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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on July 11, 2013, 06:25:30 PM
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Looks like to goes to the jury soon. I think a verdict could happen within the next few days.
What will DU be like if George Zimmerman is found not guilty?
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0[/youtube]
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Hope they can wait until Monday when I get paid. I need to restock ammo.
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I think the only people who will know are those with moles, because I suspect DU will end up on lockdown.
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Fiddy on another thread hits a home run:
Yeah, a stand-your-ground state really is not a good place to get your riot on.
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Maybe it will be like...
(http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/11/EXCLUSIVE-Breitbart-News-Network-to-cover-DC-March-For-Jobs-Immigration-Rally-LIVE)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/11/EXCLUSIVE-Breitbart-News-Network-to-cover-DC-March-For-Jobs-Immigration-Rally-LIVE
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What will DU be like if George Zimmerman is found not guilty?
Mr. President, DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!
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Mr. President, DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!
He already sent his DOJ down to Sanford once, along with his public statement about Martin.
Yeah, that helped.
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He already sent his DOJ down to Sanford once, along with his public statement about Martin.
Yeah, that helped.
Didn't Eric Holder already say that he would prosecute Zimmerman for a civil rights violation, if this didn't go the way they're hoping?
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It will be a beautiful thing to watch.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
Let me explain what I mean by fear of repercussions.
The opinions on this case, at least to a degree, seem to be split along political lines. It appears that individuals who generally vote republican are leaning toward acquittal while individuals who generally vote democrat are leaning toward a guilty verdict.
In the recent past, individuals who generally vote democrat have shown themselves much more likely to riot and destroy things when not getting their way than have individuals who generally vote republican.
I think the above may influence the jurors, but I also hope that the jurors remember one thing that has not been mentioned. The very same "pro-democrat" individuals who riot and destroy things when not getting their way have also occasionally been willing to riot and destroy things in celebration when they do get their way.
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Well I plan on sacrificing ptarmigans.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
I tend to agree about the guilty part, but I don't think it will be for 2nd degree, it'll be for manslaughter.
The State hasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he acted with reckless disregard, but I think the jurors may come away with "Someone died in this altercation, therefore the shooter needs to be punished for something."
As for what happened, I think Z and TM had a verbal exchange, TM clocked him in the nose which stunned Z and put him on the ground, TM jumped on top and started pounding him, Z believed the kid wasn't going to quit and that he may die before help arrived and he shot him. To me, the evidence points that direction.
However, like I said the jury may decide that events should have never gone that far, that Z might have been acting in self defense but he could have avoided putting himself in that position in the first place, and since someone died they need to send a message that people need to be more careful in the future before they potentially place themselves in situations. That's just how people think.
And sorry ladies, but that they're all women puts a mother-child connection in play that is also there in a father-child relationship, but it's different, and I think we all know what that means when I say that. I say that because as women they're going to view this differently than men. I love and appreciate a woman's perspective, and I'm sure women do the same towards men. But that difference comes into play as we view life's events.
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If any guilty verdict is found it will be a travesty of justice.
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Didn't Eric Holder already say that he would prosecute Zimmerman for a civil rights violation, if this didn't go the way they're hoping?
Yes he did.
Technically he didn't say he would prosecute for sure, but he said he would look into it. Odds are if Eric "My People" Holder looks into it, he will find some reason to prosecute.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
Let me explain what I mean by fear of repercussions.
The opinions on this case, at least to a degree, seem to be split along political lines. It appears that individuals who generally vote republican are leaning toward acquittal while individuals who generally vote democrat are leaning toward a guilty verdict.
In the recent past, individuals who generally vote democrat have shown themselves much more likely to riot and destroy things when not getting their way than have individuals who generally vote republican.
I think the above may influence the jurors, but I also hope that the jurors remember one thing that has not been mentioned. The very same "pro-democrat" individuals who riot and destroy things when not getting their way have also occasionally been willing to riot and destroy things in celebration when they do get their way.
No BS from me for this. I think you might be right as I would not be surprised if a guilty verdict is made.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
Let me explain what I mean by fear of repercussions.
The opinions on this case, at least to a degree, seem to be split along political lines. It appears that individuals who generally vote republican are leaning toward acquittal while individuals who generally vote democrat are leaning toward a guilty verdict.
In the recent past, individuals who generally vote democrat have shown themselves much more likely to riot and destroy things when not getting their way than have individuals who generally vote republican.
I think the above may influence the jurors, but I also hope that the jurors remember one thing that has not been mentioned. The very same "pro-democrat" individuals who riot and destroy things when not getting their way have also occasionally been willing to riot and destroy things in celebration when they do get their way.
No BS from me either, I have had the same thought. I figure it is a huge possibility that fear could motivate the jurors to convict. They have to realize they will be in danger if they vote anything but guilty. If anyone thinks their identities will kept secret they are mistaken. Someone will reveal the names and addresses of the jurors if Saint Skittles doesn't get "justice".
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They have to realize they will be in danger if they vote anything but guilty.
If he's found guilty, the justice system is dead as it's apparently fallen victim to intimidation. A bunch of Obama sons threatening to go "wilding" if a verdict isn't reached in those bitches' favor isn't an excuse to throw our entire legal system out the window. Let'em riot. Many more will be following "Trayvon", most of which couldn't give a rat's ass about Trayvon, only wanting an excuse to riot. They've been told they're entitled for 4 decades and it's caused a division in this nation that we can't escape until the Damn media and politicians stop trying to pit one group against the other. They're nothing but ****ing pawns for political careers and headlines. Most that are threatening this shit are just too Damn stupid to know they're being played as pawns. You knew damn well what they were doing by labeling him a "White Hispanic". If he'd have been the victim, and the perpetrator white, he'd have been a Hispanic. Our politicians and our media are setting us up for a major ****ing catastrophe. Keep your powder dry.
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IMHO and I was following on Legal Insurrection, the prosecution's case was not just weak but it was almost as good for George as the defense's case. Either way this goes, it means more black on white crime because they will feel justified or know they can get away with it.
From a nation of laws to a nation of men in less than five years. Amazing what can be done if 99.9% of the media is with you pushing an agenda.
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For 2-3 days there'll be the obligatory feigned outrage that maintains their street cred as "sympathetic to the struggle of black Americans", declarations that civil rights are dead in this country, renewed calls for repeal of the Second Amendment, wishes for the evil (White!)Hispanic guy to be murdered on the street by black strangers in the cause of "justice", etc.
You know. The usual DU stuff.
Then they'll quickly be distracted by revisiting other recent shiny objects like Benghazi, the IRS, and the NSA (if the MSM hasn't decided to use the Zimmerman distraction as a device to move on past those minor points), and poor, poor St. Trayvon Of Skittles and his poor, poor grieving family will become a footnote in the DU archives. Something to reminisce about when they are weary of furrowing their brows over the really inportant matters of our time like marrying queers, banning smoking, and making sure EBT users aren't embarrassed by having to present ID.
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If he's found guilty, the justice system is dead as it's apparently fallen victim to intimidation. A bunch of Obama sons threatening to go "wilding" if a verdict isn't reached in those bitches' favor isn't an excuse to throw our entire legal system out the window. Let'em riot. Many more will be following "Trayvon", most of which couldn't give a rat's ass about Trayvon, only wanting an excuse to riot. They've been told they're entitled for 4 decades and it's caused a division in this nation that we can't escape until the Damn media and politicians stop trying to pit one group against the other. They're nothing but ****ing pawns for political careers and headlines. Most that are threatening this shit are just too Damn stupid to know they're being played as pawns. You knew damn well what they were doing by labeling him a "White Hispanic". If he'd have been the victim, and the perpetrator white, he'd have been a Hispanic. Our politicians and our media are setting us up for a major ****ing catastrophe. Keep your powder dry.
One might say it became terminal when Zimmerman was first charged for those very same reasons - not because there was sufficient evidence to bring a case, but simply as a matter of public relations to keep certain civil rights "leaders", both government and private, from stirring shit.
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there will be several threads of foaming at the mouth.
I think they get off on it too.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
Let me explain what I mean by fear of repercussions.
The opinions on this case, at least to a degree, seem to be split along political lines. It appears that individuals who generally vote republican are leaning toward acquittal while individuals who generally vote democrat are leaning toward a guilty verdict.
In the recent past, individuals who generally vote democrat have shown themselves much more likely to riot and destroy things when not getting their way than have individuals who generally vote republican.
I think the above may influence the jurors, but I also hope that the jurors remember one thing that has not been mentioned. The very same "pro-democrat" individuals who riot and destroy things when not getting their way have also occasionally been willing to riot and destroy things in celebration when they do get their way.
I'm leaning toward him being convicted myself. Not based on the evidence, but the judge letting the prosecution get away with a lot of stuff that will get overturned on appeal. The real question will be if the judge sends him to prison while the appeals go thru.
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This will may result in a machine-gun blast of bitchslaps, but I'm going to post it anyway.
I still think there is a very good chance that he will be found guilty.
I've watched a large portion of the trial. Based on the evidence presented, even by the prosecution, I really don't see how any reasonable person could find him guilty; however, I'm afraid the jurors may make their decision based on the fear of repercussions.
Let me explain what I mean by fear of repercussions.
The opinions on this case, at least to a degree, seem to be split along political lines. It appears that individuals who generally vote republican are leaning toward acquittal while individuals who generally vote democrat are leaning toward a guilty verdict.
In the recent past, individuals who generally vote democrat have shown themselves much more likely to riot and destroy things when not getting their way than have individuals who generally vote republican.
I think the above may influence the jurors, but I also hope that the jurors remember one thing that has not been mentioned. The very same "pro-democrat" individuals who riot and destroy things when not getting their way have also occasionally been willing to riot and destroy things in celebration when they do get their way.
I would not rule out a guilty verdict either. People riot over wins. If he was found guilty of manslaughter, he could get probation.
The way the judge and prosecutor behaved is grounds for appeal.
I think a hung jury is likely. Regardless of guilty or not, George Zimmerman is screwed.
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Looks like the jury is deliberating right now. I was flipping thru the channels and landed on one of the news channels and according to them they are deliberating.
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I guess we will soon find out.
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I guess we will soon find out.
We are gonna find out now. He was found innocent. MSNBC is spitting blood.
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I'm locking down the house, and have double checked personal protection.
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I'm locking down the house, and have double checked personal protection.
Those two steps should be SOP anyway.
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For 2-3 days there'll be the obligatory feigned outrage that maintains their street cred as "sympathetic to the struggle of black Americans", declarations that civil rights are dead in this country, renewed calls for repeal of the Second Amendment, wishes for the evil (White!) Hispanic guy to be murdered on the street by black strangers in the cause of "justice", etc.
You know. The usual DU stuff.
Then they'll quickly be distracted by revisiting other recent shiny objects like Benghazi, the IRS, and the NSA (if the MSM hasn't decided to use the Zimmerman distraction as a device to move on past those minor points), and poor, poor St. Trayvon Of Skittles and his poor, poor grieving family will become a footnote in the DU archives. Something to reminisce about when they are weary of furrowing their brows over the really inportant matters of our time like marrying queers, banning smoking, and making sure EBT users aren't embarrassed by having to present ID.
Uh huh.
Here it is, sixteen hours after the verdict, and the primitives seem to be already looking around for some new toy to occupy their half-second attention spans.