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Title: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: zeitgeist on July 03, 2013, 03:32:57 PM

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023159730

Whoa Nellie, this could be Hugh and Series

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snooper2 (17,108 posts)

Daily Kos, Democratic Underground Blast "Sociopathic," "Evil" Obama
 
To say that the Daily Kos, Democratic Underground, and other progressive sites have carried the water for Obama since he emerged on the national stage is a drastic understatement. They've covered up lies, downplayed scandals, accused Republicans of everything from rape to murder, and through it all declared Barack Obama as one of their greatest heroes.

It takes a lot to turn the opinions of blinded sheep like these. And while they have yet to awaken to who the President really is, the NSA scandal and the government's stance on Edward Snowden has started to make them hate the man they once considered "the chosen one."

A mere month ago threads such as, "Obama Masterfully Uses Code Pink Heckler To Make His Case That GITMO Must Be Closed" were the norm on Democratic Underground. Responses such as, "Have you had a chance to to watch the speech in full, it was excellent" made up the comment sections.

And they quote some our our more "famous" DU'ers 
http://www.punditpress.com/2013/06/daily-kos-democratic-underground-blast.html

and freepers, oh the stupid freepers-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3035024/posts


Now maybe people can see what a couple handfuls of trolls and conspiracy nuts who don't understand technology can do to a web forum  (It's just a series of tubes, they listen' to all me calls ma!, President Obama had a plane stopped!) 

Have a nice 4th of July President Obama and family! 


Yup it is those pesky trolls that are undermining things.

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Tarheel_Dem (17,344 posts)

49. "O is just a house ngger for Wall St"??? You may not see that exact language here, but the....
 
implications are frighteningly similar. 


I just grabbed a quick sample above.   The thread itself is a study in DU[de]nial. :rotf:
A he said she said with lots of high post DUmmies.  Enjoy
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Carl on July 03, 2013, 03:54:33 PM
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Response to snooper2 (Original post)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
 wandy (1,834 posts)
24. Well, it is what you'd expect..................

Freepers, oldcogerform folk and the like have no way to understand what has been going on here for the past few weeks.
Let's face it they are given a script by either Limbaugh, Drudge or fox and simply parrot the party line.
They have no concept of the type of discussions or even discourse that has been going on here.
In their world breaking with the party line is sacrilegus.
We, know their is a problem. We present our views, and batter out a course of action on which to proceed.

I just hope none of us gets all too very black and blue in the process of defining that course.
I also hope that we can come to an agreement as to how we can effectively express our displeasure with the NSA.
Soon.

OMG!!!   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Chris_ on July 03, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
My script got lost in the mail. :(
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Wineslob on July 03, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
Damn, haven't listened to Rush for a few weeks, and I don't watch FOX.  I'm so screwed.    :whatever:
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Chris_ on July 03, 2013, 04:12:22 PM
Damn, haven't listened to Rush for a few weeks, and I don't watch FOX.  I'm so screwed.    :whatever:
Who has time to listen to Rush?  I'm usually working.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: dandi on July 03, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
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Now maybe people can see what a couple handfuls of trolls and conspiracy nuts who don't understand technology can do to a web forum

That "couple handfuls of trolls" includes a sunbstantial number of moonbat regulars with post counts in the 5-figure range. Corporate Obama has failed to bring them the Skittle-shitting unicorns they were all promised. Given the natural fickleness of the Hive, what did you expect their reaction to be?
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: wasp69 on July 03, 2013, 04:23:17 PM
Been another bad week to be a DUmmie...
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Bad Dog on July 03, 2013, 04:32:38 PM
My script got lost in the mail. :(

Dog ate mine.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: jukin on July 03, 2013, 04:35:20 PM
Been another bad week to be a DUmmie...

Equals another good week for decent and civilized people and our country.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: USA4ME on July 03, 2013, 05:10:53 PM
I was just reading that thread and was going to bring it over. Glad you did.

For those who haven't it's well worth the time to read it. Combination of primitives crying, puffing out their chest like they're tough, acting like they don't care, saying I told you so, etc... Basically like on all other topics it's a bunch of nobody's wishing they were somebody's, but still funny to read.  I highly recommend it.

.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: zeitgeist on July 03, 2013, 05:52:26 PM
I was just reading that thread and was going to bring it over. Glad you did.

For those who haven't it's well worth the time to read it. Combination of primitives crying, puffing out their chest like they're tough, acting like they don't care, saying I told you so, etc... Basically like on all other topics it's a bunch of nobody's wishing they were somebody's, but still funny to read.  I highly recommend it.

.

Did you catch this one?  I just don't have time at the moment to do justice in a separate post:

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023151188


Their world is crumbling, just like Krypton ( See Superman in Black and White Year 1 Episode 1)   

And when will they realize where (in his second term) Nixon was when the flush handle was pulled? :rotf:
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: zeitgeist on July 03, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
I just couldn't resist grabbing this from the thread I mentioned above.  Great list there Woo Me. Maybe you should think about moving over to CC?

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woo me with science (20,445 posts)

96. The record shows aggressive advocacy of a corporate agenda
 
Last edited Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (6)

in every policy area important to the One Percent.

Look again at the list below of Obama's major actions and policy decisions in office. This list does not show the President trying to enact a more liberal agenda and being obstructed. It shows him working aggressively and proactively, over and over again, to install corporatists into his administration and to enact a corporate agenda. 


Corporate and bank-cozy appointments, over and over again, including major appointments like:

A serial defender of corrupt bankers for the SEC; the architect of "Kill Lists" and supporter of torture, drone wars, and telecom immunity for the CIA; and a Monsanto VP who has lied and been involved in extremely disturbing claims regarding food safety for the FDA. An Attorney General who has not prosecuted a single large bank but wages war against medical marijuana users and *for* strip searches and warrantless surveillance of Americans. Tim Geithner. And now Penny Pritzker.
Bailouts and settlements for corrupt banks (with personal pressure from Obama to attorneys general to approve them),
Refusal by Obama's DOJ to prosecute even huge, egregious examples of bank fraud (i.e, HSBC)
signing NDAA to allow indefinite detention,
"Kill lists" and claiming of the right to assassinate even American citizens without trial
Expansion of wars into several new countries
A renewed public advocacy for the concept of preemptive war
Drone campaigns in multiple countries with whom we are not at war
Proliferation of military drones in our skies
Federal targeting of Occupy for surveillance and militarized response to peaceful protesters
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for warrantless surveillance
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for strip searches for any arrestee
Supporting and signing Internet-censoring and privacy-violating measures like ACTA
Support for corporate groping and naked scanning of Americans seeking to travel
A new, massive spy center for warrantless access to Americans' phone calls, emails, and internet use
Support of legal immunity for telecoms/warrantless wiretapping
Support of legislation to legalize massive surveillance of Americans
Militarized police departments, through federal grants
Marijuana users and medical marijuana clinics under assault,
Skyrocketing of the budget for prisons.
Failing to veto a bipartisan vote in Congress to gut more financial regulations.
Passionate speeches and press conferences promoting austerity for Americans
Bush tax cuts extended for billionaires, them much of it made permanent
Support for the payroll tax holiday, tying SS to the general fund
Support for the vicious chained CPI cut in Social Security and benefits for the disabled
Social security, Medicare, and Medicaid offered up as bargaining chips in budget negotiations, with No mention of cutting corporate welfare or the military budget
Advocacy of multiple new free trade agreements, including The Trans-Pacific, otherwise known as "NAFTA on steroids."
Support of drilling, pipelines, and selling off portions of the Gulf of Mexico
Corporate education policy including high stakes corporate testing and closures of public schools
Entrenchment of exorbitant for-profit health insurance companies into healthcare, through mandate
Legal assault on union rights of hundreds of thousands of federal workers
New policies of targeting children and first responders in drone campaigns,
New policies of awarding medals for remote drone attacks,
Appointment of private prison executive to head the US Marshal's office
Massive escalation of federal contracts for private prisons under US Marshall's Office



Chilling Legal Memo From Obama DOJ Justifies Assassination of US Citizens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654954

Obama seeks longer PATRIOT Act extension than Republicans (December 2013)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x380450

When it comes to civil liberties, apparently Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022101960

NSA's Massive New Spy Center to Track Your Emails, Internet Activity, and Phone Calls
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101620852

Obama Quietly Signs Abusive Spy Bill He Once Vowed to Eliminate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861

Obama repeals Magna Carta, asserting powers our forefathers denied to Kings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101655620

Obama's Memo on Killing Americans Twists 'Imminent Threat' Like Bush
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654919

Obama no better than Bush when it comes to security vs. civil liberties.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355307

Obama Admin Seeks Permission TO LIE In Response To FOI Requests - Even To The COURTS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2185303

NDAA on trial: Obama Administration fights ban on indefinite detention of Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101748688

Obama administration complicit with private prison industry: President Obama's IncarcerNation
http://www.nationofchange.org/president-obama-s-incarcernation-1335274655

Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022084702

NDAA, signed by Obama, is a direct attack against legitimate protest and dissent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022064803

NSA Whistleblower: All Americans under constant surveillance, all info. stored, no matter the post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002193487; http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021935289

Bipartisan Congress Disgracefully Approves the FISA Warrantless Spying Bill for Five More Years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022087323

While Public & Media Focused on 2nd Amendment, 5th Amendment Quietly Dismantled
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022390581

How the Obama administration justifies extrajudicial killing of Americans,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022318187

Judge Says Under Law Executive Branch Can Commit Acts That Sure Do Seem Unconstitutional
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022122464

Obama Justice Dept. says wiretap lawsuit should not proceed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014337039

NDAA Lawsuit- Hedges v. Obama, The Last Thin Line of Defense
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022357078

Federal authorities step up efforts to license surveillance drones for law enforcement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022383596

Big Banks and FBI worked together vs Occupy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022095056]

FBI Investigated 'Occupy' As Possible 'Domestic Terrorism' Threat, Internal Documents Show
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022061578

FBI Documents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring (Updated the OP)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022057064

Public Buses Across Country Quietly Adding Microphones to Record Passenger Conversations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021965291

Street artist behind satirical NYPD 'Drone' posters arrested
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021920967

The Obama DOJ urged the Supreme Court's endorsement of strip searches.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002521527

Obama Administration Fights to Allow Warrantless GPS Tracking
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1074474

Anonymous to FBI: hey, dudes, maybe you could take a break from...investigating activists....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022145621

Half a billion dollars for drones to spy on Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876414

From Bradley Manning to Aaron Swartz -- The Government's Inhumane Persecution of Brave Truth Tellers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276941

The sight of Army helicopters and the sound of gunfire...on Houston's south side
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276742

Kiriakou and Stuxnet: the danger of the still-escalating Obama whistleblower war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275570

Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Property?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022237059

Social Media and the Stasi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021888029

Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US, Despite Safety/Privacy Invasions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014312823

CIA Behind Bizarre Censorship Incident At Alleged 9/11 Plotters’ Gitmo Trial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022280285

“I Am Wearing My Conviction As A Badge Of Honor.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275128

Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525281

How Secrecy Corrodes Democracy
http://election.democraticunderground.com/101655009

Obama Quietly Issues Ruling Saying It's Legal For The FBI To Break The Law
http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7545687

US Pulls Plug on Iran Cable News (Press TV)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014394770

DHS Watchdog OKs 'Suspicionless' Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022339091






 
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: obumazombie on July 03, 2013, 05:58:27 PM
Dog ate mine.
And peed on mine, producing a plonk sound.
In other news, I want to  "batter out a course of action on which to proceed."
Batter up !
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: ChuckJ on July 03, 2013, 06:01:31 PM
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Tarheel_Dem (17,344 posts)

49. "O is just a house ngger for Wall St"??? You may not see that exact language here, but the....
 
implications are frighteningly similar.  

The DUmp sure is eager to find reasons to drop the "N" word.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: wasp69 on July 03, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
I was just reading that thread and was going to bring it over. Glad you did.

For those who haven't it's well worth the time to read it. Combination of primitives crying, puffing out their chest like they're tough, acting like they don't care, saying I told you so, etc... Basically like on all other topics it's a bunch of nobody's wishing they were somebody's, but still funny to read.  I highly recommend it.

.

Full contact, retard on retard bloodsport.  Makes for a wonderful read.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Delmar on July 03, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
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Response to snooper2 (Original post)Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:59 PM
 LittleBlue (3,133 posts)
115. A dim bulb resembles the sun when you've spent 8 years in darkness

The desperation of the Bush years was crushing, I almost gave up bothering with politics. Obama was a blank canvas, and I projected on him all the things I wanted to see.

To be honest, I regret ever supporting him. From now on, I will never support any politician before seeing how they govern.

Oh and if any Freepers are reading this while wanking, don't gloat, because this ship is going down and we're all on it. And none of your Tea Party weirdos help in the slightest to keep us afloat.

I told you so!
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: franksolich on July 03, 2013, 08:19:41 PM
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.....this ship is going down and we're all on it.

<<<but am willing to do my best to keep decent and civilized people from going down, much as I can.

Primitives can sink like a lead ball to the bottom, as far as I'm concerned, however.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 03, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
Been another bad week to be a DUmmie...

You would think this is a good week for DUmmies as Supreme Court ruled in favor of gay marriage and various other rulings.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Carl on July 03, 2013, 08:23:28 PM
<<<but am willing to do my best to keep decent and civilized people from going down, much as I can.

Primitives can sink like a lead ball to the bottom, as far as I'm concerned, however.

We will survive,they will not...one thing they do not grasp.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: franksolich on July 03, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
You would think this is a good week for DUmmies as Supreme Court ruled in favor of gay marriage and various other rulings.

But one of the major characteristics of primitivity is that they demand the whole loaf.

Ninety-nine percent, 90%, 80%, 75%, 67%, of the loaf isn't good enough for them.

Unless the primitives get the whole thing, they're unhappy.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: franksolich on July 03, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
We will survive,they will not...one thing they do not grasp.

Of course.

Hey, how about we try again one more time.  A telephonic conversation at your own convenience, sir.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 03, 2013, 08:28:46 PM
But one of the major characteristics of primitivity is that they demand the whole loaf.

Ninety-nine percent, 90%, 80%, 75%, 67%, of the loaf isn't good enough for them.

Unless the primitives get the whole thing, they're unhappy.

So true. They are 100%'ers. A bunch of batty overgrown kids. :mental:
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: franksolich on July 03, 2013, 08:30:59 PM
So true. They are 100%'ers. :mental:

Well, the've gotten pretty much they ever wanted, from the Big Zero; I'm sure that if you or I got pretty much what we ever wanted, we'd be deliriously happy.

But because the primitives got only 95% or 99%, which isn't the whole loaf, they're unhappy.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: obumazombie on July 03, 2013, 08:31:18 PM
So true. They are 100%'ers. :mental:
Only 99% of them are.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 03, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
Well, the've gotten pretty much they ever wanted, from the Big Zero; I'm sure that if you or I got pretty much what we ever wanted, we'd be deliriously happy.

But because the primitives got only 95% or 99%, which isn't the whole loaf, they're unhappy.

Their anger makes me happy.  :yahoo: :lmao: :-)
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Carl on July 03, 2013, 08:49:11 PM
Of course.

Hey, how about we try again one more time.  A telephonic conversation at your own convenience, sir.


Yes,will PM you tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: franksolich on July 03, 2013, 08:51:31 PM

Yes,will PM you tomorrow afternoon.

Okay, I'm happy to be around, and look forward to it.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 03, 2013, 08:55:16 PM
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Obama was a blank canvas, and I projected on him all the things I wanted to see.

That line is paraphrased from Obama's fictional auto-bio, Dreams of My Father.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: USA4ME on July 03, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
Did you catch this one?  I just don't have time at the moment to do justice in a separate post:

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023151188


Their world is crumbling, just like Krypton ( See Superman in Black and White Year 1 Episode 1)   

And when will they realize where (in his second term) Nixon was when the flush handle was pulled? :rotf:

Another great thread. Thanks!

.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 03, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
Quote
Tarheel_Dem (17,344 posts)

49. "O is just a house ngger for Wall St"??? You may not see that exact language here, but the....
 
implications are frighteningly similar. 

And evidently, you cannot contradict (surprise, surprise) that statement with actual fact.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 03, 2013, 09:16:50 PM
Their anger makes me happy.  :yahoo: :lmao: :-)

I revel in it.  I bathe in it.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Big Dog on July 03, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
Dog ate mine.

I did not!

Well, maybe I did...was it wrapped in  bacon?
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: biersmythe on July 03, 2013, 11:35:14 PM
"Federal targeting of Occupy for surveillance and militarized response to peaceful protesters "

I almost spit out my beer when I read this....they are truly dirt bags just like the occupiers were!!!!
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 04, 2013, 04:58:34 AM
I just couldn't resist grabbing this from the thread I mentioned above.  Great list there Woo Me. Maybe you should think about moving over to CC?


Zeit, from the DUmmie you quoted . . . I wonder if this could be their theme song?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE[/youtube]

ETA:  Naaah, they'll just line up and press the button, or pull the lever, for whoever is under the D line.

Biersmythe, that would be a waste of good brew. :tongue: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Ogre on July 04, 2013, 05:44:05 AM
Quote
Response to snooper2 (Original post)Wed Jul 3, 2013, 05:59 PM
 LittleBlue (3,133 posts)
115. A dim bulb resembles the sun when you've spent 8 years in darkness

The desperation of the Bush years was crushing, I almost gave up bothering with politics. Obama was a blank canvas, and I projected on him all the things I wanted to see.

To be honest, I regret ever supporting him. From now on, I will never support any politician before seeing how they govern.

Oh and if any Freepers are reading this while wanking, don't gloat, because this ship is going down and we're all on it. And none of your Tea Party weirdos help in the slightest to keep us afloat.

We may all be on the ship, but the difference is Dummy I know how to swim (read as I don't need the government to give me handouts in order to survive).

You and the rest of your kind never have bothered to learn how too and are now going to pay the price for that.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: NHSparky on July 04, 2013, 06:29:21 AM
I did not!

Well, maybe I did...was it wrapped in  bacon?

Cat poop, actually.  Same thing to a dog.

I have never seen a slo-mo  implosion unless it's been taken by a high-speed camera.  To see what is happening over at the DUmp is, well, interesting.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Ballygrl on July 04, 2013, 07:24:54 AM
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Let's face it they are given a script by either Limbaugh, Drudge or fox and simply parrot the party line.


They're actually lukewarm on Rush at times, they don't like Drudge and they increasingly don't like Fox.

These leftist fools don't have the slightest idea how we think.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Linda on July 04, 2013, 07:29:24 AM


They're actually lukewarm on Rush at times, they don't like Drudge and they increasingly don't like Fox.

These leftist fools don't have the slightest idea how we think.

They don't realize that we do our own thinking and it is not group think.
Title: Re: Looks like trolls stage interwebz coup at DUmp!!
Post by: Splashdown on July 04, 2013, 07:42:27 AM
That's what happens when you rely on a cult of personality rather than yourself.