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Title: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: Freeper on July 02, 2013, 08:43:15 AM
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cali (82,180 posts)

Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States


 
Abortion restrictions are popping up everywhere, it seems.

While activists and celebrities protest a bill in Texas, Ohio just enacted legislation of its own.

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Here’s what they do:

Alabama – HB 57: Starting Monday, women in Alabama aren’t able to obtain “abortion pills” via telemedicine. Planned Parenthood has said that making medication abortions, like the RU-486 pill, available to women via video conference provides safe access to women who may live far away from a clinic. National Right to Life has suggested that supplying the pills without in-person medical supervision, and perhaps without a hospital nearby, can put women in danger. Now, abortion doctors in Alabama must examine women before prescribing abortion pills.

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Indiana – SB 371: Women must now be given ultrasounds before getting abortions in Indiana, under a new law signed by Republican Gov. Mike Pence on May 1. Any health care provider that prescribes abortion pills must now abide by the same regulations as medical abortion clinics, and the secretary of state’s office must now draft a new set of regulations for sanitation standards, staff qualifications, necessary emergency equipment and other requirements for clinics.

Medication abortions can no longer be prescribed via telemedicine consultations: Abortion doctors or nurses must meet with women in person and discuss the health risks of taking an abortion pill.

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/starting-this-week-its-harder-to-get-an-abortion-in-5-states/

TRAP laws, TRAP laws and more TRAP laws. The anti-choicers unlocked the secret to effectively banning abortion.

Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP)

Burdensome and Unnecessary Requirements Limit Access to Services

"TRAP" (Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers) laws single out the medical practices of doctors who provide abortions, and impose on them requirements that are different and more burdensome than those imposed on other medical practices. For example, such regulations may require that abortions be performed in far more sophisticated and expensive facilities than are necessary to ensure the provision of safe procedures. Compliance with these physical plant requirements may require extensive renovations or be physically impossible in existing facilities. TRAP laws may also allow unannounced state inspections, even when patients are present. These excessive and unnecessary government regulations – an ever-growing trend among state legislatures – increase the cost and scarcity of abortion services, harming women's health and inhibiting their reproductive choices.

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http://reproductiverights.org/en/project/targeted-regulation-of-abortion-providers-trap
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023147379

Grumpy cat says, GOOD.

If this saves even one life it's worth it.

If we can restrict the hell out a right specifically mentioned in the Constitution, The right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed, then we can certainly restrict a right NOT mentioned in the Constitution. Of course if you ask the low information DUmmies they will claim that the second amendment does not protect the right that was written, but the right to abortion is protected and shall not be infringed.  :mental:

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Do you need or want an abortion young lady? Well just lay back and get an unneeded medical
test in order to humilate you and make you think you are a murderer.

Well if you pay to have someone killed you are a murderer.


Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 02, 2013, 08:58:47 AM
Well then, DUmmies should invest in rusty coat hangers.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on July 02, 2013, 09:16:40 AM
I can't wait until the word "harder" is replaced with "impossible" for elective abortions.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 02, 2013, 09:32:27 AM
I can't wait until the word "harder" is replaced with "impossible" for elective abortions.

The government imposed free birth control. All they have to do is get off their backs and walk down to the pharmacy and get it.

There shouldn't be a need for elective abortion.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: jukin on July 02, 2013, 09:34:25 AM
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Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers (TRAP)

Burdensome and Unnecessary Requirements Limit Access to Services

This is what has been done to every other industry by leftists.  The DUchebags really hate it when their own tactics are used against them. I would have thought that baby killing factories would have had some very strict regulations but there are none. A hot dog cart has a 1000 times more regulations and enforcers. Think of all the new jobs these TRAP laws will create.

As an aside, Ace thinks that we should be using six months and not twenty weeks. People tend to think differently and know what a six month pregnant woman looks like and know that the baby is not a clump of cells. When we use 'weeks' makes people think the baby is new, just conceived. Another point to note is that in the socialist utopias of Denmark, France, Sweden, etc it is illegal to abort after 12 weeks.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: franksolich on July 02, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
I don't see why the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive is so upset.

All of these make good practical medical sense.

What other sorts of dangerous or powerful drugs are not prescribed before a medical professional has actually seen the patient in person?

Why should any health care provider giving such services be exempt from the same regulations governing ordinary medical clinics?
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: Chris_ on July 02, 2013, 09:39:18 AM
I don't see why the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive is so upset.

All of these make good practical medical sense.

What other sorts of dangerous or powerful drugs are not prescribed before a medical professional has actually seen the patient in person?

Why should any health care provider giving such services be exempt from the same regulations governing ordinary medical clinics?
These are the same fools that believed Obama when he said doctors were chopping off feet and legs so they could make another boat payment or take a fancy vacation.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 02, 2013, 09:42:28 AM
Back when I was a teen, abortions were out sourced to foreign countries.....hell, that's where all the other jobs have gone, why not abortions.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: wasp69 on July 02, 2013, 10:37:48 AM
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cali (82,180 posts)

Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States

Am I missing something?  Is the possibility of pregnancy such a threat to DUmbass Eva cali?  Is there anyone that would fornicate with this harpy?  Even with a rented dick?
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: Celtic Rose on July 02, 2013, 11:44:58 AM
They are so enamored with abortion that they see even efforts to regulate it like other medical care as efforts to suppress it. 

I personally believe that abortion is murder unless the life of the mother is in danger, but as a person involved in medicine, none of these laws appear to be above and beyond what would be required of any other medical procedure.  I've never heard of any doctor prescribing a potentially dangerous medication without an in person exam.  Hemorrhage is a real risk with RU-486 pill, and administering it without a medical facility within an easy distance is foolish and dangerous.

Surgical abortion is absolutely surgery, why shouldn't it be performed in an ambulatory surgery facility? Also, this particular law appears to be related to fire codes.  Are they really upset over having to prove that they have sufficient fire sprinklers in place in case of a fire?

Ultrasounds, x-rays, MRI's, or CT scans are standard  before many surgeries.  Visualization of what will be operated on is generally considered standard practice. 

DUmmies, if abortion is just like any other medical procedure, then it deserves to be regulated like all other medical procedures, which does involve a lot of onerous rules and procedures.   
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: thundley4 on July 02, 2013, 11:52:42 AM
It is still easier to get the abortion pill than it is to get most medicines for animals from the vet.
Title: Re: Starting This Week, It’s Harder to Get an Abortion in 5 States
Post by: AllosaursRus on July 02, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
The government imposed free birth control. All they have to do is get off their backs and walk down to the pharmacy and get it.

There shouldn't be a need for elective abortion.

No shit, Snuggles! They hand out condoms in school for cripes sake!

When I was in school they confiscated them and you'd more often than not get a swat from the vice principal, and a letter home to Mommy and Daddy! I've seen some of the guys who thought they were the toughest guys in school start cryin' even before we got to the executioner's office! Didn't bother me much. The vice principal had nuttin' on my Step Dad and his belt! I still have a scar on my leg from one whippin' after I lied to him.

Teen pregnancy was 1/10 of what it is today. Hmmmmmmmmm, ya 'spose it might have been a better program?

We've really gone down hill in my country!