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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on June 16, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023024731
Oh my.
Taverner (53,520 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:48 PM
What will break the surveillance state?
Enough trying to get DC to try and be nice and play Constitutional
How do we destroy it?
How do we put ourselves in the cogs and wheels and get it to grind to a halt?
cantbeserious (2,145 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:50 PM
1. Only One Way - Massive Civil Disobedience
Taverner (53,520 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:50 PM
2. General Strike
Shut EVERYTHING down
^^^going on strike's not an option for the Taverner primitive, for obvious reasons.
burnodo (449 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:51 PM
3. an EMP
no technology, no technological snooping
^^^not sue what an "EMP" is.
NaturalCommunist (15 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:11 PM
4. Why shut it down
Most have no problem with what's going on. This has been going on since 2001, why be upset now?
Taverner (53,520 posts) Sun Jun 16, 2013, 04:00 PM
13. I've been upset since 2001
And I am still upset
Now that there's a little more momentum, perhaps we can kill it
Cleita (64,649 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:16 PM
5. Stop using technology?
I don't think it will make a difference. Back in the days of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, government encouraged neighbors to spy on each other and children to spy on their parents. That's how Ann Frank and her family got ratted out. There was no technology back then like we know it today but any rogue government will find a way. The problem is getting people to admit that this is no better than what the Soviets and Nazis did back then or more recently what happened to the disappeared in Chile and Argentina. We need to prosecute them for this, to make them understand that this is not how a free and democratic government operates.
AnotherMcIntosh (8,024 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:43 PM
6. The only way is to get judges, CEOs, and people w real power to get paranoid re the spying on them.
reformist2 (4,349 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:44 PM
7. Overload the database with cat videos?
marions ghost (14,433 posts) Sun Jun 16, 2013, 03:54 PM
12. Everyone opposed stand up.
That is a LOT of people. Here and around the world.
I have hope for the first time that maybe we can shine a light on this profound betrayal of public trust.
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EMP: Electro Magnetic Pulse. Generally thought to be produced by a high altitude nuclear explosion. Acts like a super solar flare frying electronic devices. Unfortunately most government equipment is protected and I suspect no DUmmies would have access to a nuclear device.
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So now the DUmmies find the constitution to be a legitimate piece of paper?
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Unfortunately most government equipment is protected and I suspect no DUmmies would have access to a nuclear device.
Don't be so sure of that.
Remember, DUmmy TomInTib guarded nukes in his spare time during his days as a Seal Green Beret.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if he managed to sneak one into his sea bag.
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General strike--that seems to be a popular theme among the DUmmies.
But a question for you lurking 'tards--if ya'll went on strike, who'd notice?
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I'd support the DUmp in a general hunger strike, if they ever decided to do one.
I'd send them 'healing white light.' :whistling:
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EMP: Electro Magnetic Pulse. Generally thought to be produced by a high altitude nuclear explosion. Acts like a super solar flare frying electronic devices. Unfortunately most government equipment is protected and I suspect no DUmmies would have access to a nuclear device.
You say our government equipment is protected from the EMP from the sun, so how is this done, in caves or submarines ?
Seems like only 20% if that is protected and that being a last ditch effort to keep us going.
Bad Dog, what makes you think that Dummies have no access to Nuclear Devices.
Wasn't but a few years ago a 16 year old computer geek in California decided to build himself a bomb in the shed in the back yard. This one kid found a way to order most supplies on the internet. One vital component he could not find, was it heavy water ? Anyway one source became suspicious and called the FBI.
Result the property was so radio active everything including the family home was destroyed. Rumor has it the kid now in his 20's works for the government with a huge salary. Another is that his parents murdered him and buried him in their former back yard.
Have to question all of you, what would you do if your 16 year old son was to do this ???
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reformist2 (4,349 posts) Sat Jun 15, 2013, 09:44 PM
7. Overload the database with cat videos?
INGENIOUS! :rotf:
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You say our government equipment is protected from the EMP from the sun, so how is this done, in caves or submarines ?
Seems like only 20% if that is protected and that being a last ditch effort to keep us going.
Bad Dog, what makes you think that Dummies have no access to Nuclear Devices.
Wasn't but a few years ago a 16 year old computer geek in California decided to build himself a bomb in the shed in the back yard. This one kid found a way to order most supplies on the internet. One vital component he could not find, was it heavy water ? Anyway one source became suspicious and called the FBI.
Result the property was so radio active everything including the family home was destroyed. Rumor has it the kid now in his 20's works for the government with a huge salary. Another is that his parents murdered him and buried him in their former back yard.
Have to question all of you, what would you do if your 16 year old son was to do this ???
How is it done, shielding. They have known about the potential for EMP weapons since the 40's and have all critical systems protected.
I think your description of the 16 year old "computer geek" was a bad movie from the 70's. You don't order plutonium ( or heavy water for that matter) from Sears.
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INGENIOUS! :rotf:
Kinda like these guys, right?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPKf7y1F-Q[/youtube]
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I'd support the DUmp in a general hunger strike, if they ever decided to do one.
Hunger strikes don't work at the DUmp.
They depend on the honesty of the striker to abstain from food, and among democrats honesty is an unknown trait.
For example, DUmmy Bennyboy, a five-hundred-pound diabetic, claims to have been on a hunger strike since early April.
In the interim he has waged war with his siblings and attempted the murder of his mother, so I suspect he's taken some small amount of nourishment.
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I think your description of the 16 year old "computer geek" was a bad movie from the 70's. You don't order plutonium ( or heavy water for that matter) from Sears.
It's possible. Stranger thngs have happened.
Back in the 60s, an absent-minded professor discovered a type of synthetic rubber that could offset the effects of gravity.
He called it "flubber", and it would have revolutionized the NBA had it not fallen into the hands of corporatists.
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Time for the DUmmies to invent "Not One Damn Meme Day" to show how not reposting facebook stuff hurts the NSA or something.
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Hunger strikes don't work at the DUmp.
They depend on the honesty of the striker to abstain from food, and among democrats honesty is an unknown trait.
I know, I know. They'd have to go full Bobby Sands to get my support.
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Taverner
What will break the surveillance state?
Enough trying to get DC to try and be nice and play Constitutional
How do we destroy it?
How do we put ourselves in the cogs and wheels and get it to grind to a halt?
I don't get why they want it turned off. Once you've determined that you want liberalism to win over conservatism, you were automatically saying you wanted a surveillance state.
Will the libs claim that a surveillance state is not part of liberalism? Yes. Have we as conservatives been pointing out for years and years that it IS part of liberalism? Yes.
Libs can deny it all they want, but it's part and parcel of what they've wanted all along.
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It's possible. Stranger thngs have happened.
Back in the 60s, an absent-minded professor discovered a type of synthetic rubber that could offset the effects of gravity.
He called it "flubber", and it would have revolutionized the NBA had it not fallen into the hands of corporatists.
Now you're just being silly.
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The people that demand to criminalize your politics, your religion, your free market wages, your healthcare choices, your children's education, your reading habits, your news preferences and private possessions...
...are worried about "The Surveillance State."
**** you you *******ed pussified limp dick two-bit fascist wannabe pissant cock cheese licking pieces of shit.
This is everything you ever said you wanted.