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Title: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Chris_ on June 16, 2008, 10:45:17 PM
Bush never lied to us about Iraq
The administration simply got bad intelligence. Critics are wrong to assert deception.
By James Kirchick
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-kirchick16-2008jun16,0,7766785.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-kirchick16-2008jun16,0,7766785.story)
Excerpt:
The LA Times
June 16, 2008
Touring Vietnam in 1965, Michigan Gov. George Romney proclaimed American involvement there "morally right and necessary." Two years later, however, Romney -- then seeking the Republican presidential nomination -- not only recanted his support for the war but claimed that he had been hoodwinked.

"When I came back from Vietnam, I had just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get," Romney told a Detroit TV reporter who asked the candidate how he reconciled his shifting views.

Romney (father of Mitt) had visited Vietnam with nine other governors, all of whom denied that they had been duped by their government. With this one remark, his presidential hopes were dashed.

The memory of this gaffe reverberates in the contemporary rhetoric of many Democrats, who, when attacking the Bush administration's case for war against Saddam Hussein, employ essentially the same argument. In 2006, John F. Kerry explained the Senate's 77-23 passage of the Iraq war resolution this way: "We were misled. We were given evidence that was not true." On the campaign trail, Hillary Rodham Clinton dodged blame for her pro-war vote by claiming that "the mistakes were made by this president, who misled this country and this Congress."

Nearly every prominent Democrat in the country has repeated some version of this charge, and the notion that the Bush administration deceived the American people has become the accepted narrative of how we went to war.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Chris_ on June 16, 2008, 10:45:36 PM
This ain't gonna enhance his popularity...
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: rich_t on June 16, 2008, 10:57:24 PM
This ain't gonna enhance his popularity...

Bush's?
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Jim on June 17, 2008, 07:27:51 AM
its only been investigated how many times ?  and nothing, nothing, nothing....

only liberals are so hypnotized as to not accept facts.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Red October on June 17, 2008, 07:59:14 AM
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In 2003, top Senate Democrats -- not just Rockefeller but also Carl Levin, Clinton, Kerry and others -- sounded just as alarmist. Conveniently, this month's report, titled "Whether Public Statements Regarding Iraq by U.S. Government Officials Were Substantiated by Intelligence Information," includes only statements by the executive branch. Had it scrutinized public statements of Democrats on the Intelligence, Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees -- who have access to the same intelligence information as the president and his chief advisors -- many senators would be unable to distinguish their own words from what they today characterize as warmongering.

We've been saying this for how many years now?  I'm shocked to see it in the LA Times.  I was expecting something along the lines of Saddam's Widow Blames Bush: How this Administration Failed Iraq.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Willow on June 17, 2008, 07:59:28 AM
its only been investigated how many times ?  and nothing, nothing, nothing....

only liberals are so hypnotized as to not accept facts.


programmed, liberals seem to be programmed.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Jim on June 17, 2008, 08:07:46 AM
its only been investigated how many times ?  and nothing, nothing, nothing....

only liberals are so hypnotized as to not accept facts.


programmed, liberals seem to be programmed.




if you repeat a lie often enough.....
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Baruch Menachem on June 17, 2008, 08:49:37 AM
its only been investigated how many times ?  and nothing, nothing, nothing....

only liberals are so hypnotized as to not accept facts.


programmed, liberals seem to be programmed.

if $caught
($loopy=0; $loopy<= infinity; $loopy++)

{ echo "It\'s Bush\'s fault!!!!!";  }
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: franksolich on June 17, 2008, 08:58:31 AM
Well, that is quite a remarkable acknowledgement, coming from the left, that Bush never lied.

Sometimes a liberal does speak the truth.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Chris_ on June 17, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
Well, that is quite a remarkable acknowledgement, coming from the left, that Bush never lied.

Sometimes a liberal does speak the truth.

As does a blind squirrel occasionally find the nut.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Airwolf on June 21, 2008, 07:30:38 PM
Does theis mean that old Scotty (Scott McClelland" is going to have some 'splaining to do before Congress?
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: NHSparky on June 21, 2008, 09:44:49 PM
Does theis mean that old Scotty (Scott McClelland" is going to have some 'splaining to do before Congress?

Nah--he and Bob Wexler were playing the "Larry Craig Toe-Tap" to completion, and dammed if the Republicans are going to have the stones to actually CALL him on it.
Title: Re: New Republic editor:Bush never lied to us about Iraq
Post by: Peter3_1 on June 22, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
I trhink that the thing Rep/Cons. are looking for in our politicians is a strength of character, open honesty, and a moral core. That core enabeling them to state their minds clearly with principle and to openly oppose propaganda driven issues.

Be willing to discuss issues with their "base" and acknowledge when an idea might have min mistaken. McCain's openness to increasing domestic oil production being a very good case inj point.

The longer they waffel, the longer they will fail to lead.