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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on July 11, 2013, 02:17:58 PM
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Those wacky Xtians are at it again, shoving their religion down everyone's throat along with the overpriced coffee:
Pretzel_Warrior (922 posts)
I hate when people pray over their food aloud in public
Sitting in Starbucks, this couple sits down next toe with their bagel and coffee and hold hands across the table and start praying quite loudly to their God for their fine mid morning snack. Ugh!!
I get it. You love your God. But supposedly he can hear your silent prayers too. Don't under estimate the magical powers of your God.
And if you were trying to "bear witness" to your faith...it had opposite of the intended effect.
Yours truly, non religious agnostic just trying to enjoy his coffee and newspaper in peace.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023224611
There's nothing like a visible display of faith from Christians to get the DU bile flowing.
Apophis (1,220 posts)
1. People who pray aloud in public are doing it to be attention whores.
Nothing more.
Star Member Aerows (15,326 posts)
55. Even the Bible says you should pray
at home in the quiet rather than in public to "prove" how devout you are.
enki23 (7,197 posts)
155. "Matt 6:5 is about praying hypocrites..." who we are enjoined to recognize by their public prayer.
And further evidence is found just a couple of verses later, when Jesus explicitly commands people to do their praying behind closed doors.
"If you paste these three words here with this phrase in Ezekiel and squint real hard at it from a ninety degree angle it says exactly what I want it all to say." Says every Christian ever.
I'm convinced that verse from Matthew is the only Bible verse the DUmmies know, and they carry it around in their pocket on a laminated card like some cops do the Miranda Warnings, so they can be sure not to quote it incorrectly, even though they don't have an inkling of what it really means.
frylock (19,974 posts)
223. matthew 6:6..
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
There it is again. Once is never enough.
kestrel91316 (46,007 posts)
192. And they are defying Jesus, who said when you pray, go pray IN YOUR CLOSET.
He hated people who made a big public show of prayer.
And again. So many Bible scholars among the DU atheists.
BlueJazz (18,046 posts)
33. Sorry..That's not the point. The point is: A lot of people are sick and tired of extreme Christens
..constantly trying to force their views on life into our laws and bedroom and marriage and just about everything else.
We-are-sick-of-it. Fed up. SO...it's NOT really because they prayed at a coffee house...It's because these same people will probably cause some Woman to have a back-ally abortion.
BlueJazz (18,046 posts)
81. Again..THE POINT IS : These people (yes..these people) ..most likely...are the type of people who
...have caused more human suffering and sadness by consistently voting for the type of person who is:
1. Not very smart
2. Is mentally ill
3. Tries to force their Bible and beliefs on the rest of us.
4. Hates or is ignorant of science
5. Believes some really, really strange shit. (A talking snake?????)
I'm kind to them but if they start with their crazy-ass-crap ?....I get in their face.
Yeah, sure you do, peachfuzz.
cilla4progress (3,009 posts)
17. Don't ask don't tell
about your extreme religiosity. I miss that...
LibAsHell (75 posts)
60. Wrong? No.
Obnoxious? Hell-****ing-yes.
brooklynite (13,200 posts)
62. next time it happens, LOUDLY read from the Bible...
"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (Matthew 6:6)
Now there's an original thought.
Cali_Democrat (15,725 posts)
82. To be honest with you
I don't think I've ever seen that in public. I would find it somewhat creepy.
upaloopa (2,213 posts)
115. I agree it is annoying and shows a lack of consideration
We put up with a lot from them yet we are accused of being in the wrong. I hate proselytizing. You should be invited into other people's space not just shove your shit in their face.
HockeyMom (10,960 posts)
122. Get up, give them a dirty look,
and change your table. Ok, they have their right to pray, but you also have a right to not listen to it. You are not a captive audience to anyone's praying.
RoccoR5955 (6,575 posts)
229. When that happens...
I shout RAMEN! at the top of my lungs,
And ask everyone to say a prayer to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and ask that they all be touched by his noodly appendages!
Ahh, that good old DU tolerance, shining through again.
To be honest, some DUmmies deride the poor put-upon OP's sensitivity.
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Matthew 18:20 - For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
You can find a Bible verse for anything and everything. Then take it out of context and call yourself a DUmbass.
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It is funny when you hear an atheist lesbian quote the Holy Bible. I don't think these people have a problem hearing people wail to Mecca five times a day.
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Pretzel_Warrior (922 posts)
I hate when people pray over their food aloud in public
Sitting in Starbucks, this couple sits down next toe with their bagel and coffee and hold hands across the table and start praying quite loudly to their God for their fine mid morning snack. Ugh!!
I get it. You love your God. But supposedly he can hear your silent prayers too. Don't under estimate the magical powers of your God.
And if you were trying to "bear witness" to your faith...it had opposite of the intended effect.
Yours truly, non religious agnostic just trying to enjoy his coffee and newspaper in peace.
I hate it when you breathe. :mad:
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It is funny when you hear an atheist lesbian quote the Holy Bible. I don't think these people have a problem hearing people wail to Mecca five times a day.
Our white-negro president thinks the muslim call to prayer is one of the most prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.
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Our white-negro president thinks the muslim call to prayer is one of the most prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.
I hate it when he breathes too. :whatever:
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I ****ing hate it when people who aren't liberal atheist commies are allowed to walk the streets in daytime.</du>
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I am not religious and I have no problem with people praying out in public.
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I'm sure these people are opposed to any benedictions, opening or closing prayers. Not to mention chaplains.
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I hate it when you breathe. :mad:
Me too.
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BlueJazz (18,046 posts)
33. Sorry..That's not the point. The point is: A lot of people are sick and tired of extreme Mooslimes
..constantly trying to force their views on life into our laws and bedroom and marriage and just about everything else.
We-are-sick-of-it. Fed up. SO...it's NOT really because they prayed at a coffee house...It's because these same people will probably cause some Woman to have a back-ally abortion.
A tiny bit of fixing. Closer to truth.
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RoccoR5955 (6,575 posts)
229. When that happens...
I shout RAMEN! at the top of my lungs,
And ask everyone to say a prayer to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and ask that they all be touched by his noodly appendages!
Liar. :bs:
You'd be escorted out, and you know it.
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..And not one primitive had anything to say about devout Muslims who will drop what they are doing and pray when its time.
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They weren't praying, they were asking God to bless their meal and giving thanks to the Lord for their food. Jesus him self did this at the last supper (Luke 22:17 and Luke 22:19).
Libs really should read the Bible before they comment on it. It's a lot me reading a few passage of Plato and thinking I'm an expert in Greek philosophy. Public displays of ignorance is really unbecoming of the self-professed elite.
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They weren't praying, they were asking God to bless their meal and giving thanks to the Lord for their food. Jesus him self did this at the last supper (Luke 22:17 and Luke 22:19).
Libs really should read the Bible before they comment on it. It's a lot me me reading a few passage of Plato and thinking I'm an expert in Greek philosophy. Public displays of ignorance is really unbecoming of the self-professed elite.
But DUmmies claim to know everything.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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..And not one primitive had anything to say about devout Muslims who will drop what they are doing and pray when its time.
Muslims block the streets and sidewalks to pray, the US government has spent millions building them foot baths and their own prayer rooms at airports.....why don't the DUmmies bitch about that......are they afraid they might lose their heads or something.
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Response to demosincebirth (Reply #262)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
bike man (601 posts)
323. Is there a difference between an offering of thanks for the meal and actual prayer, or communion, with whatever deity/belief system one has chosen? Reading about the Sermon on the Mount, thanks was given for the bread/fish.
If so, then the Matthew reference that so many get all quote-y over, does not apply to the meal reference but does to the the communion one.
The hypocrites mentioned in the Matthew reference are doing their 'praying' in an ostentatious manner, and that is what is being enjoined against.
Interestingly, Congress begins sessions with a prayer. I recall there being one from time to time at inauguration ceremonies. Perhaps a petition/email/letter writing campaign should begin forthwith.
But on the other hand, what does it hurt?
No one ever mentions the line about not hiding your light under a bushel, but put it on a stand so that all can see. Is it possible that this 'light' can be one's faith/belief? That's in Matthew also, but it doesn't get all quoted up in this kind of thread.
And FYI, I am a non-believer.
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But DUmmies claim to know everything.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
The primitives should consider that.
I'd rather be thought a fool, than post on DU, and remove all doubt.
:cheersmate: BTW
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I tend to agree with the DUmmies on one point.
People who pray loudly in public restaurants think they are bearing witness to the surrounding heathens.
In fact they accomplish the opposite and just come across as annoying and ostentatious.
Of course the vast majority of Christians are perceptive enough to realize that.
I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen it happen, with fingers left over.
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I have never encountered a Christian praying loudly in a public restaurant. I have heard them say grace loudly when they are seated at a large table with many people. This is pretty much so they can be heard at the other end of the table in a crowded noisy restaurant and they intend no disrespect to those sitting near them.
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I'd like for the people who are eating at the coffee shops to have bathed before they came, but I doubt I can get that promise out of the Pretzel_Warrior primitive.
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I have never encountered a Christian praying loudly in a public restaurant. I have heard them say grace loudly when they are seated at a large table with many people. This is pretty much so they can be heard at the other end of the table in a crowded noisy restaurant and they intend no disrespect to those sitting near them.
I agree. I have heard people pray quietly. Even though I'm not with them I stop talking and bow my own head until they are done praying. I guess I'm a intolerant fundie rethug or something.
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I have seen families discreetly bow their heads for a thankful 5 seconds , and begin chowing. I have no problem with that.
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I agree. I have heard people pray quietly. Even though I'm not with them I stop talking and bow my own head until they are done praying. I guess I'm a intolerant fundie rethug or something.
Do the same. Doesn't bother me at all.
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I'd only complain if Bonnie Fwank was doing it with all that spitting sputtering he does.
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I agree. I have heard people pray quietly. Even though I'm not with them I stop talking and bow my own head until they are done praying. I guess I'm a intolerant fundie rethug or something.
The world could use a few more intolerant fundies :)
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How about you ignore them you monstrosity of a human being.
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I have never encountered a Christian praying loudly in a public restaurant.
Maybe they were reading from the Amplified Bible:
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Muslims block the streets and sidewalks to pray, the US government has spent millions building them foot baths and their own prayer rooms at airports.....why don't the DUmmies bitch about that......are they afraid they might lose their heads or something.
...or fly planes into buildings or bomb embassies or shoot up a bunch of troops on an army installation...
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Just how loud were they praying? It's one thing if they're shouting, it's another thing when they're just normally talking, or even whispering.
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Muslims block the streets and sidewalks to pray, the US government has spent millions building them foot baths and their own prayer rooms at airports.....why don't the DUmmies bitch about that......are they afraid they might lose their heads or something.
DUmbasses are cowards, every last one of them.
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I hate when people pray over their foodstamps. I don't have to hate it very often though.
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Something tells me that if we protest a bunch of Muzzies who want to have those hideous calls to prayer the DUmbasses would be calling us racists.
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Something tells me that if we protest a bunch of Muzzies who want to have those hideous calls to prayer the DUmbasses would be calling us racists.
You know they would. They're lying, cowardly, hypocritical ****s who will take any position, regardless of how contradictory, to push their own political goals. And those goals almost always have to do solely with their own licentiousness and greed, no matter how noble they try to frame them.
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Pretzel_Warrior (922 posts)
I hate when people pray over their food aloud in public
Sitting in Starbucks, this couple sits down next toe with their bagel and coffee and hold hands across the table and start praying quite loudly to their God for their fine mid morning snack. Ugh!!
I get it. You love your God. But supposedly he can hear your silent prayers too. Don't under estimate the magical powers of your God.
And if you were trying to "bear witness" to your faith...it had opposite of the intended effect.
Yours truly, non religious agnostic just trying to enjoy his coffee and newspaper in peace.
Personally I do not care one way or the other dummie. I hate people who think they are so god awful important they have to talk on their cell phones in the grocery store line but I don't go on a board and bitch about it.
Now as for praying in public, I follow the bible on that. Don't know which passage it was now... it said to pray to God in private. To publicly display your... whatever the term was in that passage, can't remember... was not favorable in God's eye.
My 2 cents now dummy... if that is the only thing wrong in your world then if I was you I'd be thankful.
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BlueJazz (18,046 posts)
33. Sorry..That's not the point. The point is: A lot of people are sick and tired of extreme Christens
..constantly trying to force their views on life into our laws and bedroom and marriage and just about everything else.
We-are-sick-of-it. Fed up. SO...it's NOT really because they prayed at a coffee house...It's because these same people will probably cause some Woman to have a back-ally abortion.
Everything is about abortion with this BlueJazz primitive. Hmmmmm....I must ponder.
Something tells me that if we protest a bunch of Muzzies who want to have those hideous calls to prayer the DUmbasses would be calling us racists.
In a heartbeat.
(http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/victim_of_muslim_gang_rape_in_sweden.gif?w=450)
Screw you, 7th century troglodytes and that abortion you call a religion.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:07 PM
bike man (601 posts)
323. Is there a difference between an offering of thanks for the meal and actual prayer, or communion, with whatever deity/belief system one has chosen? Reading about the Sermon on the Mount, thanks was given for the bread/fish.
If so, then the Matthew reference that so many get all quote-y over, does not apply to the meal reference but does to the the communion one.
The hypocrites mentioned in the Matthew reference are doing their 'praying' in an ostentatious manner, and that is what is being enjoined against.
Interestingly, Congress begins sessions with a prayer. I recall there being one from time to time at inauguration ceremonies. Perhaps a petition/email/letter writing campaign should begin forthwith.
But on the other hand, what does it hurt?
No one ever mentions the line about not hiding your light under a bushel, but put it on a stand so that all can see. Is it possible that this 'light' can be one's faith/belief? That's in Matthew also, but it doesn't get all quoted up in this kind of thread.
And FYI, I am a non-believer.
Blasphemer.
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5058622120527491&pid=1.7)
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Personally I do not care one way or the other dummie. I hate people who think they are so god awful important they have to talk on their cell phones in the grocery store line but I don't go on a board and bitch about it.
Now as for praying in public, I follow the bible on that. Don't know which passage it was now... it said to pray to God in private. To publicly display your... whatever the term was in that passage, can't remember... was not favorable in God's eye.
My 2 cents now dummy... if that is the only thing wrong in your world then if I was you I'd be thankful.
God doesn't put prohibitions on public prayer. He does, however, look down on it when it is done for the purposes of drawing attention to one's self in a showy display of piety. I point out that Jesus prayed in public several times in order to glorify God. He prayed aloud at the tomb of Lazarus:
And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me.
I knew that you always hear me, but I said this on account of the people standing around, that they may believe that you sent me."
John 11:41b-42.
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God doesn't put prohibitions on public prayer. He does, however, look down on it when it is done for the purposes of drawing attention to one's self in a showy display of piety.
That was what I was talking about.
Just to be clear there FlaGator I didn't mean that God meant that you couldn't pray in public. If that was true then there would be no funerals, Sunday services, etc. :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
I point out that Jesus prayed in public several times in order to glorify God. He prayed aloud at the tomb of Lazarus:
And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me.
I knew that you always hear me, but I said this on account of the people standing around, that they may believe that you sent me."
John 11:41b-42.
We ain't Jesus. :tongue: :tongue:
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God doesn't put prohibitions on public prayer. He does, however, look down on it when it is done for the purposes of drawing attention to one's self in a showy display of piety.
:hi5:
Exactly.
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Something tells me that if we protest a bunch of Muzzies who want to have those hideous calls to prayer the DUmbasses would be calling us racists.
Yes, of course.