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Title: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 11, 2013, 09:24:03 AM
We have had so much rain this summer... TVA is LOWERING their rates to the power companies, in turn our power company is LOWERING our electrical rates in mid summer!

Local meteorologist said this year is closing in on the wetting year ever which was 1875.... as he pointed out, Ulysses S Grant was president!

That YEAR, we received 73.77 inches of rain.

As of 8pm last night... a little over half way through the year... we have gotten 45.82 inches. (ha! a heck of a lot more at my house!).

Only 27.95 more inches needed to surpass the all-time record!

More rain is predicted today... then we are actually supposed to have a Friday AND Saturday - with no rain.
Rain is supposed to start again on Sunday...predicted in the inches through Tuesday, then just scattered the rest of the week.

He said this rain, rain, rain weather pattern is predicted through "at least the middle of August! We've been in this "pattern" since last fall. This is E Tn, not Seattle!

Shallow-root trees are falling, rock and mud slides are happening, basements are wet, roofs are collapsing from weight of water, vegetables in gardens are rotting from so much rain, everything is mildewy or getting really moldy, LOTS of car accidents, and the mosquitoes are reproducing at alarming rates and it's too wet to spray for them...

It is super green though... along with the rain, the temps have been in the 80-90's.  Lots of "steam" and fogginess.

Can't imagine having to entertain small children in this weather. Choices are limited: drag them to the mall, movies (which are very expensive these days), to the grocery store (where they are either running wild or screaming in carts). Inside activities at home, day in day out, parents run out of ideas. Even adults are getting fed up with the constant rain... normally in the summer here... people are going crazy from the heat... now they are from all the rain!

Outside stuff just isn't working out too well. Many of the "outside" businesses are really suffering this summer. Restaurants, golf courses, marinas, pay-for water activities (rafting, tubing, canoeing - rivers are too full). It's been really tough on businesses up in Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg as they have had more rain than we have.... and it's tourist heaven up there.

I know in years past... when we have had a drought or the midwest has... grain and hay has been exchanged to feed stock animals.

Too bad no one's figured out a way to ship LOTS of water... we could send it west...

I really hate gray and gloomy.  :(



Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 11, 2013, 09:41:49 AM
Same here in SC....my tomatoes are turning yellow and the tomatoes are splitting due to much water .....the squash look just as bad and I can't plant my late peas because the garden is pure soup....not mud, soup.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Freeper on July 11, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Global warming!
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Dori on July 11, 2013, 10:46:50 AM
I really hate gray and gloomy. 

I hear you.

We never get much rain, but two summers ago it was overcast and grey all season.  The garden didn't do well at all.


Same here in SC....my tomatoes are turning yellow and the tomatoes are splitting due to much water .....the squash look just as bad and I can't plant my late peas because the garden is pure soup....not mud, soup.

Are they splitting at the yellow stage?  Try picking a few of them and put them in a dry place to finish ripening.  I've read that if the inside of the tomato has a sticky membrane and the seed have turned hard that they will ripen at that stage.   I put mine on the window ledge and they ripen in a couple of days, but that might be too hot where you live.

Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 11, 2013, 10:58:45 AM
Lakes Michigan and Huron are supposed to gain about 2' this year.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: obumazombie on July 11, 2013, 11:09:38 AM
Global warming!
Wasn't the anointed one supposed to cause the waters to recede ?
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 11, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
I hear you.

We never get much rain, but two summers ago it was overcast and grey all season.  The garden didn't do well at all.


Are they splitting at the yellow stage?  Try picking a few of them and put them in a dry place to finish ripening.  I've read that if the inside of the tomato has a sticky membrane and the seed have turned hard that they will ripen at that stage.   I put mine on the window ledge and they ripen in a couple of days, but that might be too hot where you live.



I picked the good yellow ones but most are green when they split top to bottom.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 11, 2013, 12:51:04 PM
We had a deluge yesterday about 3 PM--we got half an inch of rain in six minutes!  One of our resident smartasses was out on a gold course at the time, and he said that in his cart heading for the clubhouse, he had to put his umbrella out to the side to keep the horizontal rain from getting in the cart.  It kept the occupants of the cart somewhat drier than other foursomes out there. 

At work, as I was looking out the windows at the sheets of rain coming down, I thought I saw the resident squirrels pairing up and going off towards a big boat in the distance. :whistling: O-)
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 11, 2013, 01:27:38 PM
I do not know...what is this rain of which you speak?   :???:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 11, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
It's raining again.... :bawl:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 11, 2013, 05:17:53 PM
It's raining again.... :bawl:
The bottom just fell out here too......and a tropical storm is headed our way in a few days.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 11, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
The bottom just fell out here too......and a tropical storm is headed our way in a few days.


"Chantal"? Yeah... weather guy just mentioned it may affect us too.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: seahorse513 on July 11, 2013, 06:00:45 PM
We are getting poured upon as well .when it isn't raining, it is like a sauna! Humidity and squiters. Due to overwhelming rain, we have mutant mosquitos! I feel I should warn Sparky and Krista!
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Chris_ on July 11, 2013, 07:17:03 PM
It's raining again.... :bawl:
We got a deluge about 3pm.  It only lasted for half an hour, but it knocked out our power twice.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Lacarnut on July 11, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
I do not know...what is this rain of which you speak?   :???:

Same here in big B.R. However, hurricane season has started. ugh.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 11, 2013, 08:39:51 PM
Same here in big B.R. However, hurricane season has started. ugh.

I got excited today.  Skies turned grey...I heard thunder.  And then the rain got sucked up into the sky backwards.  Lakes are down 18 feet in some places.  Water restrictions are on full force, only one day of watering lawns.  Screw the lawn, I water my garden only.  Vegetables, mind you.  Everything is crunchy, and yet the West Nile bearing skeeters are everywhere?  I thought they only liked MOIST conditions?   :???: 
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 12, 2013, 02:27:46 AM
Everything is crunchy, and yet the West Nile bearing skeeters are everywhere?  I thought they only liked MOIST conditions?   :???: 

Moist, like in old tires, animal watering holes, etc.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 12, 2013, 07:56:54 AM
Moist, like in old tires, animal watering holes, etc.

They done dried up.   :-)   It's crunchy here.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Mike220 on July 12, 2013, 07:59:46 AM
I got excited today.  Skies turned grey...I heard thunder.  And then the rain got sucked up into the sky backwards.  Lakes are down 18 feet in some places.  Water restrictions are on full force, only one day of watering lawns.  Screw the lawn, I water my garden only.  Vegetables, mind you.  Everything is crunchy, and yet the West Nile bearing skeeters are everywhere?  I thought they only liked MOIST conditions?   :???: 

Really? We got a bunch of rain in the Plano area. It rained for at least an hour. Guess we got lucky. :tongue:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 12, 2013, 08:02:05 AM
Another 3 inches last night.....I'm getting web feet.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Mike B the Cajun on July 12, 2013, 08:05:41 AM
I do not know...what is this rain of which you speak?   :???:

How soon they forget...    :-)
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 12, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
Really? We got a bunch of rain in the Plano area. It rained for at least an hour. Guess we got lucky. :tongue:

Woo Woo. 
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 12, 2013, 09:36:49 AM
They done dried up.   :-)   It's crunchy here.

You'd probably be surprised how little water they need to reproduce.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 12, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
You'd probably be surprised how little water they need to reproduce.

There have already been West Nile cases here this summer.

The county was supposed to be out the other day, spraying specific areas, but I don't know if they got to it or not, because it rained...

Sun is out  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: and supposed to be through tomorrow...  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Humidity is supposed to go down too, maybe we can do some drying out.

I've been looking checking Craig'slist for a carpenter with ark building skills....
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 12, 2013, 12:05:34 PM
There have already been West Nile cases here this summer.

The county was supposed to be out the other day, spraying specific areas, but I don't know if they got to it or not, because it rained...

Sun is out  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: and supposed to be through tomorrow...  :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Humidity is supposed to go down too, maybe we can do some drying out.

I've been looking checking Craig'slist for a carpenter with ark building skills....

No cases around here, at least that I know of.

Now it's sunny, low humdrumidity, pleasant.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 12, 2013, 12:21:43 PM
It's raining again here.....flash flood warnings for the rest of the day......and I ain't even got a decent inner tube I can pump up. Damn tubeless tires.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 15, 2013, 11:42:14 AM
So much for the no rain weekend.

Rained Saturday... those spotty ones, that if they hit where you were, it was a deluge. BFF and I drove up to NE TN to see her daughter, SIL & granddaughter...and exploring the area. We didn't run into any rain, but everything was wet when we got home. I thought maybe it had rained not long before we got home, cause the streets and grass were wet and there were puddles. Got home about 9, M said it rained around 6. Everything is just so wet, 3 hours and 80 degrees still didn't dry things up.

Rained yesterday. I watched it pouring across the street, and sprinky dinkin' here...took about 5 minutes for the deluge to make it across the street.

Supposed to be in the 90's this week... very humid with spotty showers... no torrential rain expected until Friday -Saturday -Sunday...

At the rate we're going, we should hit the all time yearly record about October.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 15, 2013, 08:24:27 PM
OMG!  Today, midway through July it was raining, and the high was 80 degrees!  Lord help me!  Chirrens were dancing in the street!
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: longview on July 15, 2013, 09:40:48 PM
OMG!  Today, midway through July it was raining, and the high was 80 degrees!  Lord help me!  Chirrens were dancing in the street!

Yay!  Happy for you and all the chirrens!  lol

From a Columbia University report which explains the relation of WNV and drought:

"Throughout the world there are cycles of drought and rainfall, it is only when egregious droughts occur that endemic reservoirs for vector species die-off and the vector is forced to human or livestock hosts. This is compounded as more and more humans enter endemic systems more frequently. Birds on wing are able to leave the areas where water is lacking; mosquitoes go dormant some even require a cycling of drought and moisture for their eggs to hatch. In New York in 1999 there was an unusual drought. Birds flew away and mosquitoes were forced to the remaining standing bodies of water most of which were urban. Unattended pools and the plethora of urban floral attentions, including those at public zoos and gardens, create ideal habitats for both aviphilic and anthrophilic mosquitoes. When late summer rain does arrive the mosquito population booms and without one of their major natural predators, birds, the females, seeking a protein source, blood, for their eggs, are voracious. At this point transmission is just a matter of odds: one female mosquito, infected with West Nile and without an avian source of blood, had to bite and infect one human or even house pet.

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/cerc/danoff-burg/invasion_bio/inv_spp_summ/WestNile.html

I was very interested in this when we had a bad outbreak here in WY where we get maybe 10" of precip in a year!  I got WNV. 
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 16, 2013, 07:00:11 AM
Yay!  Happy for you and all the chirrens!  lol

From a Columbia University report which explains the relation of WNV and drought:

"Throughout the world there are cycles of drought and rainfall, it is only when egregious droughts occur that endemic reservoirs for vector species die-off and the vector is forced to human or livestock hosts. This is compounded as more and more humans enter endemic systems more frequently. Birds on wing are able to leave the areas where water is lacking; mosquitoes go dormant some even require a cycling of drought and moisture for their eggs to hatch. In New York in 1999 there was an unusual drought. Birds flew away and mosquitoes were forced to the remaining standing bodies of water most of which were urban. Unattended pools and the plethora of urban floral attentions, including those at public zoos and gardens, create ideal habitats for both aviphilic and anthrophilic mosquitoes. When late summer rain does arrive the mosquito population booms and without one of their major natural predators, birds, the females, seeking a protein source, blood, for their eggs, are voracious. At this point transmission is just a matter of odds: one female mosquito, infected with West Nile and without an avian source of blood, had to bite and infect one human or even house pet.

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/cerc/danoff-burg/invasion_bio/inv_spp_summ/WestNile.html

I was very interested in this when we had a bad outbreak here in WY where we get maybe 10" of precip in a year!  I got WNV. 

Thanks LV, makes a lot of sense.  I loathe Mosquitoes. 
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 16, 2013, 08:39:23 AM
Bone dry and hot/humid here for about 1.5 weeks. Grass is drying up.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: obumazombie on July 16, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
I can't stand mosquitos either. The sound their buzzing wings make is at the perfect frequency to aggravate and agitate. I sure hope I don't get WNV.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: vesta111 on July 16, 2013, 05:47:08 PM
I can't stand mosquitos either. The sound their buzzing wings make is at the perfect frequency to aggravate and agitate. I sure hope I don't get WNV.


Strange, I live just up the street from Sea and so far not seen any mosquito's, wasps or hornets.

I planted a big English Garden full of wild flowers, love these darn things as no weeding needed, and have seen quite a few Honey Bees visiting my garden.     Must be new age Bees as they head straight for the poppies, they are too small to tell if they have a opium pipe on them but the honey must be interesting.

We do have some odd wild plants growing in the yard, first noticed them a couple years ago.   These suckers have very large leaves and a spike grows out of them that shoots up 3 feet high with small buds that produce small yellow flowers.  I have yet to know what the heck these plants are, Mom says they could come from a bird dropping as the birds migrates around.   Neither drought or flood seems to effect these plants----------Darn my daughter mentioned Pod People and Little Shop of Horrors to me when I asked her openion.      Strange part is these plants only grow around our deck, not in the open yard.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 16, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
Birds will crap seeds they ate from somewhere else, and then you have crazy plants.  That's how I end up with thistle every year.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: seahorse513 on July 16, 2013, 08:45:24 PM
Birds will crap seeds they ate from somewhere else, and then you have crazy plants.  That's how I end up with thistle every year.   :banghead:
Odd, I didn't think thistle was an invasive plant
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 16, 2013, 09:18:01 PM
Odd, I didn't think thistle was an invasive plant

Yes.  When birds eat the seed that your neighbors put in their feeders, and poop in your yard, you end up with thistles.  Left untouched, they can grow as large in diameter as a cabbage in your lawn.  They also grow quite tall, much to the city code compliance department's dismay, or pleasure...depending on which way you view the situation.  Quite a mess indeed.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 17, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
Yes.  When birds eat the seed that your neighbors put in their feeders, and poop in your yard, you end up with thistles.  Left untouched, they can grow as large in diameter as a cabbage in your lawn.  They also grow quite tall, much to the city code compliance department's dismay, or pleasure...depending on which way you view the situation.  Quite a mess indeed.

Flower bed around the mailbox is full of them this year! They weren't there last year, and have just shown up in the last 2 weeks. With all the rain... they are everywhere and I have to figure out what to do about them. They are scattered all in a bunch of fir or juniper bushes - which I am allergic to. I think I'm going to have to call the little Guatamalan guy who did some yard work for me a couple of months ago...  :censored:

Damn birds could have dumped daylilly pellets...  :whistling:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Eupher on July 17, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
I like birds.

Not too crazy about day lilies though.  :-)

Things finally dried out around here. One of the wettest springs on record (2008 was soggier), but things are getting nicely brown now.

Brown means no mowing.  :-)
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 17, 2013, 05:15:50 PM
I like birds.

Not too crazy about day lilies though.  :-)

Things finally dried out around here. One of the wettest springs on record (2008 was soggier), but things are getting nicely brown now.

Brown means no mowing.  :-)

We've had 3 days - if we get through tonight - without rain.  :yahoo: But thunderstorms are starting to surround us... it's really weird... the storms are coming from the SE!  :???:

Thunderstorms are forecasted from today on through all next week until Friday.  :(

It's 91 out there now at 6:15....with dewpoint at 71 - like a damn steam room.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: IassaFTots on July 17, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
Flower bed around the mailbox is full of them this year! They weren't there last year, and have just shown up in the last 2 weeks. With all the rain... they are everywhere and I have to figure out what to do about them. They are scattered all in a bunch of fir or juniper bushes - which I am allergic to. I think I'm going to have to call the little Guatamalan guy who did some yard work for me a couple of months ago...  :censored:

Damn birds could have dumped daylilly pellets...  :whistling:

Or just friggin pellets!!!!!  Day lilies would be great though.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: seahorse513 on July 17, 2013, 09:34:06 PM
It has been an absolute sauna here in NE!!
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 18, 2013, 09:21:42 AM
A THI (Temperature Humidity Index) of 106o is forecasted for this afternoon. With the high humidity, I'll just lie low and watch the world pass by....

It's already 86o at 9:00 AM.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 18, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
Supposedly it's only 79 outside right now... but the humidity is 77%...

We ended up only getting sprinky-dinks here at the house last night along with some thunder. But the sky got the creepiest shade of YELLOW!! Granted it was a grayish yellow...which was just as gross a color as the description. I don't think I've ever seen a stormy sky go to such a weird color. It the wind hadn't been blowing as much as it was, it would have been scarier...

Storms due in this afternoon....after the temp gets up around 90...
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: Eupher on July 18, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
Supposedly it's only 79 outside right now... but the humidity is 77%...

We ended up only getting sprinky-dinks here at the house last night along with some thunder. But the sky got the creepiest shade of YELLOW!! Granted it was a grayish yellow...which was just as gross a color as the description. I don't think I've ever seen a stormy sky go to such a weird color. It the wind hadn't been blowing as much as it was, it would have been scarier...

Storms due in this afternoon....after the temp gets up around 90...

Ah, yes. Puke yellow. One of my favorite colors.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 18, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
Ah, yes. Puke yellow. One of my favorite colors.

Uh... yeah.. come to think of it.. that's a better description, of what it looked like, than mine!  :thatsright:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 27, 2013, 12:12:31 PM
This morning the weather guy said we were less than a 10th of an inch away from a year's worth of rain.

That was before the heavens opened up. Twice.

Tomorrow night, it's supposed to get down to 57.

It's the end of July in East Tennessee.

This is global warming?  :???:
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: EagleKeeper on July 27, 2013, 12:18:21 PM
This is global warming?  :???:

Nah...they call it climate change nowadays. Just in case.

Get with the program!
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: obumazombie on July 27, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
This morning the weather guy said we were less than a 10th of an inch away from a year's worth of rain.

That was before the heavens opened up. Twice.

Tomorrow night, it's supposed to get down to 57.

It's the end of July in East Tennessee.

This is global warming?  :???:

AlGore made his millions off of that scam already, so he's on to other swindles of gullible libs.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: RobJohnson on July 29, 2013, 03:00:58 AM
We had 60% of our average annual rainfall in one afternoon Sunday. 3 inches. The runoff from the mountains created some flash flood conditions and several streets and highways were closed.

Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: debk on July 29, 2013, 10:01:24 AM
We had 60% of our average annual rainfall in one afternoon Sunday. 3 inches. The runoff from the mountains created some flash flood conditions and several streets and highways were closed.



I saw reports on the news last night from your area. The bus that slid off the road because of water?  :o :o :o

Have you seen the reports of the rain in NC? It's horrible.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: obumazombie on July 29, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
8" in Philly yesterday. The city of wet brotherly love.
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: CG6468 on July 29, 2013, 02:40:54 PM
8" in Philly yesterday. The city of wet brotherly love.

I would have worded that differently.  ::)
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: obumazombie on July 29, 2013, 05:06:40 PM
^Hehe
Title: Re: Monsoons....
Post by: seahorse513 on July 29, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
8" in Philly yesterday. The city of wet brotherly love.
It's a state of brotherly love alright, and not in a good way either....... :-)