undergroundpanther (11,601 posts)
What about the weak makes the strong hate them?
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Being poor isn't always the poor person's fault.I'm poor. wonder why I am the object of right-wing scorn,hate and smear.I can hardly function.Depression draws my days away,dissociation has made much unbearable.My life is not happy or anything.I had dreams but it seems I never had enough money to live them,so I have given up on dreams.
In 4th. grade I wanted to be a veterinarian,study the lives of south american cats,living in the treetops.But no,even though I had a teacher notice I was intelligent and had me on my own study modules,nothing ever was done about it by the school. Ever since 1st. grade I was being bullied all day,and even though this one teacher was so very kind and observant ,it was not enough to overcome the damage done by a violent cold home life or the bullying ,bullying that happened as teachers stood by watching gangs of kids trying to corner me by the fence in the playground to beat my ass.
I never knew WHY I was hated by the entire school.I was hated by people in schools I didn't even attend. I just knew the world seemed to reject me,and that knowledge was seared into my soul everyday. By time I got to high school I had deteriorated and lost it.I spent many years in the psych system.The psych system did plenty of damage,drugs ,restraints, solitary confinement,mind games,humiliation,the psych wards are sometimes run by sociopaths. The power structure of a psych unit is a set-up just like the Stanford Prison Experiment.And so is our society.
Sometimes it would be dangerous to defend yourself or stand up for another whom you know was innocent. To have a moral backbone meant you got targeted as a troublemaker. And I was. Some psych wards and treatment centers have been very abusive to me and will not accept me because of this. It's stupid and sad but the autrhoritarians running these places HATE me.And that makes me laugh inwardly.I'm doing something right. I worry about the people there though living under these asshats.
And I see this same old shit republicans do and people that don't care do all over again like the assholes who put wounds in my mind and body reflected in the backlash against the Moral March in NC.on the 17th,already the Civitas bullies are making a hate list. Just like Bully kids would make obscene drawings of me and drop them casually on my desk knowing it would hurt me,trigger me.What kind of monster would find joy in doing that? A person without love,empathy or an understanding that I am because We are.
I hate the bible,but even a broke clock is right twice a day..The line,The world hates me, the world hated me from the beginning and it will hate you too..The world seems to hate anyone who stands up for the weak and abused and say NO you can't treat people like that. Love & empathy in a person makes it so, You hurt I hurt because WE hurt.So you have to do something about it,your entire being is pushing you to stand up for WE.
I am so tired,the house I'm living in,the only safe place I've ever known, is being auctioned off in September.I have no clue where to go or what to do. My mind is frozen overwhelmed.
My family plans things behind my back.I have very little reason to live really.I don't know what anyone's plans are.The program I go to they ain't helping me with this. All I want to do is curl up in a ball. But I can't,and there is nothing I can do.So I sit here unable to be calm.To not have anger,sadness,frustration,anxiety eating me up day after day.
But everyday it seems those of us who are hated,those of us who have an ethical understanding of right and wrong on a deep level are being hurt. We have been voiceless,corrupted abused,fighting a battle that never stops against those who see freedom as the freedom to abuse,exploit,dominate,control or use people. I have to exist if anything to keep screaming NO!!! to those who would destroy.
I dreamed of making this house a sanctuary,I tried to find good roommates who had empathy but they wouldn't contribute to the household they had no understanding of I exist because we are. And some were very exploitative,sociopaths,I had to evict them because they were abusing me..
It was emotional torture trying to make a sanctuary..
Anyway I try to help regardless where there is someone who needs me to if they ask.I volunteer to help too,I try to do what I can, and I don't by stand regarding abuse~ever.. But lack of money makes life so ****ing hard to live because being poor,disabled,having PTSD gives you a stigma,a stigmata that will follow you everywhere no matter your kindness ,intelligence ,creativity,courage or love...or dreams that have died or still live.
Joy is rare thing when you are so raw inside and aware,of what evil the assholes of this world do and want to do .I'm scared. TPP,the spying,and more. I know deep down we are being set up somehow,to be made powerless, to stop those who would dominate us and play king,god itself with our lives..I do not bow to gods or kings. They'll try to break me.They'll try to break all of us who are honest,have a mind of our own care and have courage in our hearts.
Would I be labeled a terraist because I tell the truth or get frustrated and rant my true feelings? especially because I'm poor,crazy and have guts to say no and tell the truth to power...Yeah.
I have been been mistreated for shaming authoritarians who'd rather get people to believe lies.
Why? Is it because the bullies out there,the republicans convinced themselves am I everything that is wong with society.They SAY it's because I'm poor and disabled .But I think it is by what others have done to me in the name of trying to make me be what they wanted me to be,or to control me or exploit my tender heart,my body.And I didn't just shut up ,blend in,and go along with it.Because I won't tolerate abuse,and I am aware of what the mind of a sociopath is about.
I never asked to be born. I often wish my body didn't require food or water ,never had to sleep,could not get sick or get wounded and that my mind had never been hurt, and could never be hurt or manipulated that my body could never be violated, that I was beautiful and popular and seen as a good person,there was nothing wrong with me. I bet alot of people wish that too.
I wish I could be happy.Protected from the cruelty in this world ,find joy in something,be a joy to be around all the time, be free of the constant stress of worrying about survival and protecting my mind and body,and the dangers this civilization game brings to humanity .But why I can't handle what others take in stride I do not know. It makes me feel incompetent. But I deal with it all anyway.But I can feel the damage it is doing.
I wish I was more entertaining,fun had friends who liked to come over and hang out maybe do things together ,maybe even try to change things in the world. In reality I live isolated mostly. Transportation is a problem,I have problems ,others are stressed and have problems.This world is a monster to me,and the hatred of the weak by the wealthy ,the strong,the healthy, the popular,the 'attractive' is pathological,it surrounds us like toxic air and it will ruin our ability to survive together or ever know what it means to be safe more than awhile.
The cycles of war,peace,democracies,authoritarianism,war, peace,have been going forever.Just like the cycle of violence in an abusive relationship it's the macro and the micro,same pattern..How long will we suffer the cycles of empire and the hyper exploitation civilization and the market and abuse causes until all the I's get together into a WE, say NO more you,WE have had enough of THAT shit out of the likes of you..
Everyone has to find it inside themselves to become a WE and stand up to the smooth talking manipulators,liars and bullies,the fear inside, the hateful people and tell them to shut up and do what is necessary to stop them,even if it's death.Death not to deter crime or punish people. But to stop the abuser who refuses to stop abusing others.Sometimes the abuser won't get it with words or a punch in the nose.Sometimes you have to do what most think is wrong to do what is right,that is what I mean by a Deeper moral understanding. If you are not a sociopath you cannot become one,even if you kill a sociopath. Sociopathy is not contagious no matter how bad you have been abused. It takes a certain personality type to be an abuser\sociopath\ rule the world and micromangage millions of lives via technology and seek full spectrum domination over others lives in this entire world who are not for the most part sociopaths.
And until people quit being solipsists,understand some people are NOT like themselves,recognize what a real danger is VS. themselves making bogeyman,being manipulated emotionally, being offended or freaked out themselves things won't change.People need to own their emotions and quit thinking something that's different is always dangerous because they feel anxiety,uneasy offended or scared.People need to emotionally mature. And that means seeing that we all are not the same,we are equal and different at the same time and that is to a point OK.
But also some people among us really do exist that love to tear down dreams,to scapegoat,to bully ,to take and society will never be safe and people to exist around because these bullies they just don't want to stop doing the abuse stop the bullying,stop hating, stop thinking themselves superior and entitled to take it all to themselves,those so called 'winners'.
Some people they actually like causing harm to others,dominating them,tearing them apart.And these people think they are so much superior,we can chicken and egg the causes of sociopaths all day,love will not change them,therapy can't help because they like getting bashing those who cannot fight back, they like getting away with abuse,being assholes and monsters and they love to tear the souls out of people like me because they think I am inferior to themselves.Every social darwinist asshole puts themselves as superior.And they don't see any reason to change what they are.
But I know what they do they project upon the ones they hate,the weak,the poor,disabled,victims,what they really under that 'winner'mask, what they truly ARE.
They try to force us the victims,the poor,the people who care and are wounded to become like THEM in personality by abusing us hating us keeping us poor,hurt powerless.Because if we abuse,exploit,hate,use,rape,destroy others souls,The bullies have no one who dares stand up to say NO to what the sociopaths do to the ones like me who don't give up on our moral understanding of right and wrong and don't keep our eyes down when looking at a wannabe king..The sociopath can get away with causing pain to others and shutting down empathy and killing love itself if people LET them.
The sociopath,the republican asshole,the assholes everywhere they want a world without love courage,wisdom,understanding,kindness empathy,honesty and bravery,for these are the things inside some of us that says NO to racism,authoritarianism,abuse,financial abuse and all the other b horrors these anti humane asshole people try to do to others,especially those who are wounded by their kind,or can't fight back.
Someday I have a silly dream I can't let go of that maybe people will stop letting bullies who think their superior rule,maybe someday ...we will finally agree...I am because we are. and we will not be abused anymore because of a few I's that will not change who want to rule,abuse and exploit.My life has sent me asking why and my whys led to this.We have to stand up not just a few,all of us who do not like to abuse others.
The truth is this world never had to become like this. It does not have to be a monster, it will have death, sickness,injury and isn't that painful enough?.The sociopaths among us want to be passive monsters let them do what they want.We have to say NO you can't do that to US because I say NO, and I have a right to be what I am because WE have a right to be what WE are.Even if YOU,social darwinist self entitling,vicious,morally dead,empty ,black heart,do not care, cannot love,want power over us more than life itself,bully do not like it. Society has grown so big atomized and impersonal it has took away some of our power.WE have to get aquainted with I,US and EACH OTHER again, to become WE again..
Someday maybe WE will break up and leave the abuser and the abusive system.
Until then I can and anyone else who'll join in can scream NO You can't DO that to me because WE are not going to tolerate the intolerable anymore. Sadly this hell will remain.The murder will continue,the bullying and hate will the exploitation and abuse will.The strong will hate the weak, will remain until WE do something to stop it. We have to save each other to save ourselves. The world does not have to be like this.
polly7 (7,884 posts)
1. Absolutely brilliant post, undergroundpanther. nt.
Catherina (30,131 posts)
2. "We have to save each other to save ourselves. The world does not have to be like this"
NO it doesn't and it can't be, at least we have to do everything we can to fight these injustices, these monstrosities.
I've been proud to stand by your side in this fight and I will always be.
I'm concerned about your living situation. Please check your inbox dear Undergroundpanther.
"We have to save each other to save ourselves."
That's the simple truth of your brilliant rant.
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treestar (41,707 posts)
4. Fear of it in themselves
They fear they could succumb to weakness.
undergroundpanther (11,601 posts)
6. They are weak already
they cannot love. They will not share,refuse to face what they are, they are petrified of differences,petrified of another's freedom to say no,they won't understand, don't want to care,so they do thier best to make us, like them . But they can't no matter how much they hurt us.
GoCubsGo (13,198 posts)
15. Exactly right.
They aren't "stronger". They are a bunch of scared, ignorant cowards who fear everything and everyone that doesn't fit in their narrow, little worlds. What they are really doing is bullying people.
LiberalEsto (16,944 posts)
9. Fear, definitely
Some, not all but some, of these people are scared shitless deep inside. They hate this part of themselves, so they abuse the hell out of those who overtly show fear.
Sometimes I wonder if I could have escaped some of the childhood bullying by learning to act tough and appearing willing to fight back. Unfortunately I was raised by European immigrants who taught me to fear and respect teachers and other authority figures, and to be meek, passive and obedient. I was taught to never argue or fight back. In other words, I received the perfect training to be a bullying victim.
Undergroundpanther, I think there are a lot of people on DU who not only don't hate you, but actually like you.
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99Forever (5,376 posts)
5. It really does baffle the mind to...
...try and comprehend what drives the heartless bastards.
And you are absolutely correct that the world does not have to be like this, but sadly as long as we nothing but bullies on one side of the aisle, and spineless surrender monkeys on the other, the kind of REAL CHANGE, not campaign LIES, will not happen.
undergroundpanther (11,601 posts)
7. It's pointless to try to comprehend it
People have been trying to since ancient times.Maybe you should listen to the monsters themselves and what they say to explain themselves. Not after they are caught,but before..Like,because I can,I feel like it,or "you" made me do so and so,usually aimed at a person they've victimized in private. Could it be these empty hearted emotionally dead monsters in human suits do such evil becauuse they're bored and can get away with it?
You are seeing a sociopath from your own perspective. Too many people do that,and it helps the abuse continue.
Maybe WHY is the wrong question. Maybe the question we should be asking is Why do WE let this happen? Why do WE tolerate the intolerable behavior of some people.What good is it doing to help the world tolerating all this abuse by some people?
zeemike (11,151 posts)
10. As you probably know, I agree with you.
But the simple answer is that if they have someone to look down on it makes them feel higher...They themselves are insecure.
gtar100 (2,576 posts)
11. Love and justice are real. And those who hate that which is inherently good
are living in denial at their own peril. Because I desire justice and feel it tear at the very fabric of my being when I see someone being violated and abused, I know that it is elemental to this universe. I didn't create this longing for justice and by your words and others who have inspired me I know it exists independent of me. Even if its fruition were to take the lifetime of several universes, it still seems reckless and foolish to willingly cause others suffering and pain for the sake of personal pleasure and gain. True justice demands complete restitution.
Iliyah (2,539 posts)
13. Greed
"Is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. . ."
Gluttony "Is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires"
People who crave power over others are afraid of losing statute, and their material things.
You are far from being alone in your reality. I believe the so called powerful loses sight of civil and compassionate reality.
DirkGently (7,110 posts)
14. Fear. And ignorance.
Those are inherent human flaws that we are supposed to fight to overcome with our minds and hearts. Some people see pushing down as a way to raise themselves up.
This post stopped me dead in my tracks. You've hit all the nails I hope people come here to hammer on, beautifully.
Spirochete (4,240 posts)
17. They aren't truly strong
they just happen to be in a position of advantage that allows them to kick those around who are not. Someone strong wouldn't feel the need to do that. They're just mean.
I never knew WHY I was hated by the entire school.I was hated by people in schools I didn't even attend.:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Actually I read that and I feel pity for her. She lives in a world she can't comprehend and blames that on the world. It is like hating the English language because you can't speak very will and misunderstand everything that is said to you. She lays blame on the mouth that speaks and the ears that hear instead of the mind that can't comprehend.
Where else is she to go?
undergroundpanther
What about the weak makes the strong hate them?
Being poor isn't always the poor person's fault.I'm poor. wonder why I am the object of right-wing scorn,hate and smear.I can hardly function.Depression draws my days away,dissociation has made much unbearable.My life is not happy or anything.I had dreams but it seems I never had enough money to live them,so I have given up on dreams.
In 4th. grade I wanted to be a veterinarian,study the lives of south american cats,living in the treetops.But no,even though I had a teacher notice I was intelligent and had me on my own study modules,nothing ever was done about it by the school. Ever since 1st. grade I was being bullied all day,and even though this one teacher was so very kind and observant ,it was not enough to overcome the damage done by a violent cold home life or the bullying ,bullying that happened as teachers stood by watching gangs of kids trying to corner me by the fence in the playground to beat my ass.
I never knew WHY I was hated by the entire school.I was hated by people in schools I didn't even attend. I just knew the world seemed to reject me,and that knowledge was seared into my soul everyday. By time I got to high school I had deteriorated and lost it.I spent many years in the psych system.The psych system did plenty of damage,drugs ,restraints, solitary confinement,mind games,humiliation,the psych wards are sometimes run by sociopaths. The power structure of a psych unit is a set-up just like the Stanford Prison Experiment.And so is our society.
Sometimes it would be dangerous to defend yourself or stand up for another whom you know was innocent. To have a moral backbone meant you got targeted as a troublemaker. And I was. Some psych wards and treatment centers have been very abusive to me and will not accept me because of this. It's stupid and sad but the autrhoritarians running these places HATE me.And that makes me laugh inwardly.I'm doing something right. I worry about the people there though living under these asshats.
And I see this same old shit republicans do and people that don't care do all over again like the assholes who put wounds in my mind and body reflected in the backlash against the Moral March in NC.on the 17th,already the Civitas bullies are making a hate list. Just like Bully kids would make obscene drawings of me and drop them casually on my desk knowing it would hurt me,trigger me.What kind of monster would find joy in doing that? A person without love,empathy or an understanding that I am because We are.
I hate the bible,but even a broke clock is right twice a day..The line,The world hates me, the world hated me from the beginning and it will hate you too..The world seems to hate anyone who stands up for the weak and abused and say NO you can't treat people like that. Love & empathy in a person makes it so, You hurt I hurt because WE hurt.So you have to do something about it,your entire being is pushing you to stand up for WE.
I am so tired,the house I'm living in,the only safe place I've ever known, is being auctioned off in September.I have no clue where to go or what to do. My mind is frozen overwhelmed.
My family plans things behind my back.I have very little reason to live really.I don't know what anyone's plans are.The program I go to they ain't helping me with this. All I want to do is curl up in a ball. But I can't,and there is nothing I can do.So I sit here unable to be calm.To not have anger,sadness,frustration,anxiety eating me up day after day.
But everyday it seems those of us who are hated,those of us who have an ethical understanding of right and wrong on a deep level are being hurt. We have been voiceless,corrupted abused,fighting a battle that never stops against those who see freedom as the freedom to abuse,exploit,dominate,control or use people. I have to exist if anything to keep screaming NO!!! to those who would destroy.
I dreamed of making this house a sanctuary,I tried to find good roommates who had empathy but they wouldn't contribute to the household they had no understanding of I exist because we are. And some were very exploitative,sociopaths,I had to evict them because they were abusing me..
It was emotional torture trying to make a sanctuary..
Anyway I try to help regardless where there is someone who needs me to if they ask.I volunteer to help too,I try to do what I can, and I don't by stand regarding abuse~ever.. But lack of money makes life so ****ing hard to live because being poor,disabled,having PTSD gives you a stigma,a stigmata that will follow you everywhere no matter your kindness ,intelligence ,creativity,courage or love...or dreams that have died or still live.
Joy is rare thing when you are so raw inside and aware,of what evil the assholes of this world do and want to do .I'm scared. TPP,the spying,and more. I know deep down we are being set up somehow,to be made powerless, to stop those who would dominate us and play king,god itself with our lives..I do not bow to gods or kings. They'll try to break me.They'll try to break all of us who are honest,have a mind of our own care and have courage in our hearts.
Would I be labeled a terraist because I tell the truth or get frustrated and rant my true feelings? especially because I'm poor,crazy and have guts to say no and tell the truth to power...Yeah.
I have been been mistreated for shaming authoritarians who'd rather get people to believe lies.
Why? Is it because the bullies out there,the republicans convinced themselves am I everything that is wong with society.They SAY it's because I'm poor and disabled .But I think it is by what others have done to me in the name of trying to make me be what they wanted me to be,or to control me or exploit my tender heart,my body.And I didn't just shut up ,blend in,and go along with it.Because I won't tolerate abuse,and I am aware of what the mind of a sociopath is about.
I never asked to be born. I often wish my body didn't require food or water ,never had to sleep,could not get sick or get wounded and that my mind had never been hurt, and could never be hurt or manipulated that my body could never be violated, that I was beautiful and popular and seen as a good person,there was nothing wrong with me. I bet alot of people wish that too.
I wish I could be happy.Protected from the cruelty in this world ,find joy in something,be a joy to be around all the time, be free of the constant stress of worrying about survival and protecting my mind and body,and the dangers this civilization game brings to humanity .But why I can't handle what others take in stride I do not know. It makes me feel incompetent. But I deal with it all anyway.But I can feel the damage it is doing.
I wish I was more entertaining,fun had friends who liked to come over and hang out maybe do things together ,maybe even try to change things in the world. In reality I live isolated mostly. Transportation is a problem,I have problems ,others are stressed and have problems.This world is a monster to me,and the hatred of the weak by the wealthy ,the strong,the healthy, the popular,the 'attractive' is pathological,it surrounds us like toxic air and it will ruin our ability to survive together or ever know what it means to be safe more than awhile.
The cycles of war,peace,democracies,authoritarianism,war, peace,have been going forever.Just like the cycle of violence in an abusive relationship it's the macro and the micro,same pattern..How long will we suffer the cycles of empire and the hyper exploitation civilization and the market and abuse causes until all the I's get together into a WE, say NO more you,WE have had enough of THAT shit out of the likes of you..
Everyone has to find it inside themselves to become a WE and stand up to the smooth talking manipulators,liars and bullies,the fear inside, the hateful people and tell them to shut up and do what is necessary to stop them,even if it's death.Death not to deter crime or punish people. But to stop the abuser who refuses to stop abusing others.Sometimes the abuser won't get it with words or a punch in the nose.Sometimes you have to do what most think is wrong to do what is right,that is what I mean by a Deeper moral understanding. If you are not a sociopath you cannot become one,even if you kill a sociopath. Sociopathy is not contagious no matter how bad you have been abused. It takes a certain personality type to be an abuser\sociopath\ rule the world and micromangage millions of lives via technology and seek full spectrum domination over others lives in this entire world who are not for the most part sociopaths.
And until people quit being solipsists,understand some people are NOT like themselves,recognize what a real danger is VS. themselves making bogeyman,being manipulated emotionally, being offended or freaked out themselves things won't change.People need to own their emotions and quit thinking something that's different is always dangerous because they feel anxiety,uneasy offended or scared.People need to emotionally mature. And that means seeing that we all are not the same,we are equal and different at the same time and that is to a point OK.
But also some people among us really do exist that love to tear down dreams,to scapegoat,to bully ,to take and society will never be safe and people to exist around because these bullies they just don't want to stop doing the abuse stop the bullying,stop hating, stop thinking themselves superior and entitled to take it all to themselves,those so called 'winners'.
Some people they actually like causing harm to others,dominating them,tearing them apart.And these people think they are so much superior,we can chicken and egg the causes of sociopaths all day,love will not change them,therapy can't help because they like getting bashing those who cannot fight back, they like getting away with abuse,being assholes and monsters and they love to tear the souls out of people like me because they think I am inferior to themselves.Every social darwinist asshole puts themselves as superior.And they don't see any reason to change what they are.
But I know what they do they project upon the ones they hate,the weak,the poor,disabled,victims,what they really under that 'winner'mask, what they truly ARE.
They try to force us the victims,the poor,the people who care and are wounded to become like THEM in personality by abusing us hating us keeping us poor,hurt powerless.Because if we abuse,exploit,hate,use,rape,destroy others souls,The bullies have no one who dares stand up to say NO to what the sociopaths do to the ones like me who don't give up on our moral understanding of right and wrong and don't keep our eyes down when looking at a wannabe king..The sociopath can get away with causing pain to others and shutting down empathy and killing love itself if people LET them.
The sociopath,the republican asshole,the assholes everywhere they want a world without love courage,wisdom,understanding,kindness empathy,honesty and bravery,for these are the things inside some of us that says NO to racism,authoritarianism,abuse,financial abuse and all the other b horrors these anti humane asshole people try to do to others,especially those who are wounded by their kind,or can't fight back.
Someday I have a silly dream I can't let go of that maybe people will stop letting bullies who think their superior rule,maybe someday ...we will finally agree...I am because we are. and we will not be abused anymore because of a few I's that will not change who want to rule,abuse and exploit.My life has sent me asking why and my whys led to this.We have to stand up not just a few,all of us who do not like to abuse others.
The truth is this world never had to become like this. It does not have to be a monster, it will have death, sickness,injury and isn't that painful enough?.The sociopaths among us want to be passive monsters let them do what they want.We have to say NO you can't do that to US because I say NO, and I have a right to be what I am because WE have a right to be what WE are.Even if YOU,social darwinist self entitling,vicious,morally dead,empty ,black heart,do not care, cannot love,want power over us more than life itself,bully do not like it. Society has grown so big atomized and impersonal it has took away some of our power.WE have to get aquainted with I,US and EACH OTHER again, to become WE again..
Someday maybe WE will break up and leave the abuser and the abusive system.
Until then I can and anyone else who'll join in can scream NO You can't DO that to me because WE are not going to tolerate the intolerable anymore. Sadly this hell will remain.The murder will continue,the bullying and hate will the exploitation and abuse will.The strong will hate the weak, will remain until WE do something to stop it. We have to save each other to save ourselves. The world does not have to be like this.
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polly7
1. Absolutely brilliant post, undergroundpanther.
Catherina
2. "We have to save each other to save ourselves. The world does not have to be like this"
NO it doesn't and it can't be, at least we have to do everything we can to fight these injustices, these monstrosities.
I've been proud to stand by your side in this fight and I will always be.
I'm concerned about your living situation. Please check your inbox dear Undergroundpanther.
"We have to save each other to save ourselves."
That's the simple truth of your brilliant rant.
AnotherMcIntosh
3. "What about the weak makes the strong hate them?" It might be catching.
treestar
4. Fear of it in themselves
They fear they could succumb to weakness.
undergroundpanther Response to treestar
6. They are weak already
they cannot love. They will not share,refuse to face what they are, they are petrified of differences,petrified of another's freedom to say no,they won't understand, don't want to care,so they do thier best to make us, like them . But they can't no matter how much they hurt us.
GoCubsGo Response to undergroundpanther
15. Exactly right.
They aren't "stronger". They are a bunch of scared, ignorant cowards who fear everything and everyone that doesn't fit in their narrow, little worlds. What they are really doing is bullying people.
LiberalEsto Response to undergroundpanther
9. Fear, definitely
Some, not all but some, of these people are scared shitless deep inside. They hate this part of themselves, so they abuse the hell out of those who overtly show fear.
Sometimes I wonder if I could have escaped some of the childhood bullying by learning to act tough and appearing willing to fight back. Unfortunately I was raised by European immigrants who taught me to fear and respect teachers and other authority figures, and to be meek, passive and obedient. I was taught to never argue or fight back. In other words, I received the perfect training to be a bullying victim.
Undergroundpanther, I think there are a lot of people on DU who not only don't hate you, but actually like you.
99Forever (5,375 posts)
5. It really does baffle the mind to try and comprehend what drives the heartless bastards.
And you are absolutely correct that the world does not have to be like this, but sadly as long as we nothing but bullies on one side of the aisle, and spineless surrender monkeys on the other, the kind of REAL CHANGE, not campaign LIES, will not happen.
undergroundpanther Response to 99Forever
7. It's pointless to try to comprehend it
People have been trying to since ancient times.Maybe you should listen to the monsters themselves and what they say to explain themselves. Not after they are caught,but before..Like,because I can,I feel like it,or "you" made me do so and so,usually aimed at a person they've victimized in private. Could it be these empty hearted emotionally dead monsters in human suits do such evil becauuse they're bored and can get away with it?
You are seeing a sociopath from your own perspective. Too many people do that,and it helps the abuse continue.
Maybe WHY is the wrong question. Maybe the question we should be asking is Why do WE let this happen? Why do WE tolerate the intolerable behavior of some people.What good is it doing to help the world tolerating all this abuse by some people?
99Forever Response to undergroundpanther
8. I guess I am seeing sociopaths from my own perspective because it's the only one I have. I'm not sure where you got that I think it should be tolerated, when in fact, quite the opposite is true.
undergroundpanther Response to 99Forever
12. No I don't think you tolerate abuse.
Yes our own perspective is what we have most the time,but we need to learn to step outside our own perspective sometimes.
How I do it is by imagining what if I were..__________ It is an excercise in knowing the 'other'. it cultivates awareness.But you have to be totally honest.
What if there were no limits on what I could do,If I wanted to do it I could. But avoiding all the people who might say I can't do____ becomes a game of how can I get away with___... ever notice how bullies build gangs around themselves by manipulating emotionally passive people? Soon others who share that sociopath way of thinking will join in the game all will build a posse it will become a huge game, with___ as victims. All that matters in that mindset is "winning" and building a posse to protect you from losses and those people that say you can't do____.
That's all social interaction can be to a person with dead emotions. A hallmark of sociopaths is emotional shallowness or deadness.
99Forever Response to undergroundpanther
16. I think we are in agreement.
Perhaps I'm not expressing myself as well as I should.
zeemike
10. As you probably know, I agree with you.
But the simple answer is that if they have someone to look down on it makes them feel higher...They themselves are insecure.
gtar100
11. Love and justice are real. And those who hate that which is inherently good are living in denial at their own peril. Because I desire justice and feel it tear at the very fabric of my being when I see someone being violated and abused, I know that it is elemental to this universe. I didn't create this longing for justice and by your words and others who have inspired me I know it exists independent of me. Even if its fruition were to take the lifetime of several universes, it still seems reckless and foolish to willingly cause others suffering and pain for the sake of personal pleasure and gain. True justice demands complete restitution.
Iliyah
13. Greed
"Is the desire for material wealth or gain, ignoring the realm of the spiritual. . ."
Gluttony "Is an inordinate desire to consume more than that which one requires"
People who crave power over others are afraid of losing statute, and their material things.
You are far from being alone in your reality. I believe the so called powerful loses sight of civil and compassionate reality.
DirkGently
14. Fear. And ignorance.
Those are inherent human flaws that we are supposed to fight to overcome with our minds and hearts. Some people see pushing down as a way to raise themselves up.
This post stopped me dead in my tracks. You've hit all the nails I hope people come here to hammer on, beautifully.
Spirochete
17. They aren't truly strong
they just happen to be in a position of advantage that allows them to kick those around who are not. Someone strong wouldn't feel the need to do that. They're just mean.
daleanime
18. Because doing so gives them some little justification in their cold hearts and that little bit is all they need. Its a sad and scarily place to be, yet so many people live there.
siligut
19. Did you grow up in a religious family?
What you posted is complex, but like you, I believe there is hope.
leftyohiolib
20. they play strong cause they are weak and scared. beating up on those they can makes them feel like they can still control somethings
undergroundpanther (11,601 posts)
What about the weak makes the strong hate them?
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Being poor isn't always the poor person's fault.I'm poor
I stopped reading here because the last two words, in her case, is false. When compared to people in the third-world countries that the DUmmies claim to love the UGP is rich. When her/his/its wealth and material items are compared to the actual work that she/he/it did to get them, she/he/it is filthy rich.
...You have this idea that your some kind of cat trapped in a human form and that it's OK?...
If all Heaven opened before her she would curse It for a thief because It would deny her her demons.
Where else is she to go?
undergroundpanther (11,601 posts)
What about the weak makes the strong hate them?
Lessee, the ugly psychotic waste of skin (and a lot of it) was mistreated by the school system, the social workers, the psycho social workers, and she lives in Baltimore....
ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS.
Solution to UGP's housing dilemma after September......buy a BUICK.
I guess I am a bad person, because I frankly don't give a flying shit UGP. So there.
I'm a medic.
You're an invalid.
I'm a firefighter.
You're constantly in therapy.
I worked 20 hour days to keep my fellow soldier's paid.
You cry because the school didn't send you to South America to live in tree tops as a vegetarian cat.
I've broken more bones than you've broken sweats.
I can't run 2-miles without shattering my knees but I do it every other day so I can continue to be a soldier as long as physically possible.
You won't get off the couch.
I can breed 'em and feed 'em.
You?
I'll fight.
You'll die...probably by your own hand.
I want what I've worked for.
You want what I've worked for.
Yes. Yes, I hate you. I despise you. I hold you in perpetual scorn.
You don't know the first ****ing thing about love except how to manipulate and exploit it.
Has UGP ever done anything for or by itself? I can't think of a single thing.
What would it take to make UGP happy?What I don't get is how it cries poor but then has a totally elective/cosmetic surgery that costs thousands that Medicaid does not cover.
I've been reading screed after pathetic screed from UGP for 10 years. I've never seen the thing happy.
UGP thinks it's a male cat trapped in a female human body. The thing has had body-destroying surgery.
It has never worked for anything in it's life. UGP has never, ever learned the satisfaction that comes from starting something, working really hard, making mistakes, starting over, and then completing it.
Has UGP ever done anything for or by itself? I can't think of a single thing.
1) mooch off other people, and then 2) whine that it's not enough.
(http://www.prolifeamerica.com/4D-Ultrasound-pictures/images/photo2.jpg)
Yeah, UGP, what about the weak makes the left hate them so?
In 4th. grade I wanted to be a veterinarian, study the lives of south american cats, living in the treetops.
UGPee's not happy unless it's not happy, and spreading its' unhappiness to otherwise happy people.Reminds me of a quick time cadence from my youth...
If all Heaven opened before her she would curse It for a thief because It would deny her her demons.
Where else is she to go?
One wonders how much effort it's siblings will put into securing it a place to live after they evict it. Unfortunately it probably won't have much chance to post from a shopping cart.
I think it'd be good for her to end up in one of those buildings with small rooms and soft walls, and a straitjacket a permanent part of her daily-and-nightly attire.
I can't see anything else that'd work.
They can't be locked up like that nowadays unless they are very dangerous or they have great insurance. I'm afraid it's the shopping cart for the UGP.
Well, since the subway cat wishes she'd never been born, wishes she'd die, maybe she'll be run over by a big semi-truck rolling down the highway, mistaking her for something that fell off a garbage truck.
<<<a nice guy, but there are times.....
One wonders how much effort it's siblings will put into securing it a place to live after they evict it. Unfortunately it probably won't have much chance to post from a shopping cart.
What would it take to make UGP happy?
I've been reading screed after pathetic screed from UGP for 10 years. I've never seen the thing happy.
UGP thinks it's a male cat trapped in a female human body. The thing has had body-destroying surgery.
It has never worked for anything in it's life. UGP has never, ever learned the satisfaction that comes from starting something, working really hard, making mistakes, starting over, and then completing it.
Has UGP ever done anything for or by itself? I can't think of a single thing.
It might, just might, be the best thing to happen to the kitty there Bad Dog. Not getting her daily ration of kitty food might cause her/him/it to get off her/him/it's fat ass and actually get a job. I'm sure some circus somewhere would hire her.
I'm just wondering though... what are the siblings like? Are they normal? If they are, the kitty might be looking at some hard times. I'm guessing she will end up walking the streets, pushing a buggy, meowing to itself.
Anyone catch what it was actually diagnosed with? Just going by her postings she seems schizophrenic to me.
I cannot be certain but I think that was the worlds longest suicide note.
Reminds me of a joke I heard a long time ago:
Statistics have shown that 1 out of every 4 people are freaks.
So, pick out 3 of your friends. If they're OK, IT'S YOU!
A LOT of DUmmies fall into that category. They're just too damn stupid to realize it.
I think the APA term for UGP's condition is "A Shit-Ton of Crazy."
wonder why I am the object of right-wing scorn,hate and smear.I can hardly function.Depression draws my days away,dissociation has made much unbearable.My life is not happy or anything.I had dreams but it seems I never had enough money to live them,so I have given up on dreams.:mental:
Makes you wonder who or what started this whole carnival of insanity in the first place. If it's not on her then when the time comes that person should pay for making someone so miserable but we all know it all rest with her .
I think the APA term for UGP's condition is "A Shit-Ton of Crazy."Put me off pineapple juice for life. :rotf:
Put me off pineapple juice for life. :rotf: