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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on July 04, 2013, 04:38:54 PM
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The flag.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023168673
rrneck (14,168 posts)
The flag.
I rather like the flag. I don't feel embarrassed or self conscious at my pleasure at the sight of Old Glory. I don't like to see it mistreated or damaged. I don't like to see it disrespected. The flag symbolizes something very important to me and to all of us. It doesn't symbolize concepts like freedom or democracy. It certainly doesn't symbolize a political agenda. It's not a symbol of any ideological abstraction. The flag is you. The flag is my tribe. No matter who you are or where you are, if you are a citizen of the United States, I'm on your side.
Have a happy Independence Day.
DURHAM D (18,782 posts)
1. I am flying my flag upside down today.
You are clearly in distress.
rrneck (14,168 posts)
2. I understand. nt
ZombieHorde (24,291 posts)
4. I hate flags.
All sorts of brutality have been justified by the delusional idea of tribalism. The flag is a lie, like homeopathic medicine and phone psychics.
rrneck (14,168 posts)
5. You have a point.
You have to dehumanize someone to brutalize them. We frequently use ideologies to dehumanize people. We try to make them fit our conception of what we think they should be or how they should fit with our point of view.
There is a big difference between a tribe and tribalism. A tribe is a group of people who share common objectives and responsibilities. Tribalism is an ideology. If a symbol of unity, like a flag, is used to represent a concept instead people it becomes a straightjacket. The flag is you, not my concept of you.
Your kind do that all the time. :mental:
Tierra_y_Libertad (37,141 posts)
6. "Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's brains
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's brains and then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead." Arundhati Roy
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The people who a few years back said the flag is just a god damn piece of cloth.
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These people are assholes, plain and simple
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You know, if DUmmies weren't so damn lazy, one of them would have started a toilet paper making company that printed toilet paper rolls of the US flag.
No worries, they're to lazy and stupid to run a company...... and only union DUmmies would work there and they would soon break the company before the first roll hit the market.
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rrneck (14,168 posts)
5. You have a point.
You have to dehumanize someone to brutalize them. We frequently use ideologies to dehumanize people. We try to make them fit our conception of what we think they should be or how they should fit with our point of view.
It's just a clump of cells, not a human being.
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It's just a clump of cells, not a human being.
True, consider this quote from rneck slightly altered...
"We try to make them fit our contraception of what we think they should be or how they should fit with our point of view."
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It's just a clump of cells, not a human being.
Yep exactly right.