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Title: McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform
Post by: Freeper on June 28, 2013, 08:25:17 AM
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Tx4obama (30,277 posts)

McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform


 

McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform

Moments after immigration reform passed the Senate Thursday by a whopping 68-32 vote, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) gently nudged his House colleagues to do what it takes to ensure the success of a comprehensive overhaul.

“We will be doing whatever we can to convince our colleagues in a respectful manner,” he told a handful of reporters just off the Senate floor. “None of our colleagues on the other side of the Capitol like to be talked down to or given tutorials. They have their own views and we respect them. And we need to have a respectful dialogue.”

The Arizona Republican is a crucial figure in the reform effort — a member of the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” senators that struck the deal that formed the foundation of the legislation. Much has been made about the GOP’s death spiral with Hispanic voters, the country’s fastest-growing demographic, which resoundingly voted for Barack Obama twice.

TPM asked McCain if Republicans can recover in 2016 if the overhaul falters and if the party nominates a pro-immigration candidate. He took a deep breath and shook his head.

“No,” he said.

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Full article here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/mccain-republicans-immigration-reform.php?ref=fpb

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251313318

And people wonder why I have been so negative lately. The GOP has sold out us out and even more importantly they have sold this country out.
I can't help but wonder after they lose in 2014 if the GOP will decide they need to be anti gun in order to win.

Why is it every time the GOP loses their strategy is to become more like the democrats? Do they really think that they will suddenly get the moonbat votes? Even if they get some moonbat votes how do they expect to win without us?

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Arkana (22,343 posts)
3. I don't think McCain realizes that they don't care.

They are fully prepared to shoot as many hostages as they can until we give them the brutal, oppressive theocracy that they want.

It's time we started turning the theocracy argument against the left, if anyone is aiming for a theocracy it is the left, they want this country to be run by the church of liberalism and the god of government. We on the other hand are quite content to leave people the hell alone and to be left alone.

Title: Re: McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 28, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
War hero coinage will only buy so much respect and forgiveness.....and to me now, John McCain is flat broke.
Title: Re: McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed
Post by: USA4ME on June 28, 2013, 09:51:46 AM
Why is it every time the GOP loses their strategy is to become more like the democrats? Do they really think that they will suddenly get the moonbat votes? Even if they get some moonbat votes how do they expect to win without us?

I was talking to someone about just this very subject a few weeks ago.

This friend of mine is a Rockefeller Republican and he was saying the Republican Party can't survive on just the base it has, that they're going to have to attract more women and minority votes.  I said they could by being strong on conservative values and showing these groups how it's in their best interest, too.  Of course he's more in tune with the old NE Republicans who were pro-gov't, they just thought they could run it better than the Democrats, so he doesn't want conservatism to be dominant.  I explained to him that for every non-conservative voter the Republicans will attract, they'll lose at minimum one true conservative voter, that essentially the conservatives will have no where to go. He didn't agree.

I get the feeling the Republicans are doing what the Dems have done for decades, which is the "where else will they go?" type attitude.  They believe they'll lose some, but they'll gain more in other areas, and the conservatives will have no where else to go.  To me that's quite a gamble on their part since, unlike liberals who say they'll leave the Dems but they always come around, conservatives have principles and will walk away for good.

All I know for certain is that if both major parties trend left, then Rome is coming to its conclusion, and I'll live my life accordingly.

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Title: Re: McCain Gently Warns House GOP: We’re Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform
Post by: jukin on June 28, 2013, 10:17:21 AM
McCain is still pissed of that Bush got the nod in 2000 and has been taking it out on the party ever sense. 

I'm beginning to think we dodged a bullet in 08. Sure 0bama is terrible as president but there is not much of a difference between the two on most issues. IMO, the leftist big government agenda would have gone much faster with McCain as president. Nanzi and Harry would have still pushed the bills through and McCain would have jumped across the line to sign them. Only thing is the republicans would have been with him. In all likely hood there would have been more anti-freedom 3000 page bills passed and signed.

Also, if McCain told me to turn left I would turn right and be correct 99.990% of the time.
Title: Re: McCain ... Doomed If You Screw Up Immigration Reform
Post by: ExGeeEye on June 28, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
McCain-- I voted for you once because the alternative was unthinkable, and I was right.

However, the surest route to destruction of the Republican Party is alienation of the base.

For "base", see "Tea Party".

Pander to us for a change, and your party's political fortunes will soar beyond your wildest dreams.

You yourself have proven completely untrustworthy.  Retire gracefully.  Go home.  Write a book for the Annapolis library.  Good-bye.