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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on July 12, 2013, 07:01:47 AM
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JEFF9K (293 posts)
WHAT'S THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION ON ZIMMERMAN? WHAT'S THE LIBERAL POSITION?
The Zimmerman trial gets more play on political talk shows and political forums than any other topic, but why is it even considered to be political?
There was an altercation, someone was shot dead, and there are various accounts, opinions, and speculation about what happened that will be sorted out in a court of law.
Yet some people are saying it's political and that the Republican position is “innocent,†while the Democratic position is “guilty.â€
It seems to me that the conservative position has always been that Zimmerman is innocent and that the liberal position is to let the courts decide.
Which of these positions would the Founding Fathers have taken? “Innocent,†“guilty,†or “let the courts decide?â€
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251315234
Seriously, the liberal position is to let the courts decide? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
OMG DUmmy you fools convicted Zimmerman since the first time you heard about Saint Skittles.
You are the ones who will possibly riot if the verdict is not what you want it to be.
You are the ones who pushed like hell and forced a prosecution for this.
You are the ones who twisted everything around to paint Zimmerman as a huge racist, and Saint Skittles as nothing but an innocent child.
Conservatives are the ones who for the most part waited for information to come out, and in fact I have said if Zimmerman is guilty of murder he should be convicted. All the evidence so far seems to point out that Trayvon was a thug who was threatening Zimmerman's life. You idiots say if Zimmerman gets off then that makes shooting black kids legal, the truth is if Zimmerman gets convicted then it makes it illegal for creepy ass crackers to defend themselves from sons who look like 0bama.
Star Member uppityperson (75,637 posts)
1. Mishandled from the beginning. eom
Yes it was starting with the editing of the tapes by NBC making it appear that Zimmerman said "He looks black" as if that was his concern. The truth was he said that when asked by the 911 dispatcher what race the kid was. Then 0bama opens his fat mouth and says if he had a son. Then Eric Holder chimed in saying that he may prosecute Zimmerman for civil rights violations. This whole thing stinks to high heaven thanks to all the race baiting from the left.
SoutherDem (2,176 posts)
5. Innocent till proven guilty decided by the courts
is my answer.
From the day it made the national media the two sides took their positions no matter any evidence and haven't swayed one bit.
However I can't agree the liberal side has been let the courts decide, it seem to me they feel he is guilty, I have heard a few who says he committed murder 1 because it was part of a master plan where he went hunting that day and Martin just happened to be the prey which walked across his crosshairs.
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Hippo_Tron (24,664 posts)
9. We should consider laws against vigilantes patrolling the neighborhood with loaded weapons
If the prosecution can't prove its case, Zimmerman will walk, as it should be. But even if he does walk, we have to consider that our current laws allowed Zimmerman to get out of his car and stalk Martin with a loaded weapon. Maybe Zimmerman wanted a confrontation so he could use that weapon and maybe he didn't. But either way, he got a confrontation. That signals to anyone who wants a confrontation that you can get one and get off scott free.
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JEFF9K
It seems to me that... the liberal position is to let the courts decide.
Do you idiots even read the site you post at?
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Seriously, the liberal position is to let the courts decide? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
What the fu.....dge?
"Let the courts decide"?
The primitives must not be taking the liberal position then, if that's what the liberal position is.
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The conservative position: Let the courts decide, but based on the evidence that has been made public knowledge, it appears that Zimmerman did indeed act in self- defense and thus should be acquitted.
The liberal position: Screw the evidence. Zimmerman was an evil white racist who deliberately targeted and murdered sweet, innocent little Trayvon because he hated black people and wanted to kill one. He should immediately be convicted of not 2nd degree but rather 1st degree murder, sentenced to life in prison without parole, and serve out a month of his sentence before being fatally shanked by a black inmate. If you don't agree with me on this, then you too are an evil white racist who hates black people. If he gets acquitted, we're going to "Party" like it's Los Angeles in 1992.
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Standing, kneeling or prone.......I am probably best in the prone position now days......OH! They mean....nevermind, it's the opposite of whatever the DUmmies are thinking.
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The conservative position is that the guilty should go to jail, the innocent should be set free and our court system should not be used to settle a score. That's what is happening here. The evidence backs Zimmerman's account. Charges should never have been filed.
Think about it like this. If Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin had ended up seriously injuring or killing him, would it be this big of a story on the news?
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The conservative position is that the guilty should go to jail, the innocent should be set free and our court system should not be used to settle a score. That's what is happening here. The evidence backs Zimmerman's account. Charges should never have been filed.
Think about it like this. If Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin had ended up seriously injuring or killing him, would it be this big of a story on the news?
It would have been, heroic young black youth rids the world of one racist cracker.
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Evidence vs race-baiting
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Exactly, Snugs.
That editing stunt by NBC was unbelievably egregious. I think they ought to be sued.
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Personally Al 'notso' Sharpton has already been wrong two times. This will make three and he should have been in jail for the two other times for fraud and murder.
The leftist position is the white Hispanic is always wrong and the black is not always right but always justified.
I'll say it again, if it had been Jorge Martinez this would never have been hyped by the media and the democrat party.
OAN, looks like the 0bama regime has been pressuring the judge.
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He posted the same exact thing here (http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/310882-whats-conservative-position-zimmerman-whats-liberal-position.html) as well.
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Wandered over to have a peek.
Page one of their GD forum has sixteen separate OP's declaring George guilty in one way or another.
The comments are for the most, all in agreement.
Yup, they're waiting for the jury to decide for sure. :thatsright:
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My husband just told me what happened in the Trayvon Martin...George Zimmerman encounter...
Trayvon Martin committed suicide by community watch commander....
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Down to thirteen now. Some are old, some are new.
Same old crap as before. :thatsright:
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If Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin had ended up seriously injuring or killing him, would it be this big of a story on the news?
No story. We had two white girls at a Halloween party attacked by a mob of minorities and they were almost beaten to death. I don't think it made national news. The system let the mob get by with barely a wrist slap. There was another hate crime murder in broad daylight. A black stabbed to death another black because he was gay. You would think that one would have been reported too, but it didn't even make the local news.
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The owebumaManiMedia has been representing the liberal side of the Zimmerman case quite well up until now.
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Liberal view: Jury nullification was ok for OJ but not for the White Hispanic Cracker Zimmerman.
Conservative view: Better judged by twelve than carried by six.
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A court shouldn't be deciding in the first place. Zimmerman shouldn't have been charged in the first place but the feds had to stick their racist asses where it doesn't belong, once again causing racial division. The fact that Zimmerman has also reported on white and Hispanic teen/people too and that he's volunteered to mentor minority children have never made it into the public discourse, thanks to the media having the same agenda as the WH. Oh, and Zimmerman is a "white" Hispanic. I do wonder why their aren't any voices in the Hispanic community speaking out for Zimmerman.
Besides, until the left cares just as much about black children dying every day in the inner city, then this is just the lastest, breathless issue that they run to. It's easy to pretend you're not racist (and everyone else is), while pedaling your condescending, soft racism to a community that doesn't need more ginned up rhetoric. One kid with a criminal record for BURGLARY beating the crap out of a man (Zimmerman DID NOT throw the first punch) vs. thousands of INNOCENT black children killed every single year because of rampant violence in their neighborhood? I know it's easier to throw them some welfare and ignore them because admitting black on black crime is an epidemic would mean admitting they're the true racists.
Cindie
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Well the conservative position is to use critical thinking skills based on facts to come to a conclusion on what they think the verdict should be.
The lib position is to immediately scream murder while ignoring any actual facts.