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Maxiest on July 17, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
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"From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need."

How any person can actually believe this is beyond me.  And I try to be a very open minded person. 

There are even some liberal agendas I can at least understand where they come from it's just the end point in most of their agendas makes no logical or economical sense for anyone not even themselves.  Most of the serious none fringe agendas are just short sighted IMO.  Heck, after thinking about it, even this statement is short sighted. What happens when nobody is providing according to their ability because they are sick of having nothing and working their ass off just to give to everyone else.  Eventually you have a society where no one works and thus there is no production or output.  What then dummies?

 :???:
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: vlad335 on July 18, 2013, 12:10:50 AM
How any person can actually believe this is beyond me.  And I try to be a very open minded person. 

There are even some liberal agendas I can at least understand where they come from it's just the end point in most of their agendas makes no logical or economical sense for anyone not even themselves.  Most of the serious none fringe agendas are just short sighted IMO.  Heck, after thinking about it, even this statement is short sighted. What happens when nobody is providing according to their ability because they are sick of having nothing and working their ass off just to give to everyone else.  Eventually you have a society where no one works and thus there is no production or output.  What then dummies?

 :???:

Same thing happens every time. Gulags.

Their utopia cannot exist except at gunpoint.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Karin on July 18, 2013, 07:56:04 AM
Taverner:  I have no abilities and I really need a fix. 


Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Ballygrl on July 18, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
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Taverner (53,992 posts)

Issues you kinda sorta side with the Communists on
 
This is not a joke thread - I just thought I'd take in the opposite direction.

If you know me, you know I'm a Communist Sympathizer at the least...

So, for me, the biggest is "From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need."

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KamaAina (46,233 posts)
1. Race

the CPUSA was on the right side of the race issue as early as the 1930s -- easily a generation before any other organized faction of society. That's why Paul Robeson joined.

Blacks in Cuba are treated worse then whites in Cuba.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Skul on July 18, 2013, 09:49:58 PM
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So, for me, the biggest is "From each, according to their ability. To each, according to their need."
Sounds like you're SOL, tavernturd.
You have no contributing abilities, therefore you have no needs.
Suck on a rock, DUmbass.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Chris_ on July 18, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Sounds like you're SOL, tavernturd.
You have no contributing abilities, therefore you have no needs.
Suck on a rock, DUmbass.
Tav is only concerned with the second half of his Holy Maxim.  The first part he couldn't be bothered with.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 19, 2013, 04:45:52 AM
Tav is only concerned with the second half of his Holy Maxim.  The first part he couldn't be bothered with.

Other than to saddle the producers with even more demands for their wealth to be 'redistributed' to him.
Title: Re: Taverner discusses issues to agree with conservatives and communists
Post by: Maxiest on July 20, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
How any person can actually believe this is beyond me.  And I try to be a very open minded person. 

There are even some liberal agendas I can at least understand where they come from it's just the end point in most of their agendas makes no logical or economical sense for anyone not even themselves.  Most of the serious none fringe agendas are just short sighted IMO.  Heck, after thinking about it, even this statement is short sighted. What happens when nobody is providing according to their ability because they are sick of having nothing and working their ass off just to give to everyone else.  Eventually you have a society where no one works and thus there is no production or output.  What then dummies?

 :???:

Let me answer myself since I wrote this Detriot has filled for Bankruptcy.

See they taxed the people who worked to death to pay for the people that didn't.  Then when the working people left Detroit just charged it until their debt became so big they couldn't pay.  Luckily this is just a city in a large country where there are other options and can move.  But what happened in Detroit is exactly what will happen to the whole country expect the people won't have any where to go.