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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on June 19, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
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WillyT (46,355 posts)
:( :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 'Journalist Michael Hastings Dies In Car Crash' - RawStory (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023042993)
Journalist Michael Hastings dies in car crash
By Eric W. Dolan - RawStory
Tuesday, June 18, 2013 19:03 EDT
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The journalist and author Michael Hastings died at the age of 33 on Tuesday morning. According to his employer BuzzFeed, Hastings was killed in a car crash in Los Angeles..
“We are shocked and devastated by the news that Michael Hastings is gone,†Ben Smith, BuzzFeed Editor-in-Chief, said in a statement. “Michael was a great, fearless journalist with an incredible instinct for the story, and a gift for finding ways to make his readers care about anything he covered from wars to politicians. He wrote stories that would otherwise have gone unwritten, and without him there are great stories that will go untold. Michael was also a wonderful, generous colleague and a joy to work with. Our thoughts are with Elise and and the rest of his family and we are going to miss him.â€
Hastings gained national attention in 2010 after exposing inflammatory comments made by Gen. Stanley McChrystal about President Barack Obama and the civilian leadership of the military.
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Link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/18/journalist-michael-hastings-dies-in-car-crash/
Never heard of this guy, but RIP.
This thread & others immediately delve into conspiracies.
malaise (107,085 posts)
6. Are we sure it was an accident?
b.durruti (26 posts)
29. They murder with impunity. -nt-
siligut (11,506 posts)
85. My first thought is that it wasn't an accident
Early Tuesday morning, one 'witness', at least that is what the article indicates. Car suddenly jackknifed, hit a tree and burst into flames. Seriously, other than in movies and TV, I have never seen a vehicle burst into flames.
Cooley Hurd (21,007 posts)
20. I hope it's thoroughly investigated.
He's pissed off a lot of powerful people in the past.
Cross gently, Michael.
Divernan (9,877 posts)
65. Including whether his car was tampered with.
A biting comment from the Yahoo coverage: Weather in Los Angeles: Cloudy with a chance of Drones.
JI7 (40,475 posts)
19. i use to drive that way to work a few years ago , not an area i would drive very fast in
and at least the streets along melrose can be very close together. but i don't know how it would look at 4 am and if it was empty enough that one would drive much faster than usual.
i have to wonder if he was drinking.
HubertHeaver (1,049 posts)
40. or being followed..............
glinda (12,128 posts)
58. That was my thought. Run off the road.
cherokeeprogressive (15,320 posts)
28. Single vehicle crossed a median, impacted a tree, driver burned beyond recognition.
I'm not normally one to entertain conspiracy stuff... in fact I usually mock those who do, but this seems a little strange.
I'd like to know what his habits were. Did he normally drive down that street that early in the morning?
glinda (12,128 posts)
60. Slipped a drug at an interview?????
I would want to know where he was. Was he lured with a scoop?
NoMoreWarNow (971 posts)
51. yes, there is something very wrong here
KoKo (70,066 posts)
93. "...friends worried..he was agitated"..from KTLA Link from Greg Mitchell's Piece
Friends said that, because of the nature of Hastings’ work, he often led a very paranoid lifestyle.
“A lot of his friends were worried that he was in a very agitated state, yes. No question, people were concerned,†said Cenk Uygur, host of “The Young Turks.â€
“He was incredibly tense and very worried and was concerned that the government was looking in on his material,†he said.
“I don’t know what his state of mind was at 4:30 in the morning, but I do know what his state of mind was in general, and it was a nervous wreck.â€
In addition to his work for Rolling Stone and BuzzFeed, Hastings was also a contributor for GQ and Newsweek. He leaves behind a wife.
http://ktla.com/2013/06/19/driver-killed-in-fiery-car-crash-in-hollywood/#axzz2Wc62vgTS
SleeplessinSoCal (1,712 posts)
30. The photo is terribly disturbing.
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-hastings-dies-car-crash-20130618,0,7611310.story
I don't see how this can be taken as "Just an accident", considering all that is going on right now.
radiclib (1,458 posts)
31. This is absolutely hideous news
The world can hardly afford to lose the likes of Michael.
The circumstances of this so-called (sorry, but I gotta go there) "accident" had better be closely and openly scrutinized.
SleeplessinSoCal (1,712 posts)
34. I agree. I also feel that there are way too many enemies out there of real journalism.
And the timing is totally suspicious. Not saying it was the "government". But I think it could easily have been a hit job timed to coincide with NSA revelations by those who felt betrayed by his reporting.
colsohlibgal (1,002 posts)
70. This Does Seem Fishy, I Hope It Really Is Looked At
There is enough here so far to raise my suspicions, much like what happened to Paul Wellstone some years ago. Just a bit too convenient for some in power that he regularly exposed.
It's just so sad in any event, way too young to die.
YeahSureRight (129 posts)
79. How convenient a real journalist who is exposing the lies and making powerful
enemies ends up in a car accident.
Seems like his death is also sending a message to others to not expose the lies or you will end up dead.
We will never know the truth about what happened.
OKNancy (30,204 posts)
80. And the conspiracy theories start....
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but I saw the video. A witness said he was going really fast. He said it in broken English but he said.. maybe 100.
A print article says: A witness described the accident to KTLA News: “I was just coming northbound on Highland and I seen a car, like, going really fast and all of a sudden I seen it jackknife,†Luis Cortez said. “I just seen parts fly everywhere, and I slammed on my brakes and stopped and tried to call 911."
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-michael-hastings-dies-car-crash-20130618,0,7611310.story
So, wouldn't the most likely thing be that he was going too fast and lost control?
ETA: no witness said anything about another car. A single car going way too fast
reformist2 (4,435 posts)
84. Maybe his wife can explain why he was out and about at 4 am on a Tuesday?
WilliamPitt (54,580 posts)
91. A reporter out late?
*gasp*
We're not talking about you and one of your drinking binges, Wee Willie.
More lunacy at the link.
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Paranoid much?
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Who exactly are they accusing of bumping this guy off? Obama? Murder isn't necessary any more. This regime has discovered that you can just call someone a conservative and ignore them. Look at Sharyl Attkisson. She's been digging into several of the scandals, and suddenly people crawl out of the woodwork and insinuate she's got conservative leanings in order to marginalize her. If that doesn't work, sic the IRS on your enemies and have their phone and computers hacked. Unless, of course, they think Bush did it.
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Anybody notice that William Whoreson is not worth Wellstoning?
glinda (12,128 posts)
60. Slipped a drug at an interview?????
Why would you have to slip drugs to a liberal when you can just openly offer?
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siligut
Seriously, other than in movies and TV, I have never seen a vehicle burst into flames.
Ford Pinto, anyone?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcNeorjXMrE[/youtube]
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Ford Pinto, anyone?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcNeorjXMrE[/youtube]
Funny thing about the Pinto. It was originally designed to have a rubber bladder in the fuel tank to prevent fuel leaks in a collision. It was removed due to the cost.
On a lighter note, the East Germans had the same problems with their version of the Pinto....
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT0J0rcJTLo[/youtube]
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I'll bet he had the Kenyan birth certificate.
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siligut
Seriously, other than in movies and TV, I have never seen a vehicle burst into flames.
Chevy Volts seem to have that problem.
Talk about wrong place, wrong time: three weeks after being crash-tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, a Chevrolet Volt caught fire in an agency parking lot. Bloomberg reports that the fire has prompted a NHTSA investigation into the safety of electric cars.
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/chevrolet-volt-catches-fire-at-nhtsa-facility-sparks-investigation-of-battery-packs-135313.html#ixzz2Wgibwe7q
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Funny thing about the Pinto. It was originally designed to have a rubber bladder in the fuel tank to prevent fuel leaks in a collision. It was removed due to the cost.
The Crown Vic/Town Car had the same problem, and they were still making them up to 2011.
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The DUmp was quick to dance and piss on the grave of Andrew Breitbart when he died suddenly, but not mention of him being "wellstoned".
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Hastings gained national attention in 2010 after exposing inflammatory comments made by Gen. Stanley McChrystal about President Barack Obama
Good riddance.
Another successful wellstoning.
I hope coach's fat bald cousin takes note.
Her explosive expose of how the government watches us through little cameras embedded in our TVs puts her at risk.
Combine that with her reporting on deadly windmill blades being hurled over a mile, and you have a prime candidate for a wellstoning.
She's just lucky that up to now the NSA has overlooked crazy Miriam's San Diego pennysaver.
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Karma's a bitch.
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Who exactly are they accusing of bumping this guy off?
It was the B-F-double-E :tinfoil2:
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How does a car "jackknife"?
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How does a car "jackknife"?
Was wondering the same thing.
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I expect a blood test would explain it all.
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Anybody notice that William Whoreson is not worth Wellstoning?
Yeah.
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I don’t know what his state of mind was at 4:30 in the morning
Inebriated, (D)Ummy. Care to wager?
I expect a blood test would explain it all.
Yup. /gNads
eformist2 (4,435 posts)
84. Maybe his wife can explain why he was out and about at 4 am on a Tuesday?
(http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4986526772495370&pid=1.7)
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Wellstone was an accident blamed on President Bush by liberal conspiracy nuts.
This guy is a liberal, who criticized a liberal president, and then dies hours later. If the DUmmy formula is applied, Obama is responsible for killing this reporter. They nearly say as much in the thread, but can't bring themselves to speak it out loud.
I wonder if the consequences of their votes is beginning to dawn on the Primitives.
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I wonder if the consequences of their votes is beginning to dawn on the Primitives.
Yeah, right.
As soon as their pharmaceutical supplies start running out and become harder and harder to get because of free medical care for all, it won't dawn on the primitives. They'll blame George Bush or Calvin Coolidge or someone else instead.
As soon as the primitives are being dragged in front of death panels, it won't dawn on them. They'll blame Ronald Reagan or Rutherford B. Hayes or someone else instead.
It'll never dawn on the primitives. A rock can't change its mind.
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It'll never dawn on the primitives. A rock can't change its mind.
:rotf: :hi5:
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Michael Hastings was not murdered. Nor was his death an accident.
He died at 33 on the 33rd (more or less) parallel
His first name refers to the Archangel Michael who is sort of an avenging angel and his last name, Hastings, means "son of the austere (or stern or disciplined) man"
Therefore his death was some sort of ritual sacrifice. Probably the Masons but maybe some other group that uses Masonic symbolism. And he probably, in some way, volunteered for it.
There you go DUmmies, I've ratified your madness, I think you can take it from here. Nadin, get on this. Follow the trends across the Rubicon and you may just discover Oz.
You're welcome!
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I expect a blood test would explain it all.
A fraudulent toxicology report to discredit the victim, no doubt.
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A fraudulent toxicology report to discredit the victim, no doubt.
Perhaps they could do something with cinderblocks and a rabbit cage to explain how that works...
:popcorn:
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Perhaps they could do something with cinderblocks and a rabbit cage to explain how that works...
:popcorn:
:lmao:
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Good riddance.
Another successful wellstoning.
I hope coach's fat bald cousin takes note.
Her explosive expose of how the government watches us through little cameras embedded in our TVs puts her at risk.
Combine that with her reporting on deadly windmill blades being hurled over a mile, and you have a prime candidate for a wellstoning.
She's just lucky that up to now the NSA has overlooked crazy Miriam's San Diego pennysaver.
All you would need is your own fleet of drones and some AGM-119 Hellfires
(http://dronewarsuk.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/predator-firing-missile4.jpg)
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New thread on the same subject with a sort of "Nadinism".
LINK (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023061206#post24)
reformist2 (4,456 posts)
Most people with common sense are deeply suspicious of Michael Hastings' death.
Not only do I believe this to be true, I suspect most of you are in this boat as well.
May as well say so, and have discussion thread titles that reflect this, instead of letting others frame the debate.
nadinbrzezinski (121,829 posts)
24. I will put it to you this way
being suspicious is important in this case... that said, it could have been an accident.
I will add this though, if it was not... I doubt we will know.
Certain things that raise my hackles.
Where the trannie was found, how far the engine flew (granted two of the suports were sheared in the crash at least), and how fiery this was.
If this was purely mechanical failure we need to know as well, new vehicle... failures do happen... and a recall might be in order.
So there are many reasons to WANT a real investigation... but if this was who he feared... you will never hear about it. And yes, shit like this happens in other places around the world. Some of the tactcis we taught them.
Suffice it to say, he did write that he had been warned in the past... so there is that.
As to most people... in reality most people know about the NBA games, and the latest on the tv, and sports. Most people have a hard time with actual news. The comentary from Jon Oliver yesterday with the Paula Dean \ Treasury bit was just damn on point, and true.
Most people will know of the flap with Paula Dean... this... who is Hastings will be the first question.
Hmmm...hackles? :???:
raise (somebody's) hackles also make (somebody's) hackles rise (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/raise+hackles)
to annoy someone
Usage notes: Hackles are the hairs on the back of a dog's neck which stand up when it is angry.
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Did Ben Franklin have hackles?
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hastings blew thru a red light shortly before his accident at a high rate of speed
[youtube=425,350]http://youtu.be/gNhqKRugk8Q[/youtube]
The car burned like a son of a bitch, probally because the gas tank ruptured and sprayed gas when it hit the center medium at that high speed
[youtube=425,350]http://youtu.be/3LSY3wVuASg[/youtube]
wellstoned? nah
bad driving by hastings? yep
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Has anyone quantum tested the accident vehicle ? What ever happened to Vince Foster ?
edit case
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Has anyone quantum tested the accident vehicle ? What ever happened to vince Foster ?
I only have one hackle but, I assure you it is fully erect.
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Hum, maybe he was trying to do this and failed?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epqSuvrBWQs[/youtube]
Mercedes (what I thought I heard he was driving) usually come in fast, wicked fast, and PYP fast versions. I had an older six cylinder roadster who's acceleration was nothing short of amazing to say nothing of its top end. If it was a newer model he was driving it was probably a 'fly by wire' car for both steering and throttle. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Hum, maybe he was trying to do this and failed?
Mercedes (what I thought I heard he was driving) usually come in fast, wicked fast, and PYP fast versions. I had an older six cylinder roadster who's acceleration was nothing short of amazing to say nothing of its top end. If it was a newer model he was driving it was probably a 'fly by wire' car for both steering and throttle. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
He was driving a C250 turbo coupe (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/famed-non-automotive-journalist-michael-hastings-turns-a-c250-into-a-bomb/) (the four-cylinder model).
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Certain things that raise my hackles.
Where the trannie was found
Here comes nutcase nadin with another big scoop!
No one else has reported a queer being in the car with him!
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Certain things that raise my hackles.
Where the trannie was found
Didn't the DUmp get into an argument about this word?
You gotta laugh.
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He was driving a C250 turbo coupe (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/06/famed-non-automotive-journalist-michael-hastings-turns-a-c250-into-a-bomb/) (the four-cylinder model).
Pumping 201hp at 5000 rpm with a 0-60 of 7.1 seconds according to MB ( http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-C/model-C250C#specifications ). Not exactly a slouch off the line. [NHRA sanctioned drags this weekend up here at the New England Speedway BTW] :yahoo:
Lets say a drunk has a leg spasm mashes the pedal and jerks the wheel. Ka boom rapid acceleration followed by char broiled driver.
Or as DUmmies suspect, Agent Mike followed the driver from the bar after putting a bit of Rohypnol or such in his cocktail then manipulated the 'fly by wire' vehicle with a RC joystick from his chase vehicle when he started to nod. :whistling:
And about that trannie
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Tranny_brides_%28175131953%29.jpg)
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Transmission ? Transaxle ? Transfer Case ? Transmitter ? Transom ?
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Transmission ? Transaxle ? Transfer Case ? Transmitter ? Transom ?
Naaah . . .
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwUjJXxoGy4[/youtube]
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Never seen that movie.
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One thing is certain.
Any time DUmp democrats claim someone was "wellstoned", you can be sure it was a death that made the world a better place.
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One thing is certain.
Any time DUmp democrats claim someone was "wellstoned", you can be sure it was a death that made the world a better place.
without a doubt.
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Bennyboy (9,445 posts)
Exclusive: Who Killed Michael Hastings? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023913392)
Exclusive: Who Killed Michael Hastings?
Thu, 10/24/2013 - by Carl Gibson
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Early in the morning on June 18, a brand new Mercedes C250 coupe was driving through the Melrose intersection on Highland Avenue in Hollywood when suddenly, out of nowhere, it sped up. According to an eye-witness, the car accelerated rapidly, bounced several times then fishtailed out of control before it slammed into a palm tree and burst into flames, ejecting its engine some 200 feet away.
A witness, Jose Rubalcalva, whose house stood adjacent to the crash, told Ana Kasparian of the The Young Turks news network that no one could approach the burning car because it kept exploding. In a simulated full-frontal crash of a 2013 C250 coupe, the car doesn’t explode on impact nor does it launch its engine 200 feet.
In fact, said Nael Issa, a Mercedes Benz dealer in Long Beach, “The car has a crumble zone, so when it crashes it goes in like an accordion. And in some cases the engine drops down, so it doesn’t go into you.â€
The driver in the fatal crash was Michael Hastings, a 33-year-old crack investigative reporter for Rolling Stone magazine, whose June 2010 article, “The Runaway General,†exposed the behind-the-scenes failure of top U.S. General Stanley McChrystal’s counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan—and, even more damagingly, revealed McChrystal's mocking attitude toward the Obama administration, which ultimately led to the general’s resignation.
- See more at: http://www.occupy.com/article/exclusive-who-killed-michael-hastings#sthash.GwoP46Ha.dpuf
Who wrote this, Nadin? :lmao:
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The driver in the fatal crash was Michael Hastings, a 33-year-old crack investigative reporter for Rolling Stone magazine
Clearly, this wellstoning was meant as a warning to a certain award-wining journo to stop investigating the dangers of windmills.
No one survives running afoul of Big Wind.
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Clearly, this wellstoning was meant as a warning to a certain award-wining journo to stop investigating the dangers of windmills.
No one survives running afoul of Big Wind.
:lmao:
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The driver in the fatal crash was Michael Hastings, a 33-year-old crack investigative reporter for Rolling Stone magazine
Clearly, this wellstoning was meant as a warning to a certain award-wining journo to stop investigating the dangers of windmills.
No one survives running afoul of Big Wind.
And for a crack investigator it may indeed be an ill wind which blows foul! :o
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Michael Hastings was not murdered. Nor was his death an accident.
He died at 33 on the 33rd (more or less) parallel
His first name refers to the Archangel Michael who is sort of an avenging angel and his last name, Hastings, means "son of the austere (or stern or disciplined) man"
Therefore his death was some sort of ritual sacrifice. Probably the Masons but maybe some other group that uses Masonic symbolism. And he probably, in some way, volunteered for it.
There you go DUmmies, I've ratified your madness, I think you can take it from here. Nadin, get on this. Follow the trends across the Rubicon and you may just discover Oz.
You're welcome!
:rofl: :rofl:
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Clearly, this wellstoning was meant as a warning to a certain award-wining journo to stop investigating the dangers of windmills.
No one survives running afoul of Big Wind.
And for a crack investigator it may indeed be an ill wind which blows foul! :o
Well played!
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franksolich - the head of the VRWC's 'cleanup crew' - might know a few things about that fateful day.. :popcorn:
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Next week DUmmies will gather in Washington to BREAK WIND.
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UPDATE!!!
pnwmom (48,203 posts)
Michael Hastings's brother rules out foul play in death; says media sensationalized (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023983924)
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his brother's death; and says he saw him the day before and he was in the midst of a manic episode.
This should put the rumors to an end, but of course it won't.
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/05/michael_hastings_life_and_death_a_brothers_reflections/
As I told the police out in L.A., a few days before he died, Mike called me and I got the impression that he was having a manic episode, similar to one he had had 15 years ago, which he had referred to in his writing. At that time, drugs had been involved, and I suspected that might be the case again. I immediately booked a flight to L.A. for the next day, with the thought that maybe I could convince him to come back to Vermont to dry out or (less likely) get him to go to detox/rehab there in L.A. When I got to L.A. and saw him, I immediately realized that he was not going to go willingly. I started to make arrangements with our other brother to fly out and help me possibly force Mike into checking himself into a hospital or detox center. I’d thought that I had at least convinced Mike to just stay in his apartment and chill out for the next few days, but he snuck out on me when I was sleeping. He crashed his car before anyone could do anything to help him … I ended up telling this all to the police on Tuesday morning, as I was one of the last people to see him alive and I was one of the few people who could really put his behavior on that day in context.
How good a job do you feel the cops have done looking into the crash?
I feel that the investigation was pretty thorough. The LAPD was very easy to work with, and I think they did a good job. I certainly have no real complaints about them or the coroner’s office, and I think everyone in my family is satisfied with the report. For the most part, it didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know or strongly suspect.
SNIP
How have you reacted to the way the press has covered the report?
If I have any problems, it’s with how the report was written about in the press. There were a lot of journalists-in-quotes who didn’t seem to have read it very carefully or were, irresponsibly I think, taking things out of context. I guess that’s understandable — I mean, of course the press is going to sensationalize things and play up the juicy stuff. But just because it was understandable didn’t mean I liked it.
SNIP
What are your own thoughts about the cause of death? Do you have any feelings at all that foul play might have been involved?
I really rule out foul play entirely.
SNIP
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Yeah, right.
As soon as their pharmaceutical supplies start running out and become harder and harder to get because of free medical care for all, it won't dawn on the primitives. They'll blame George Bush or Calvin Coolidge or someone else instead.
As soon as the primitives are being dragged in front of death panels, it won't dawn on them. They'll blame Ronald Reagan or Rutherford B. Hayes or someone else instead.
It'll never dawn on the primitives. A rock can't change its mind.
I think "A turd can't change it's scent" would fit the primitives better, but to each their own. Not into conspiracies, but it's fun to watch the DUmbasses squirm.
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UPDATE!!!
My god they got to his brother too. Damn big wind to hell!!!
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I think "A turd can't change it's scent" would fit the primitives better, but to each their own. Not into conspiracies, but it's fun to watch the DUmbasses squirm.
H5. I like that one. I'll start using it.