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Title: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Ptarmigan on June 28, 2013, 02:48:50 PM
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kelliekat44 (1,462 posts)

The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look like the criminal.
 The prosecutors have not done a good job in my opinion. There were plenty of places to object to what the defense was doing trying to put words in Rachel's mouth and make the jury believe that she actually said something she did not say.

The wounds in the pictures of Zimmerman look like they were from some object and not from a fist fight with the person he was following. Skittles must be a dangerous weapon. I would not put it past the police and Zimmerman staging these wounds...it's been done before. OK, i watch too much TV like the The First 48.
I agree the Zimmerman trial is a farce. DU is a farce.

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DesertFlower (8,995 posts)
1. at some point trayvon may have tried

to defend himself by hitting zimmerman's head on the concrete. they could have rolled around for a few minutes, but it's trayvon who's dead from a gunshot. who had the gun? who did the stalking? zimmerman was told not to pursue trayvon.

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DesertFlower (8,995 posts)
21. so how did zimmerman get the bloody nose

and scrapes on the back of his head? could he have done it to himself to make it look like he was defending himself?
:mental: :mental: :mental: :mental:

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Bjorn Against (8,330 posts)
6. I bet the defense attorney really pissed off the jury


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I listened to the questioning and he asked the same damn questions over and over again, the judge actually had to tell him to stop repeatedly asking the same question, he would then move on to repeatedly asking a different question over and over again, this went on for hours.

Think about this from the jury's perspective. They are being completely dragged away from their home for weeks, they can't work and jury duty pay sucks so they suffer financial hardship, they can't talk to anyone, can't spend time with their families, and then they watch an asshole ask the same damn questions over and over again to someone who tragically lost her friend and is clearly uncomfortable. If the jury feels this guy is intentionally wasting their time as he clearly is they will not like it.

As far as the prosecutors go I think they are putting on a much better show, they have been far more concise and do a much better job of presenting interesting evidence. And contrary to what you said they have objected on quite a few occassions, the objections seem to have been sustained more often than not, but they are not always sustained and that is why the questioning was allowed to continue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023114700
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: dandi on June 28, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
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kelliekat44 (1,462 posts)

The Zimmerman trial is a farce.

The DUmbass is right, but not for the reasons he imagines. The charges were politically-driven by a cowardly state government in order to appease certain interest groups. Even Alan Dershowitz was calling for sanctions against the state attorney for such trumped-up bullshit.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on June 28, 2013, 03:16:51 PM
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kelliekat44 (1,462 posts)

The Zimmerman trial is a farce.


Because it's not going the way I wanted.

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He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look like the criminal.
 The prosecutors have not done a good job in my opinion.

Because it's not going the way I wanted.

 
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There were plenty of places to object to what the defense was doing trying to put words in Rachel's mouth and make the jury believe that she actually said something she did not say.

Because I watched Perry Mason alot when I was little.....

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The wounds in the pictures of Zimmerman look like they were from some object and not from a fist fight with the person he was following.

Because, they were.  I said so.  Shut up.

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Skittles must be a dangerous weapon. I would not put it past the police and Zimmerman staging these wounds...it's been done before.


Every murder case ever committed.  You bet.  I know. because:

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OK, i watch too much TV like the The First 48.

Yeah.


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DesertFlower (8,995 posts)
21. so how did zimmerman get the bloody nose

and scrapes on the back of his head? could he have done it to himself to make it look like he was defending himself?

Or, he could have been straddled by St. Trayvon of the Immaculate Skittles and pounded across the face and into the sidewalk.  Like Zimmermans' sworn accounts, witnesses sworn testimony, etc, etc, etc.....
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 03:29:06 PM
I haven't been to the DUmp lately.
This might cause a stir.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-blockbuster-eyewitness-says-trayvon-on-top-punching-mixed-martial-arts-style/
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Zimmerman trial blockbuster — Eyewitness says Trayvon on top punching Mixed Martial Arts style

Posted by William A. Jacobson    Friday, June 28, 2013 at 10:32am

A neighbor, John Good, who witnessed the fight between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman has just devastated the State’s case, testifying that he saw the fight between the two, that Trayvon was on top punching Mixed Martial Arts style, and that the scream must have come from Zimmerman because Zimmerman was on the bottom and Trayvon was faced away from the witness.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: miskie on June 28, 2013, 03:37:47 PM
The best the prosecution can hope for now is to successfully force a mistrial
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: jukin on June 28, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
I looked in the magic 8 ball and see much more racist blacks threatening violence and rioting as the kangaroo court continues demonstrate that Trayvan was in the wrong and that Zimmerman's story is truth. The only thing they have left is to scare the jury into convicting an innocent man. Can't wait to see what the racist blacks have posted on Twitchy by tomorrow.

Even if George evades the witch hunt in this court you can safely bet that Eric the Red and his Department of Injustice will file charges against him for some made up crime. The point in all of this is to rile up the tribal blacks for the 2014 election and to show whit...crackers that you cannot defend yourself.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Texacon on June 28, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
I haven't been to the DUmp lately.
This might cause a stir.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/06/zimmerman-trial-blockbuster-eyewitness-says-trayvon-on-top-punching-mixed-martial-arts-style/

See, you would think that would cause a stir at the hive but if you go over there and look these people have convinced themselves that Rachel was a SUPER STAR on the stand and this guy is just some dumb ass no one should listen to and he didn't present himself well.

Yeah.

KC
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
Related thread, so not starting a new one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023120564
There's a lot of stupid in this one.
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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:34 PM

Star Member madaboutharry (21,256 posts)
Listening to Trayvon Martin trial
  
It seems that the entire defense of George Zimmerman is based on the theory that Trayvon Martin had no right to fight for his life.  
No, DUmbass. It was George, that felt his life was in danger.  Not Ombambi's son.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 28, 2013, 02:53 PM

Dub-V-You (42 posts)

5. So now we attack people who scare us? Ask Obambi's son...if you could.
Where was the imminent, physical threat? Photos???
Idiot just can't Quite understand the concept of evidence.
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Response to pnwmom (Reply #12)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 03:07 PM
Dub-V-You (42 posts)

17. Stand Your Ground isn't an issue in this trial
Zimmerman is claiming self defense.
Now, if you have evidence that Trayvon was about to be attacked when he hit Z, I'd love to see it
Photos taken by police are not evidence because DUmb-V, says so.
On and on they go.
Speculating and bloviating.
Very large campfire.
See, you would think that would cause a stir at the hive but if you go over there and look these people have convinced themselves that Rachel was a SUPER STAR on the stand and this guy is just some dumb ass no one should listen to and he didn't present himself well.

Yeah.

KC
Digging around for it when I found the above.
I do suspect you're right.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 04:09:43 PM
OK, found one.
Starts at comment 6.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023118114
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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:44 AM
GreenStormCloud (10,523 posts)
ZIMMERMAN TRIAL: Day 5, Friday - June 28, 2013 
Instead of multiple threads about aspects of the trial, let's combine them into one master thread.
Live feed, no commercials, no commentators: http://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/live-zimmerman-trial-jury-selection-day-6/
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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:30 AM
GreenStormCloud (10,523 posts)
6. John Good to stand now
He was the closest witness. 
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Response to GreenStormCloud (Original post)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:53 AM
GreenStormCloud (10,523 posts)
8. Good's testimony is really helping the defense. N/T
And awaaaaay they went.  :lmao:
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Airwolf on June 28, 2013, 04:16:44 PM
Ever since Trayvons so called girlfriend took the stand yesterday it's been an uphill fight. They should have kept her out of the starting line up and her mouth shut since they found out she removed several embarrassing and incriminating tweets
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 04:30:33 PM
Ever since Trayvons so called girlfriend took the stand yesterday it's been an uphill fight. They should have kept her out of the starting line up and her mouth shut since they found out she removed several embarrassing and incriminating tweets
I'll give that girl credit for answering and responding the best she could.
Unfortunately, they weren't what the persecutors prosecutors wanted.
She damaged their case, and Mr. Good, has pounded another nail.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: dandi on June 28, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
Related thread, so not starting a new one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023120564

That thread was epic. Dub-V-You piled multiple DUmmy asses on a silver platter and handed it back to them.

Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: dane on June 28, 2013, 05:10:44 PM
I noticed ever since the incident first occurred, DUmmies always refer to Zimmerman by his last name only, whereas Martin has always been Trayvon, and now his 'friend' Rachel - first name basis for both.

I can't put a finger on a reason for this, other than the DUmmies want their victimized heroes to be more like family, hence the first names.

Could this be the reason?
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: zeitgeist on June 28, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
And the DUmmies are all conflicted about who or what a "Hispanic" is.

This one is "An Honest Question ... Is Zimmerman not  a person of color"
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023121154


All manner of hilarity ensues.   :whistling:
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 05:27:28 PM
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kelliekat44 (1,462 posts)

The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look like the criminal.
 The prosecutors have not done a good job in my opinion. There were plenty of places to object to what the defense was doing trying to put words in Rachel's mouth and make the jury believe that she actually said something she did not say.

The wounds in the pictures of Zimmerman look like they were from some object and not from a fist fight with the person he was following. Skittles must be a dangerous weapon. I would not put it past the police and Zimmerman staging these wounds...it's been done before. OK, i watch too much TV like the The First 48.

Hmmmm.... well dummie, all the facts haven't come out in the case yet. Another witness testified today. An eyewitness. A prosecution witness.

First paragraph of the article:

"A resident of the gated community where Trayvon Martin was killed told a Florida court Friday he saw the unarmed teen punching George Zimmerman before the two had a fatal confrontation in February of 2012."

The facts will come out (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/28/19192751-witness-to-zimmerman-martin-tussle-says-he-saw-punches-being-thrown?lite)

And this was from MSNBC.

I don't know what happened that night. I do think the cops not wanting to press charges at the start doesn't look good for the prosecution.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Linda on June 28, 2013, 05:46:19 PM
I have been watching most of the trial on TV, I tell you what, I have never seen or heard of another case that the prosecution provided so many good witnesses for the defense.

Even the local news reporters are talking about how good these witnesses are for Zimmerman.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 05:53:15 PM
I have been watching most of the trial on TV, I tell you what, I have never seen or heard of another case that the prosecution provided so many good witnesses for the defense.

Even the local news reporters are talking about how good these witnesses are for Zimmerman.

My 2 cents Linda... this is beginning to look like it is nothing more than a witch hunt. I do not know the facts, nor do I pretend to. That is for the jury. All I am saying is that when the cops and local prosecutor declined to charge and indict, that says a lot.   :cheersmate: :cheersmate:

Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Freeper on June 28, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
My 2 cents Linda... this is beginning to look like it is nothing more than a witch hunt. I do not know the facts, nor do I pretend to. That is for the jury. All I am saying is that when the cops and local prosecutor declined to charge and indict, that says a lot.   :cheersmate: :cheersmate:



The only reason there is a trial was due to political pressure. The media, MSNBC especially turned the whole thing into a racial issue by editing tapes. Then the preezy opened his big fat mouth and said Trayvon would look like his son. Then we find out that Saint Skittles called the white Hispanic a creepy ass cracker, but he was black so racial slurs are fine and dandy.  :banghead:

Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
The only reason there is a trial was due to political pressure. The media, MSNBC especially turned the whole thing into a racial issue by editing tapes. Then the preezy opened his big fat mouth and said Trayvon would look like his son. Then we find out that Saint Skittles called the white Hispanic a creepy ass cracker, but he was black so racial slurs are fine and dandy.  :banghead:



Freep... My test for the whole thing would be:

"If it was two black guys, two white guys, two hispanic guys, what would have happened in regards to prosecution?"

Doesn't pass the smell test to me.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 06:38:33 PM
The link that Perky posted, up a few comments, is interesting.
Here it is..... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/28/19192751-witness-to-zimmerman-martin-tussle-says-he-saw-punches-being-thrown?lite
Starting to think the prosecution really didn't want that case.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 06:56:16 PM
The link that Perky posted, up a few comments, is interesting.
Here it is..... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/28/19192751-witness-to-zimmerman-martin-tussle-says-he-saw-punches-being-thrown?lite
Starting to think the prosecution really didn't want that case.

Did you read the comments on that article, Skul? Seems the liberal are at each others throats everywhere. Check them out. MSNBC is the dump on steriods and they actually let people some people comment that go against the hive mind.  :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 06:57:31 PM
Just as an aside here folks... Frank was wanting something to wire the dummies up. I think he got it.  :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 28, 2013, 08:11:01 PM
The link that Perky posted, up a few comments, is interesting.
Here it is..... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/28/19192751-witness-to-zimmerman-martin-tussle-says-he-saw-punches-being-thrown?lite
Starting to think the prosecution really didn't want that case.

Another witness' account of the events. Oh this is gonna get good at the dump.  :popcorn: :popcorn:

Another side of the story (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/28/zimmerman-defense-grills-witness-for-second-day/?test=latestnews)
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Carl on June 28, 2013, 08:27:57 PM
Sorry,everyone can dog pile me if they want but the bottom line is if the jury is a bunch of leftists or Milquetoast apoliticals then Zimmerman is finished.
The lefties do not for one second believe in blind justice,everything to them has to fit a political ideology no matter what the facts are.
The little thug was trying to beat George to death...it was because of his distrust of a "white" person so who can blame him...not guilty.
The spineless rest will go along because well,it just seems like the best and right outcome for everything to go away.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Skul on June 28, 2013, 08:49:27 PM
Did you read the comments on that article, Skul? Seems the liberal are at each others throats everywhere. Check them out. MSNBC is the dump on steriods and they actually let people some people comment that go against the hive mind.  :popcorn: :popcorn:
That was the strange part.  Kind of mimicked the DUmp, in many ways.
Feet stomping and little fists clinching.
That was good find.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: jukin on June 29, 2013, 09:15:53 AM
Sorry,everyone can dog pile me if they want but the bottom line is if the jury is a bunch of leftists or Milquetoast apoliticals then Zimmerman is finished.
The lefties do not for one second believe in blind justice,everything to them has to fit a political ideology no matter what the facts are.
The little thug was trying to beat George to death...it was because of his distrust of a "white" person so who can blame him...not guilty.
The spineless rest will go along because well,it just seems like the best and right outcome for everything to go away.

I agree but do not discount the threat of riots and personal death threats. This is nothing more than a kangaroo court. It is official, we are now a third world banana republic. Even if George does escape this lynch mob Eric the Red and his Department of Injustice will swoop down and continue to make his life a nightmare.

I do know that if George's last name was Ramirez, Guiterrez, or Martinez he would be a free man. The DNC propagandists thought this was too good to check and that's why we have the new lexicon in our vernacular "White-Hispanic."
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Linda on June 29, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
If Zimmerman manages to get the not guilty verdict, I see the same thing happening to him as happened to those cops in California...He will be sued for violating Martin's civil rights.
Title: Re: The Zimmerman trial is a farce. He's going to walk and Rachel is going to look l
Post by: Freeper on June 29, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
Sorry,everyone can dog pile me if they want but the bottom line is if the jury is a bunch of leftists or Milquetoast apoliticals then Zimmerman is finished.
The lefties do not for one second believe in blind justice,everything to them has to fit a political ideology no matter what the facts are.
The little thug was trying to beat George to death...it was because of his distrust of a "white" person so who can blame him...not guilty.
The spineless rest will go along because well,it just seems like the best and right outcome for everything to go away.

Why would anyone dogpile on you for that?

I would guess just about everyone here would agree with that premise.