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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on June 15, 2013, 11:08:57 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018411237
Oh my.
Locut0s (2,383 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
Well good thing I went to the clinic, could have had septicemia...
If you don't want to read about the removal of a cyst, well, fair warning
Right after getting back from Hawaii I developed a serious pilonidal cyst, which I posted about here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018410910
For those who don't know pilonidal cysts are cysts that develop right around your tail bone area (top of your butt crack to put it bluntly). I waited a day or two because I've had these in the past and they usually drained on their own, they are a chronic congenital issue usually. I had a number of hot baths to try to take the swelling and pain down but they didn't help much. The pain was such that I had trouble sitting, lying down and even walking. Last night I also started to feel a little unwell and thought I had a fever but my thermometer showed my temp was a normal 36-37 so I thought I was imagining it. I've also been extra depressed since getting back from Hawaii so I thought maybe I was just feeling bad because of that. This morning though the pain was too much so I knew I had to go to the clinic to have the thing drained, it was a good 3 to 4 inches across too D:
The DR at the clinic took my temp and low and behold I DID have a fever, a low one at 38 deg. I asked him how serious things were and while the guy was super mellow he did indicate it was a good thing I had come as it needed to be drained. I said the fever had me worried about developing septicemia and he said yup that's basically what you would develop if you left it alone.
Having a syringe of anaesthetic pumped into an already super painful area and manipulating said area was not the most fun thing but once the thing was lanced the pressure relief was fantastic He prescribed a course of pretty powerful antibiotics and I now have a referral to a surgeon to have a more permanent solution, as these types of cysts tent to recur.
So I'm relieved I went to the clinic, otherwise I might be dealing with septicemia! And that can be life threatening. Even so I feel a little ill still, shaky, hopefully the antibiotics kick in soon. But the pain is mostly gone
Sorry if TMI.
So if anyone else here develops a cyst and low grade fever, don't leave it alone, even if it seems to be minor!
rug (48,060 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:42 PM
2. Well I learned something today.
A butt crack is called the natal cleft.
A pilonidal cyst, also referred to as a pilonidal abscess, pilonidal sinus or sacrococcygeal fistula, is a cyst or abscess near or on the natal cleft of the buttocks that often contains hair and skin debris.
HarveyDarkey (5,664 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:44 PM
3. Glad you went to see the doctor.
Don't you just hate the Canadian Healthcare System?
Locut0s (2,383 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
5. Indeed I'm a student with no job, barely a student actually. And paid nothing...
I'm in between semesters and dropped a few courses so it's debatable if I'm even a full time student right now. And I haven't had a job in over a year. But didn't have to pay a dime, well aside from the very low monthly premiums we all pay. The antibiotics were also all covered except for about $3 on the extended plan I'm on. I don't expect to have to pay anything for the surgery later either.
<<<will have to devise reasons to use "natal cleft."
Such as, "the primitives can kiss franksolich's natal cleft."
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A modest request to all CCr's. If you ever give birth to a 10 lb. baby boil, please keep it to yourself. At least he didn't describe the smell.
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A modest request to all CCr's. If you ever give birth to a 10 lb. baby boil, please keep it to yourself. At least he didn't describe the smell.
I have no idea what those things are.
I guess they form because one doesn't wipe one's rear good after using the commode?
Everybody I know has good manners, so that's probably why I've never heard of it.
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This is usually do to poor personal hygiene. So this story I believe.
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Perhaps it's endemic to Hawaii.
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Isn't this the same or similar condition that kept Rush Limbaugh out of serving in Vietnam? :???:
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I've also been extra depressed since getting back from Hawaii so I thought maybe I was just feeling bad because of that.
This is why the story was posted, he wanted to brag to the penniless freaks of DUmmyland that he went to Hawaii.
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I have no idea what those things are.
I guess they form because one doesn't wipe one's rear good after using the commode?
Everybody I know has good manners, so that's probably why I've never heard of it.
It isn't necessarily a hygiene issue Another theory is that pilonidal cysts appear after trauma to that region of the body. During World War II, more than 80,000 soldiers developed pilonidal cysts that required a hospital stay. People thought the cysts were due to irritation from riding in bumpy Jeeps. For a while, the condition was actually called "Jeep disease
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I have no idea what those things are.
I guess they form because one doesn't wipe one's rear good after using the commode?
Everybody I know has good manners, so that's probably why I've never heard of it.
Actually caused by what basically amounts to ingrown hairs inside a large pore or injury. Pretty nasty looking after surgery as many look like they have a butt crack that extends several inches up their back.
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Actually caused by what basically amounts to ingrown hairs inside a large pore or injury. Pretty nasty looking after surgery as many look like they have a butt crack that extends several inches up their back.
Thanks so much for that visual. And now, off to lunch.
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I've also been extra depressed since getting back from Hawaii
Locut0s (2,383 posts) Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
5. Indeed I'm a student with no job, barely a student actually. And paid nothing...
Does Canada have something similar to our student loan scheme? How does one afford to go to Hawaii when one is an unemployed student??
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A modest request to all CCr's. If you ever give birth to a 10 lb. baby boil, please keep it to yourself. At least he didn't describe the smell.
Hmmm. So I guess posting the results of a You Tube search would be a bad idea? I could send it to you in a PM?
edit to add...I was just kidding! I went to see and there is a LOT of videos showing the lancing of these things...
I'm not gonna eat for a week! Gag me! Somethings are not meant to be seen! Talk about karma biting you on the...yeah.
I have paid the price of my own folly. Dang. I'm not doing that ever again!
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Does Canada have something similar to our student loan scheme? How does one afford to go to Hawaii when one is an unemployed student??
He is 30+ years old and still lives with Mommy and Daddy. He claims he has mental problems and seems surprised he doesn't have a girlfriend...in fact he claims he is still a virgin.
Pathetic is too weak a word to use for this guy, but I can't think of anything better. Parasite?
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This is usually do to poor personal hygiene. So this story I believe.
No it's not (pilonidal cyst), my son had one when he was about 17. He had it surgically removed.
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Fags call them "speed bumps"
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Does Canada have something similar to our student loan scheme? How does one afford to go to Hawaii when one is an unemployed student??
It's Canada, probably part of the free beer and travel money each DUmmie believes is owed to them for existing.
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I have no idea what those things are.
I guess they form because one doesn't wipe one's rear good after using the commode?
Everybody I know has good manners, so that's probably why I've never heard of it.
I immediately thought maybe.........sitting on one's butt too long ? :-)
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No it's not (pilonidal cyst), my son had one when he was about 17. He had it surgically removed.
We surgically treated quite a few on the ship. Got to see more of my shipmates behinds then I care to think about. :o
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We surgically treated quite a few on the ship. Got to see more of my shipmates behinds then I care to think about. :o
LOL
The poor kid suffered with it for quite awhile because he didn't want to tell me. Finally he called me into his bathroom and showed me. I about had a heart attack, I had never seen anything like it. His butt crack looks fine now. :p
Edited to add: not that I have looked at it lately. ::)
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Isn't this the same or similar condition that kept Rush Limbaugh out of serving in Vietnam? :???:
Yes it is, and the same DUmmies made fun of it for being something minor. It's not. As dane mentioned upthread, tens of thousands of soldiers in WWII were hospitalized for developing them. DUmmies, in all their idiocy, don't get that it's the doctor who makes these decisions during an induction physical, not the inductee. Some things you can't fake.
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Am I alone in wondering whether the true story (presuming that there is one) is that he hired a cheap nasty whore and caught some sexually transmitted infection from her/him?
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Am I alone in wondering whether the true story (presuming that there is one) is that he hired a cheap nasty whore and caught some sexually transmitted infection from her/him?
Not if you are thinking that it was a male whore.
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Not if you are thinking that it was a male whore.
Not just males, woman get infections of the glands that can turn into fishers into the body. Most times surgery is needed and a big dose of antibiotics before hand.
An old country Polish remedy calls for -----potato peelings be applied to any kind of boil be it where ever on the body. wrapped up tightly against the cyst and heat from a bottle of water applied to the area for 24/48 hours and the cyst would drain and heal itself. The potato peels were changed for fresh ever 12 hours or so.
Really nasty the peels got turned black, my Polish father in law got those damn things and I at the age of 17 had to change his dressings. But, it worked, the head popped right out relieving his pain.
Back in the old days when people took a bath once a week, the men I have been told had X marks on their necks from the barbers that lanced the boils and cysts.
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But, it worked, the head popped right out relieving his pain.
Okay, question, as obviously I know no more about this than how to deliver an infant or perform breast-reduction surgery.
If the goal is to make it pop, draining it, why bother with all that?
As any other teenager, I'd get pimples.
I'd take a pin or needle, jab the white part, and presto! it drained, problem solved.
<<<needs illumination, despite the delicacy of the subject.
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So anyway, this guy claims to have had a grapefruit cut out of his ass, and then to have sat through a long movie that evening.
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So anyway, this guy claims to have had a grapefruit cut out of his ass, and then to have sat through a long movie that evening.
Actually, really, I wish people wouldn't avoid answering my question.
I've never had a boil in my life. I've maybe seen them on other people, but not hearing the word itself, to me it was just what I refer to as an "unnatural protuberance of the skin." And no, I'm not going to google-image it.
So.....if one wishes to drain it, why not just pop it with the tip of sterile pin or needle, as one would do with a pimple?
Come on; I know the subject has some delicacy, but we're adults here.
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locust primitive gets a boil on his butt
Now the 30-year old virgin has some inkling of how his folks feel, carrying him like some Baby Huey-esque papoose every day. :fuelfire:
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Actually, really, I wish people wouldn't avoid answering my question.
I've never had a boil in my life. I've maybe seen them on other people, but not hearing the word itself, to me it was just what I refer to as an "unnatural protuberance of the skin." And no, I'm not going to google-image it.
So.....if one wishes to drain it, why not just pop it with the tip of sterile pin or needle, as one would do with a pimple?
Come on; I know the subject has some delicacy, but we're adults here.
Aw, forget about it; I've since posted my perfectly reasonable question over here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,88054.0.html
and maybe members of conservativecave who don't care for the DUmpster will be courteous enough to pay attention.
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Actually, really, I wish people wouldn't avoid answering my question.
I've never had a boil in my life. I've maybe seen them on other people, but not hearing the word itself, to me it was just what I refer to as an "unnatural protuberance of the skin." And no, I'm not going to google-image it.
So.....if one wishes to drain it, why not just pop it with the tip of sterile pin or needle, as one would do with a pimple?
Come on; I know the subject has some delicacy, but we're adults here.
Gross.
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Gross.
I know, but damn it, if you read my thread posing the question to non-DUmpster members of conservativecave, you'll see why it confuses me.
We freely discuss the primitives describing their experiences with human-animal sex and excretory functions here in the DUmpster, and those are even more gross.
Why the reticence about answering an innocent question?
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I know, but damn it, if you read my thread posing the question to non-DUmpster members of conservativecave, you'll see why it confuses me.
We freely discuss the primitives describing their experiences with human-animal sex and excretory functions here in the DUmpster, and those are even more gross.
Why the reticence about answering an innocent question?
Maybe none of us knows the answer. :???:
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Maybe none of us knows the answer. :???:
Yeah, right.
We got hardened military veterans here who've looked death in the face, we've got mothers here who've changed dirty diapers (among other things), we've got some hard-assed people here who've confronted life with toughness and endurance, who've seen it all, who've seen everything.
I'm really grouchy, put out, about this. Not only at vesta111, but at others blithely ignoring my question.
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We freely discuss the primitives describing their experiences with human-animal sex and excretory functions here in the DUmpster, and those are even more gross.
Most of us have vestanumbers on "ignore", so we rarely see filthy posts like that.
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Actually, really, I wish people wouldn't avoid answering my question.
I've never had a boil in my life. I've maybe seen them on other people, but not hearing the word itself, to me it was just what I refer to as an "unnatural protuberance of the skin." And no, I'm not going to google-image it.
So.....if one wishes to drain it, why not just pop it with the tip of sterile pin or needle, as one would do with a pimple?
Come on; I know the subject has some delicacy, but we're adults here.
coach,
The simple answer to the question of "why not pop a boil?", is that the boil almost certainly contains Staphylococcus aureus bacteria, and opening the boil will cause release of the bacteria-laden fluid, which may spread the infection around the area of the boil.
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I saw franksolich's aggravation building. I think Celtic provided the correct answer in another thread. vesta is a nurse or so I seem to remember the claim was, so it is logical to conclude she would have knowledge experience and expertise to answer such a question.
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Okay, question, as obviously I know no more about this than how to deliver an infant or perform breast-reduction surgery.
If the goal is to make it pop, draining it, why bother with all that?
As any other teenager, I'd get pimples.
I'd take a pin or needle, jab the white part, and presto! it drained, problem solved.
<<<needs illumination, despite the delicacy of the subject.
Nurse/ex Corpsman here,
Think of it as a huge pimple with lots of nasty stuff, IE a pimple on steroids. In some cases they can be drained, others require removal of the whole sac (the "pore" all that junk was in)and any damaged/infected tissue around it. Draining one is just like popping a pimple with a scalpel. The pus and other liquids are drained/squeezed out and sometimes there is kind of a hard core that has to come out as well. Then it is usually irrigated to get all that nasty stuff out and clean the area. Other times a surgeon has to go in and remove the whole thing. All depends on how bad it is and what you are working with.
Can do some checking when I get home to see if I can find a good visual of both.
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Nurse/ex Corpsman here,
Think of it as a huge pimple with lots of nasty stuff, IE a pimple on steroids. In some cases they can be drained, others require removal of the whole sac (the "pore" all that junk was in)and any damaged/infected tissue around it. Draining one is just like popping a pimple with a scalpel. The pus and other liquids are drained/squeezed out and sometimes there is kind of a hard core that has to come out as well. Then it is usually irrigated to get all that nasty stuff out and clean the area. Other times a surgeon has to go in and remove the whole thing. All depends on how bad it is and what you are working with.
Can do some checking when I get home to see if I can find a good visual of both.
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I saw franksolich's aggravation building.
Yeah, it was a sight to see in real life; I was getting pissed, no one answering my question even though just about everybody here (but myself) knew the answer.
To me, "boil" is just a four-letter word; I have nothing to "connect" it with, other than that I guess it's an unnatural protuberance in the skin with liquid inside that really should come out. I've probably actually seen boils, but never knew they were "boils."
It's like around here in real life, when I allege I'm probably one of only six or half a dozen native Nebraskans who's never seen a live rattlesnake. And it's an honest allegation; as far as I know, I've never seen a live rattlesnake.
Others (in real life) insist such is impossible; they say I've probably really seen a live rattlesnake, or many of them, but because they didn't fit my definition of "rattlesnake," I dismissed them as unimportant or irrelevant, and went on to something else, ignoring it, or them.
I do do that; if I don't know what it is, I don't bother paying attention.
Anyway.
I think Celtic provided the correct answer in another thread.
Yes, she did, as also did my good friend chitownchica, those two being about the only friends here (ooops, there's Chris_ too, in personal messages) who answer questions I have.
Others this morning have since answered my question, and my gratitude to them too, but I really needed the answer last evening, when I was on the verge of becoming a basket-case, infuriated that we had a "post-and-run" member who doesn't hang around in case there's questions.
That's a characteristic of the primitives--the big guy down in Bellevue being the best example--not of decent and civilized people.
vesta is a nurse.....
Yes, she is, or was (she's retired now, being quite ancient).
But my question, which she IGNORED was directed specifically to her, because it'd been inspired by something she'd said, and I thought she was the one who should answer my query.
Which she didn't (even though she was around), and I almost chewed the rafters off the ceiling in indignant vexation and galloping frustration.
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Yeah, right.
We got hardened military veterans here who've looked death in the face, we've got mothers here who've changed dirty diapers (among other things), we've got some hard-assed people here who've confronted life with toughness and endurance, who've seen it all, who've seen everything.
I'm really grouchy, put out, about this. Not only at vesta111, but at others blithely ignoring my question.
Good Grief Frank, give me at least 24 hours to answer you and your questions.
Some are on the money here with their explanations But I can fill you in on some of the dangers of these nasty critters and tell you why your parents had fits when you popped your pimples.
The largest organ we have is our skin, when anything pokes into it, that is an open door for every disease known to man to make a mad dash to get into the body before a scab forms.
It is an old wives tale that heating a pin or knife will kill germs, this is why we have autoclaves that sterilise medical instruments.
1# My daughter is on the list for a liver transplant, Hep C-----We THINK this goes way back to when she went to a sleep over at 12 and the girls decided to Pierce their ears. I was furious when I found out the girls had all used the same needle that had been passed through a flame for 5 seconds or so. It takes years and years for the bugs running about to mutate into Hep C so along the way as a kid and adult she also had tattoos.
2# Me, I noticed what I though was a black head and squeezed the darn thing, later it came back as some form of what I thought was a fat cyst and for a couple of years just sat there hanging out on my cheek. When I went for my yearly Physical on the way out I called attention to it by remarking that the small cyst was having baby's, tiny cysts were popping up around it. End result was I had the MOE treatment for cancer and one whole side of my face was dug out.
3# My youngest child contacted Staff Pneumonia and had her lungs collapsed at 2 weeks of age. Darn near lost her. Strange thing was in that time frame her fathers sister had a baby that also had staff and the only connection we could find was a grandmother that had cold sores and had handled both baby's. Odd that both baby's developed boils.
4# My ex-SIL developed an infection to the Jacobin Glands, she had been around her mother that was a bit odd, she insisted her children kiss her on the lips, EVEN WHEN SHE HAD COLD SORES.
5# Pink eye on the rise in Japan as the fad of eyeball licking has public health worried.
Any more questions ?
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Any more questions ?
Yes. I'm testing you here, vesta, dear, to keep you on your toes.
I'm not sure what they're really called, but I assume something similar to "skin tabs" or "skin tags," little tiny growths of surplus skin that abruptly pop out of nowhere.
I don't get many of them, but I get a few of them; I think it's the water around here, because I never had any until I moved out here. They're small, but they're visible and unsightly, and occur nearly all the time on the face.
I take my superduper heavy-duty extra-sharp stainless-steel "Made in West Germany" (they're older than I am) toe-nail clippers, and snip them off. Nothing bad's ever happened.
I've been told this is bad. Why? Nothing bad's ever happened, and it's nice to have a smooth complexion.
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Yes. I'm testing you here, vesta, dear, to keep you on your toes.
I'm not sure what they're really called, but I assume something similar to "skin tabs" or "skin tags," little tiny growths of surplus skin that abruptly pop out of nowhere.
I don't get many of them, but I get a few of them; I think it's the water around here, because I never had any until I moved out here. They're small, but they're visible and unsightly, and occur nearly all the time on the face.
I take my superduper heavy-duty extra-sharp stainless-steel "Made in West Germany" (they're older than I am) toe-nail clippers, and snip them off. Nothing bad's ever happened.
I've been told this is bad. Why? Nothing bad's ever happened, and it's nice to have a smooth complexion.
OMG Frank, do not do that ever again.
The worse case I ever saw was an elderly lady in a nursing home that was so covered with them they looked like some kind of Mushrooms-----None on her face though.
I asked her about what the heck they were as this was really shocking to me. She told me this was heredity and a problem for Brits. Only on her trunk, none on arms or legs.
Now I also have the skin tags and moles do run in the family, but I would have to be on PCP to even think of removing them myself.
These tags are interesting, if they are indeed surplus skin, why is it that people that weigh 400 pounds and have that stomach by pass and then shrink down to 150 pounds not be covered with them ???
I believe the study of skin ailments and what not to be fascinating, not something we delved into deeply in school. Then personally, it is not that often I see my naked back side and have to depend on Hubby to tell me there is something unusual growing on my upper back, then have a Doctor look at it only to tell me they will remove what ever when it begins to bother me.
You ain't seen nothing until you get Shingles. This a relative of Chicken Pox is horrid and comes from out of nowhere. Like a horrid sunburn it seems that people now tend to slap you on the back when they have never done before. I have been told that stress can bring this on, just another great mystery on how the body works.
Herpies, Another mystery, even on rotation at Public Health did I see this. Oh I saw plenty of unusual things but I was out of nursing for a good 15 years before this disease became wide spread along with all kinds of theory's.
Question---When you snip off these tags they must bleed, there has to be some kind of nerve ending in them to cause pain other wise they would become necrotic tissue .
Frank, you old scallywag, you are pulling my leg with this story, and thank you, sure got my mind off the problem of the day.
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Question---When you snip off these tags they must bleed, there has to be some kind of nerve ending in them to cause pain other wise they would become necrotic tissue .
Frank, you old scallywag, you are pulling my leg with this story, and thank you, sure got my mind off the problem of the day.
No, vesta, dear, I'm not pulling your leg. More than half the time, they bleed a tenth of a drop of blood and then quit; other times, they don't bleed at all. This has been going on for years.
To set your mind at ease, I don't dare touch moles; I see a new one, I panic, and run to the dermatologist, even if he's in another place a particular day (Yankton, Vermilion, Sioux City, Sioux Falls), as I want it off me pronto. He looks at it, and then either excises it himself with scapel or laser, a one-minute job, or has a nurse burn it off (dry ice?--I dunno).
He skips the anesthetic--I just want it off now and being, uh, somewhat macho, I can stand the pain. I just want it off. I don't mess with moles, because back in 1997, shortly after returning from the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, a nasty malignant one was removed from the left side of my face.
It's pleased God that since then, none of the others have been malignant, and I credit that to that I act quickly, and so they don't have time to become malignant. (The last one was taken off about a year and a half ago.) I'm really hyperparanoid about this, because my younger brother was apparently born with a propensity to develop melanoma, and even as a small child was always being rushed somewhere to have moles removed.
Cancer does not run in my family, even the far-extended one (great-great-grandparents, and all their descendants); I dunno why it struck my younger brother (he however died in an automobile accident at the age of 17) and very briefly, and transiently, myself.
The only difference between us and everybody else is that we were the only ones born in sun-hammered Nebraska, but with a genetic makeup that favors the soothing softening effects of the Baltic Sea or the North Sea in winter.
So to set your mind at ease, vesta, dear, no, I don't mess with moles; I just run to a professional to have them removed as quickly as possible (although for some reason there's four he insists have to stay there; I leave them alone, but don't like it).
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Yes. I'm testing you here, vesta, dear, to keep you on your toes.
I'm not sure what they're really called, but I assume something similar to "skin tabs" or "skin tags," little tiny growths of surplus skin that abruptly pop out of nowhere.
I don't get many of them, but I get a few of them; I think it's the water around here, because I never had any until I moved out here. They're small, but they're visible and unsightly, and occur nearly all the time on the face.
I take my superduper heavy-duty extra-sharp stainless-steel "Made in West Germany" (they're older than I am) toe-nail clippers, and snip them off. Nothing bad's ever happened.
I've been told this is bad. Why? Nothing bad's ever happened, and it's nice to have a smooth complexion.
As long as everything is kept really clean there is nothing wrong with what you are doing. I don't think Vesta has ever worked outside the sterile confines of a hospital or doctors office. We snipped them off all the time with no ill effects.
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LOL
The poor kid suffered with it for quite awhile because he didn't want to tell me. Finally he called me into his bathroom and showed me. I about had a heart attack, I had never seen anything like it. His butt crack looks fine now. :p
Edited to add: not that I have looked at it lately. ::)
Why do they do that? My daughter didn't tell me she had pain on urination for 3 days until the pain was so bad in her lower gut she needed help...she had a UTI! WTH! The dr chided her too!!!
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I panic, and run to the dermatologist
The only trait coach shares with DUmmy mopinko.