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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on June 21, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
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Where did he think he was, anyway?
politicaljunkie41910 (397 posts)
I'm not particularly a fan of Paula Deen, but I think this is all much ado about nothing.
I read the deposition transcripts and I think that Paula Deen's actions are typical of people her age who were born in the south. I don't know whether she is a racist and nothing I've read tells me that she is. And this is coming from someone is who black and grew up in south central Los Angeles. I'm shocked that Wendy Williams (of How you doin fame) would weigh in on the matter, as if she has never used the "N" word. I know that blacks think that it's okay for them to use the word, but all hell breaks loose if someone else says it. I don't know whether Paula Deen and/or her brother are racists; or whether her brother is guilty of sexual harassment of the former employee who filed the claim. I just know that I've read everything I've seen in print related to the 'story' and I didn't see any there, there. Yes, she talked about a southern style plantation wedding with black waiters. How nestalgic? It reminds her of a different era in time. Yes she talked about using the "N" word, but I'm not surprised by that. I'd have been more surprised if she said she had never used it. And the fact that she couldn't remember the context in which she used it doesn't surprise me. I'm sure in that era is was a normal part of speech for people in the society she grew up in. I'm sure she was a product of her environment.
Many people cling to an era that has gone by and ain't coming back. I don't think that it necessarily means that she longs for the days when when people were in bondage; but perhaps just a different time. I look back on my childhood and reminance, and we were so poor, we couldn't pay attention (as we used to say). Still, those are some of my happiest memories. Not because we were poor but because of the good memories I have of the people I was with and the things that we did. Which just goes to show that those were simple times with simple pleasures. We have more "things" now, and those "things" don't necessarily ensure happiness.
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Star Member msanthrope (16,963 posts)
4. When you create a racist and sexual hostile work environment, you should
pay for it. No employee is obligated to put up with a racist boss, and no employee should have to put up with a boss who thinks that it's appropriate to view pornography in front of them.
treestar (41,641 posts)
90. Could be, cause I have a hard time giving up "black"
which shows what era I came from.
We're not supposed to say "black" now? What is the proper nomenclature? My black co-workers must be seething with hatred for me, because every time a description of race is necessary in my work, I refer to blacks as, well, black.
cali (81,409 posts)
10. I've read it too. it's clearly racist.
HiPointDem (18,256 posts)
13. she was 20 in 1967, height of civil rights movement. she spent all her adulthood post-jim crow.
Here's a newsflash: The "civil rights movement" didn't change the South overnight. Nor, apparently, did it change the North. Some of the most virulently racist speech I ever encountered was from my Northeastern shipmates in the late '70s when I was in the Navy. We from the South had pretty much adjusted already since we were acutely aware of the social ramifications. Plus most of us were taught good manners.
Ohio Joe (12,201 posts)
18. ummmm... When you use racist words and tell racist jokes...
You are a racist.
Umm...well, that covers pretty much all of DU. Remember Justice Thomas being referred to as "Slappy"?
Generic Brad (7,398 posts)
83. I agree with you 100%, Cali
I refuse to associate with anyone who uses language like that. And I am completely unforgiving to those who attempt to justify it. This whole Paula Deen situation is very personal to me. I have had relatives say racially inflammatory things about my wife and daughter to me in private and I permanently hold a grudge and refuse to associate with them until they apologize for their behavior which I estimate will be never. Tigers do not change their stripes and racists never apologize.
I understand if someone used language like that in the 60's before awareness was raised; but this has been clearly unacceptable socially for more than 30 years now. If she said those things within the past decade, she deserves every ounce of backlash that comes her way.
Star Member geek tragedy (27,001 posts)
23. How to spot a closet racist in one easy step: they whine about not being allowed to use the n-word:
"I'm shocked that Wendy Williams (of How you doin fame) would weigh in on the matter, as if she has never used the "N" word. I know that blacks think that it's okay for them to use the word, but all hell breaks loose if someone else says it."
Go sit next to Paula Deen.
I wonder just how squeaky clean the pearl-clutching Ms. Williams' past is? I'd be willing to bet there's an epithet or two in her closet, despite the faux outrage she's expressed over this non-event.
Star Member Jeff In Milwaukee (12,595 posts)
25. Tens of millions of people in this country...
have thought and said worse things than Paula Deen has, and some of them are members of Congress or in state legislatures and are really in a position to hurt people.
Paula Deen is a friggin' celebrity chef, and suddenly I'm supposed to start giving two shits about what she thinks?
I'll pass, thanks.
And of course Jeff is ignored.
Star Member tarheelsunc (1,293 posts)
31. Who cares where/when she grew up?
Wrong is wrong and all this "well it's typical" talk is just excuse making.
Star Member tularetom (17,500 posts)
42. Racist or not, she's a repulsive human being
And I must confess to a case of terminal schadenfreude reading about her current woes.
HockeyMom (10,826 posts)
43. Northerner her age
She was attacked once? I had 3 instances: robbed by black male, almost sexually assaulted by white males, attempted home break in by Hispanic male. Ok, none were Asians or Natives. However, what do you see in common? Paula, girl, think about this one. They were all MALE. Females are low on the list of violent crime. If she wants to direct her anger at someone, maybe it shouldn't be racial/ethnic but more on GENDER?
Nothing like hijacking the thread to make it anti-male.
The Link (433 posts)
50. Wow. Sorry, but Deen is a racist.
There is no justification for this.
Quantess (24,237 posts)
57. Paula Deen's words and actions were very racist and very disrespectful.
I'm not seeing any gray area or nuance in this particular case, and I'm shocked to see people saying she wasn't all that racist.
Go ahead and say nice things about Paula Deen's other qualities if you want to, but, there is simply no getting around her stunningly racist comments that she admitted to saying, and the allegations of harrassment. That's just inexcusable.
This site is supposed to be for liberals and progressives.
Star Member madrchsod (55,910 posts)
63. she`s a repulsive human being
her southern charm can't disguise her repulsive attitude towards those she thinks are not worthy to be in the front room other than to serve her.
Star Member Marrah_G (22,731 posts)
65. Wow....
Your defense of racist behavior is duly noted.
Bottom line is this - there's a contingent at DU which despises with a passion any and all things Southern. Coupled with their natural disdain for successful, wealthy people and you have a perfect storm of hate-filled schadenfreude in their view of Paula Deen.
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Of course Paula Deen is a racist. Paula Deen is a hardcore lifelong democrat. That makes her a lot of other nasty things too.
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Of course Paula Deen is a racist. Paula Deen is a hardcore lifelong democrat. That makes her a lot of other nasty things too.
That demonrat is in the process of being mugged. When she comes out of the other side of that spin cycle. There is better than a 1 to 1 chance she will see the world in a very different, more conservative light once she sees how quickly the lib/dem/socialist eat their young then throw them under the bus while the bus is colliding with a fiery band wagon.
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Funny how the dummies decry Paula Deen as a racist to be scorned and executed and yet hail Al Sharpton as a hero.....just a thought
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politicaljunkie41910 (397 posts)
I'm not particularly a fan of Paula Deen, but I think this is all much ado about nothing.
I read the deposition transcripts and I think that Paula Deen's actions are typical of people her age who were born in the south. I don't know whether she is a racist and nothing I've read tells me that she is. And this is coming from someone is who black and grew up in south central Los Angeles.
Star Member geek tragedy (27,001 posts)
23. How to spot a closet racist in one easy step: they whine about not being allowed to use the n-word:
"I'm shocked that Wendy Williams (of How you doin fame) would weigh in on the matter, as if she has never used the "N" word. I know that blacks think that it's okay for them to use the word, but all hell breaks loose if someone else says it."
Go sit next to Paula Deen.
I'd like to place a request for clarification.
On previous occasions the DUmmies have declared that blacks can NOT be racist. The politicaljunkie DUmmie claims to be black (see the underlined bolded), yet the DUmmie geek tragedy deems politicaljunkie to be racist.
Has the 'blacks can't be racist' meme been temporarily rescinded?
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politicaljunkie41910.....expressed my thoughts on the subject well.
For years I made the effort to take the "N" word out of my vocabulary but the actions of a few of the damn ""N" words" in the black community has forced the use of the ""N" word" back into my vocabulary......so call me racist, I don't care any more.
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Funny how the dummies decry Paula Deen as a racist to be scorned and executed and yet hail Al Sharpton as a hero.....just a thought
Or democrat Sen Robert Byrd...a Grand Kleagle of the Klu Klux Klan? Even the Congressional Black Caucus wrote excuses for him.
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Have any of them brought up that Paula Deen is a Democrat who supported Obama in 08?
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Paula Deen's political affiliation
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/celebrities-political-affiliations-20122210/25628
Paula Deen (Democrat)
The Food Network star campaigned for Obama back in 2008, and invited his wife Michelle to cook with her during an episode of Paula's Party. Later, she said she "just loved" being around the First Lady, and praised her platform: encouraging kids and young adults to eat healthy and get plenty of exercise.
Then the Obama's turned on Paula Deen after this :lmao:
Deen reportedly told a the Washington Examiner that Michelle packed away the food when the cameras stopped rolling, which left the White House incensed.
Deen even recently told the Washington Examiner, “[Michelle Obama] probably ate more than any other guest I ever had on the show! She kept eating even during commercials. Know what [the Obamas’] favorite foods are? Hot wings.â€
She paints a picture of Obama that’s a far cry from the first lady who was photographed holding a worm she pulled from a vegetable garden yesterday.
According to the Enquirer, Obama now regrets going on Deen’s show. “Michelle’s spitting mad,†a source told the paper. “She thinks Paula is trying to smear her and her family just as the 2012 presidential election race swings into gear.â€
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Paula Deen's political affiliation
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/celebrities-political-affiliations-20122210/25628
Then the Obama's turned on Paula Deen after this :lmao:
Right you are. Now its payback! Perfectly timed to gin up a good ol southern race controversy with the Blacks being upset about the gang of 8 and all.
Sad part is it will probably work.
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The DUmmies can try to whitewash over the virulent racist history of their democrat party by obsessively seizing on incidents like this, but we are not fooled.
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^I resonate your sentiments...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIHJ9RMAVGI[/youtube]
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Have any of them brought up that Paula Deen is a Democrat who supported Obama in 08?
I really like some of her recipes, but just like every other democrat she can go straight to hell.
Another stupid wallduded democrat. Love it.
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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Original post)Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:28 AM
B Calm (17,342 posts)
97. Paula fights her racism just like all of us
who was born in her era. I think she is being treated unfair!
Paula loves Jimmy Carter and I think she is a Georgia Democrat. .
All the DUmmies ignored B Calm's observation for some reason.
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/image_2415083_zps65078344.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/image_2415083_zps65078344.jpg.html)
Best dishes from my house to yours.
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HiPointDem (18,256 posts)
13. she was 20 in 1967, height of civil rights movement. she spent all her adulthood post-jim crow.
Here's a newsflash: The "civil rights movement" didn't change the South overnight. Nor, apparently, did it change the North. Some of the most virulently racist speech I ever encountered was from my Northeastern shipmates in the late '70s when I was in the Navy. We from the South had pretty much adjusted already since we were acutely aware of the social ramifications. Plus most of us were taught good manners.
That's exactly right. I have never heard as racist a rant as from NE and N Mid-West types.
And yes, most espoused deeply help liberal convictions.
And finally, who in the hell is Paula Deen?
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My conservative pool pick. Paula Deen.
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This whole "N-word" thing drives me nuts. What are we all, six years old? Do we not know what we are saying when we say "N-word"? It's absolutely ludicrous. The only thing that's more ludicrous is that for every time a white person uses that word a black person uses it a hundred times. Can you think of any other ethnic group where it is common for them to to refer to one another using a racial epithet for that group? The whole narrative surrounding that word and its use is just bizarre to me.
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This whole "N-word" thing drives me nuts. What are we all, six years old? Do we not know what we are saying when we say "N-word"? It's absolutely ludicrous. The only thing that's more ludicrous is that for every time a white person uses that word a black person uses it a hundred times. Can you think of any other ethnic group where it is common for them to to refer to one another using a racial epithet for that group? The whole narrative surrounding that word and its use is just bizarre to me.
That word is one of the strongest basis for my parody of libs with my list of banned words. Illustrate absurdity and hypocrisy with absurdity and hypocrisy.
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This whole "N-word" thing drives me nuts. What are we all, six years old? Do we not know what we are saying when we say "N-word"? It's absolutely ludicrous. The only thing that's more ludicrous is that for every time a white person uses that word a black person uses it a hundred times. Can you think of any other ethnic group where it is common for them to to refer to one another using a racial epithet for that group? The whole narrative surrounding that word and its use is just bizarre to me.
Did you ever see this?
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,86989.0.html
I hope to all getout that CNN axed the producer that allowed that to happen.
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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Original post)Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:28 AM
B Calm (17,342 posts)
97. Paula fights her racism just like all of us
who was born in her era. I think she is being treated unfair!
Paula loves Jimmy Carter and I think she is a Georgia Democrat. .
All the DUmmies ignored B Calm's observation for some reason.
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/image_2415083_zps65078344.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/image_2415083_zps65078344.jpg.html)
Best dishes from my house to yours.
Yes Georgia Democrats still support racism...
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/political-insider/2013/jun/21/your-daily-jolt-savannahs-defense-paula-deen/
On Thursday evening, about 6 p.m., Nikema Williams, acting chairman of the state Democratic party, sent out a formal notice declaring that members of the party’s state committee will convene on Aug. 17 to elect a new chairman.
Candidates to replace Mike Berlon, who resigned earlier this month under pressure, must declare themselves by July 17. But only white, male Democrats need apply, Williams explained:
“Although any Democrat may serve as State Chair, the Charter and By Laws contain two provisions that restrict who may run in this special election. First, the Charter provides that the Chair and the First Vice-Chair must be of opposite gender. (C.4.1.2). Since the State Committee elected a female First Vice-Chair at the last party general election, and that officer is still serving, the Charter requires that the Chair be male. Second, the Charter provides that where a racial group constitutes 20% or more of the registered voters in the state then at least one member of that group must be an officer as either Chair, First Vice-Chair, or additional Vice-Chairs. (C.4.1.3). The Party had been in compliance with this provision because the Chair was white. The resignation of that officer creates a non-compliance situation. The Charter, therefore, restricts candidates in this special election by race. Thus, any white male Democrat is eligible to run in this special election.â€
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Libs codify racism. They wouldn't recognize irony if irony was a steamroller that just flattened them.
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Of course Paula Deen is a racist. Paula Deen is a hardcore lifelong democrat. That makes her a lot of other nasty things too.
They are turning on her.
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What's really hiding behind the southern accent and pounds of butter:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb4vhJaX1hw[/youtube]