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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 06, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
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Whether Proglodyte or mole, SilverShithole deserves a rock-in-a-sock-to-the-cock:
silvershadow (1,956 posts)
3. Guess all that outsourcing and sharing the wealth around the world worked out well. Too soon? nt
NutmegYankee (4,993 posts)
28. I thought that was the 787?
The Velveteen Ocelot (35,048 posts)
30. It is the 787 that was outsourced. The 777 was built almost entirely in the US
and it has an excellent safety record. "Outsourcing" is not an issue here.
Then what is the issue you two-faced ****tards?
silvershadow (1,956 posts)
66. Whoops, my bad.
What's the matter turd-sucker? Too scared to play by your own rules?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014528925
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They'll just move the goal posts and claim it's because Boeing workers aren't in a union.
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They'll just move the goal posts and claim it's because Boeing workers aren't in a union.
That's exactly what they're claiming:
SilverShithole: Oh those stupid workers and their sub-standard workmanship! I knew this would happen!
ActuallySanePerson: Wrong plane, dipshit.
SilverShithole: This totally has nothing to do with the workmanship!!!
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Can't the DUmmies just accept that a plane crashed, and people have died and more are hurt?
And liberals are supposed to be the sensitive crowd? Yeah.............no.
:banghead:
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Regardless of the plane or its origins, it appears the 777 mishap was the result of a botched approach which resulted in the plane being too low as it flew over the displaced threshold and impacting the sea wall. Nothing nefarious to blame non union work on.
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Regardless of the plane or its origins, it appears the 777 mishap was the result of a botched approach which resulted in the plane being too low as it flew over the displaced threshold and impacting the sea wall. Nothing nefarious to blame non union work on.
Was the pilot union? Was the person working at the check in counter union? Was the travel agent a union member that sold the plane ticket ? Did President Bush own the plane.........?.This has to be someone's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did conservatives deregulate the airline?
Dumbasses turn everything, including a tragedy into a political issue.
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Was the pilot union? Was the person working at the check in counter union? Was the travel agent a union member that sold the plane ticket ? Did President Bush own the plane.........?.This has to be someone's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did conservatives deregulate the airline?
Dumbasses turn everything, including a tragedy into a political issue.
Ask and ye shall receive. :-)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023185303
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:13 PM
Star Member DemocratSinceBirth (46,281 posts)
Plane crashed at San Francisco Int'l Airport
Here it is.
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:25 PM
Star Member NYC_SKP (49,818 posts)
10. Possibly collapsed gear, or gear didn't deploy. And you'd be dead wrong, DUmbass.
And it could have been a controlled hard landing. Glad that we still have an FAA, haven't deregulated safety the way we have banks and investments.
:lmao: :rotf:
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The Velveteen Ocelot (35,049 posts)
14. On CNN a guy is describing what sounded like an extreme tail strike
The approach looked normal, but on landing the nose pitched up, then according to the witness the tail broke off and the airplane started to cartwheel.
I don't how that could have happened, but we'll find out soon enough.
randome (15,058 posts)
15. They didn't compensate for the extra weight of Snowden hidden in the wheel well.
Response to flamingdem (Reply #25)
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 04:40 PM
Divernan (9,944 posts)
27. Your "sense of humor" is so tasteless.
Using a tragedy to lob sarcasm
But it's ok to to use a tragedy to blame out sourcing and non union labor. :loser:
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Ask and ye shall receive. :-)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023185303Here it is. :lmao: :rotf:
:rofl:
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Was the pilot union? Was the person working at the check in counter union? Was the travel agent a union member that sold the plane ticket ? Did President Bush own the plane.........?.This has to be someone's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did conservatives deregulate the airline?
Dumbasses turn everything, including a tragedy into a political issue.
Ain't that the daggone truth, Rob! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
First thing I thought was: "Man those poor people in the jet must have been terrified!"
That is the reason I don't set a foot on airplanes. My first time was my last time. Years ago the boss wanted me to fly somewhere. Don't remember where now. I refused. He said he would fire me. I told him don't bother, I quit. Walked out the door.
Been there 18 years now and still have not set foot on an airplane. :lmao: :lmao:
I don't ride roller coasters either and the people that do just ain't right in the head! :fuelfire: :fuelfire:
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Ain't that the daggone truth, Rob! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
First thing I thought was: "Man those poor people in the jet must have been terrified!"
That is the reason I don't set a foot on airplanes. My first time was my last time. Years ago the boss wanted me to fly somewhere. Don't remember where now. I refused. He said he would fire me. I told him don't bother, I quit. Walked out the door.
Been there 18 years now and still have not set foot on an airplane. :lmao: :lmao:
I don't ride roller coasters either and the people that do just ain't right in the head! :fuelfire: :fuelfire:
I presume that helicopters are out of the question, too. :tongue: :fuelfire:
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Ain't that the daggone truth, Rob! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
First thing I thought was: "Man those poor people in the jet must have been terrified!"
That is the reason I don't set a foot on airplanes. My first time was my last time. Years ago the boss wanted me to fly somewhere. Don't remember where now. I refused. He said he would fire me. I told him don't bother, I quit. Walked out the door.
Been there 18 years now and still have not set foot on an airplane. :lmao: :lmao:
I don't ride roller coasters either and the people that do just ain't right in the head! :fuelfire: :fuelfire:
Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.
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Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.
:-)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Regardless of the plane or its origins, it appears the 777 mishap was the result of a botched approach which resulted in the plane being too low as it flew over the displaced threshold and impacting the sea wall. Nothing nefarious to blame non union work on.
It does seem that pilot error is far more likely than structural causes.
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It does seem that pilot error is far more likely than structural causes.
You have an Ivories worth of yes, in there.
99 44/100%
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The Media is throwing around all kinds of theories already, this includes FOX.
I've heard everything that international airlines are not held to the same standards as domestic airlines and Fox was interviewing lawyers wanting to know if passengers should lawyer up after the crash. Something along the lines of there might be a way to "cash in" and make some money and the lawyers would benefit also...at that point, I had to turn it off, they were showing the wreckage at the same time...it made me feel sick.
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The Media is throwing around all kinds of theories already, this includes FOX.
I've heard everything that international airlines are not held to the same standards as domestic airlines and Fox was interviewing lawyers wanting to know if passengers should lawyer up after the crash. Something along the lines of there might be a way to "cash in" and make some money and the lawyers would benefit also...at that point, I had to turn it off, they were showing the wreckage at the same time...it made me feel sick.
Internationals coming here must meet our requirements. Supposedly.
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The most likely conjecture at this point is that the pilot of the mishap aircraft badly misjudged a visual approach. The standard approach for transport commercial is an ILS approach regardless of meteorological conditions. In this case the weather was reported as no ceiling and visibility greater than 10 miles. At the local time of landing the sun angle might have been a factor. The ILS was reported as being out of service due to construction on adjacent runways. The visual glideslope lights were reportedly available. A good pilot will back up his ILS or visual approach with a techniques known as an internal GCA. The rule of thumb is that to be on an optimum glideslope the aircraft will be approximately 300 feet AGL for each mile away from touchdown. One passenger interviewed stated he was intimately familiar with the surroundings of the approach end of the assigned runway. His familiarity came from extensive windsurfing there over an extended period of years. He stated he thought the aircraft was dangerously low too far away from the runway. The results I see are consistent with all this reporting.
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The most likely conjecture at this point is that the pilot of the mishap aircraft badly misjudged a visual approach. The standard approach for transport commercial is an ILS approach regardless of meteorological conditions. In this case the weather was reported as no ceiling and visibility greater than 10 miles. At the local time of landing the sun angle might have been a factor. The ILS was reported as being out of service due to construction on adjacent runways. The visual glideslope lights were reportedly available. A good pilot will back up his ILS or visual approach with a techniques known as an internal GCA. The rule of thumb is that to be on an optimum glideslope the aircraft will be approximately 300 feet AGL for each mile away from touchdown. One passenger interviewed stated he was intimately familiar with the surroundings of the approach end of the assigned runway. His familiarity came from extensive windsurfing there over an extended period of years. He stated he thought the aircraft was dangerously low too far away from the runway. The results I see are consistent with all this reporting.
My gawd.
It's actually interesting and informative.
:-)
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^Then you will love my thread "Everything I know about weight loss" !
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^Then you will love my thread "Everything I know about weight loss" !
While I agree with Snugs that your posting was very informative, perhaps any 'weight loss' posts should skip anything about . . . 'flushing the system from behind.' :tongue: :fuelfire:
(However, the names 'Karen Carpenter' or 'Bobby Sands' are fair game. :whistling: )
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They'll just move the goal posts and claim it's because Boeing workers aren't in a union.
The 777 is built at Boeing's Everett, Washington plant...a UNION shop.
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Has a democrat politician or leftist 501C come out and blamed it on the SEQUESTER yet?
I'm sure they have. Politicizing a tragedy for a democrat takes less time than the light turning to green and a honk form behind.
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The 777 is built at Boeing's Everett, Washington plant...a UNION shop.
And despite that, Boeing makes the finest aircraft in the world.
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And despite that, Boeing makes the finest aircraft in the world.
I agree with you there. My old plane, the Boeing B-52H was built in 1960 and is expected to be in service until 2040. I don't think the government has gotten more value for their dollar than when they purchased the fleet of BUFFs.
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Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.
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Take. The. Milk.
I have seen what happens when you do not take the milk...unless you like needles or a 2x4 to the back of the head.
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Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.
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You mean like this?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgQGfBOnh8[/youtube]
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FWIW everything I've heard about this event so far leads me to believe that there was nothing structurally or mechanically wrong with 214.
It was just a botched approach, the thing that I am having trouble getting my head around is that there was supposedly 4 pilots in the cockpit during that approach.
The way I understand it is that they were 7 seconds out before it was noted that they were too low and too slow and 1.5 seconds out before any move was made to go around. How could there not have been 1 or 2 pilots that were stomping on their imaginary brakes.
I assume that the cockpit recording will come out soon enough but I just have to wonder if it had anything to do with Korean culture.
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^Bingo.
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^Bingo.
Shouldn't the tower be on top of stuff like this?
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Shouldn't the tower be on top of stuff like this?
Actually they are very observant about landing aircraft, but they are admonished to not try to fly the aircraft over the radio. If a tower controller or supervisor had enough foresight he could have told Asianair to go around. If that radio call was made early enough in the botched visual approach that may have pulled the chestnuts out of the proverbial fire. But there is no guarantee that the next approach would have been any better.
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I presume that helicopters are out of the question, too. :tongue: :fuelfire:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Since you are afraid of flying, if you have a trip coming up and your coworkers offer you a glass of milk, don't drink it you will wake up with a bad attitude.
:-)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Both ya all can just bite me!!!! :tongue: :tongue:
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I'll take a stab at it...I remember watching a documentary on the crash at Tenerife back in the 70's. One of the contributing factors of the KLM jet was the near iron-clad attitude of never, EVER questioning the pilot. The KLM pilot in question was a very senior guy and was very much of the attitude that everyone else was not to question him.
Now consider the deference in Asian cultures towards the senior or head person. It's very rude and bad form to correct a senior, even when they are wrong, as it would cost the senior person face. So it's entirely possible that there were in fact some of the pilots who knew they were too low and slow but were so afraid to correct the more senior but less experienced pilot until it was too late.
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^Spot on.