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Title: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2013, 12:05:00 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022994103

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:04 PM

Star Member ljm2002 (7,358 posts)

Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption scheme?
One that doesn't cause an undue burden, and that can be easily shared with friends and family?

I guess the only way to keep it simple would be to have a single bit of software that everyone uses. Most of us do not want to deal with things like "Oh, Dad used MyPGP so I'll have to crank that up to decipher his email to me" or "Drat, Mom used YourRSA to encrypt her email, now I'll have to download and configure it in order to read her email".

It's hard to make it easy and transparent for the average user if there is not a single standard. But if I were an investing sort, I'd be looking at firms that do encryption programs for email communications, also for phone messages. Not just for business (they already do extensive encryption and vpn), but for individuals. Because my guess is that there will be a groundswell of interest in such things, in the USA and elsewhere.

Even the NSA has limitations on what it can decrypt.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Response to ljm2002 (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:06 PM

Star Member Sheepshank (5,160 posts)
1. hardly anyone knows pig latin any more n/t

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:07 PM

Star Member ljm2002 (7,358 posts)
2. Well that would hardly be an effective encryption method...

...but thanks anyway.

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:11 PM

riqster (4,374 posts)
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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:18 PM

Star Member RC (21,818 posts)
8. So, send our E-mails to you to encrypt/decrypt and forward?

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Response to ljm2002 (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:12 PM

Star Member FSogol (16,159 posts)
6. Just wrap tin foil around your modem and router.

And head and window sills and cat and TV and gas meter and ......

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:25 PM

Nuclear Unicorn (7,111 posts)
11. Write it on a piece of paper and mail it in an opaque envelope.

Then they actually need a warrant citing probable cause and what they're looking for specifically.

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:26 PM

Star Member Katashi_itto (1,813 posts)
12. There are several heres one

http://www.sendinc.com/software/outlook-email-encryption-add-in

Wonders of wonders if the site was ran by NSA.

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:46 PM

napoleon_in_rags (3,716 posts)
17. Just use one of the private services.

Last edited Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
hushmail for instance. $35 a year with a gig of storage.
http://www.hushmail.com/services/hushmail/

Here's another one:

http://www.reagan.com/

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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 05:55 PM

Star Member MjolnirTime (1,389 posts)
26. do you really think they care what's in your email?

How childish!

Silly question. The DUmmy is a member of the DUmp so the feds do have a keen interest.

Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on June 12, 2013, 12:21:55 PM
Book cipher. All of you lefties have a copy of Das Kapital, Earth in the Balance or A People's History of the United States propping a table or something, use that.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: USA4ME on June 12, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
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ljm2002

Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption scheme?

You're a liberal wanting to fool the NSA? That's easy. Just try and say something intelligent. They'll never believe it came from you.

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Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Bad Dog on June 12, 2013, 12:27:06 PM
THEY CAN READ YOUR MINDS MAN!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN READ YOUR MINDS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Karin on June 12, 2013, 12:32:09 PM
 :lmao:

I like Nuclear Unicorn's idea.  Bring back the art of letter writing. 
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Chris_ on June 12, 2013, 12:38:27 PM
:lmao:

I like Nuclear Unicorn's idea.  Bring back the art of letter writing. 
They'll just complain about the fundies at the Post Office steaming open their mail to read it.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Karin on June 12, 2013, 12:46:05 PM
They're union, it's fine.  Letter writing is toooo much work for the DUmmies, though.  Plus, you have to sit and consider another person, not just yourself.  Nope, too hard. 
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: FlaGator on June 12, 2013, 01:06:33 PM
Lemon juice can be used as invisible ink...


I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2013, 01:17:34 PM
Lemon juice can be used as invisible ink...


I'm just saying.

Anyone remember this from our old home?

Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Wineslob on June 12, 2013, 01:34:36 PM
THEY CAN READ YOUR MINDS MAN!!!!!!!!! THEY CAN READ YOUR MINDS!!!!!!


 :tinfoil2:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: DefiantSix on June 12, 2013, 01:35:19 PM
Lemon juice can be used as invisible ink...


I'm just saying.

Even better is the invisible ink you can make from the waste products of pressing castor oil, DUmmies.  Do be aware though, that if you wear latex gloves when you prepare or use it, it deactivates the invisibility property, and everybody can see what you wrote.


 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
Like my post #8 above, just use white letters.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 12, 2013, 02:11:52 PM
Even better is the invisible ink you can make from the waste products of pressing castor oil, DUmmies.  Do be aware though, that if you wear latex gloves when you prepare or use it, it deactivates the invisibility property, and everybody can see what you wrote.


 :popcorn:

:evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Texacon on June 12, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
What a great idea!  We'll come up with an encryption for free the NSA can't decode and we'll distribute it to EVERYONE!  Bwahahahahaha  That'll show the NSA!

 :lmao:

KC
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Skul on June 12, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
Anyone remember this from our old home?


I saw what you did there.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Chris_ on June 12, 2013, 02:57:25 PM
oh no, the super sekrit mystery text.  Nobody could possibly read it. :rotf:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: jukin on June 12, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
Hey preezy big ears told us they don't read the emails or listen to the phone calls, what's to worry about?
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Texacon on June 12, 2013, 03:37:43 PM
I saw what you did there.  :cheersmate:

Wouldn't it be more apropos to say you didn't see what he did there?!

 :-)

KC
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: diesel driver on June 12, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
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ljm2002

Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption scheme?

Forget e-mail and use real mail.

Try the US Postal Service!   :-)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: miskie on June 12, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
AFAIK, encryption routines were classed as Auxiliary Military Technology, and later changed to another status by Bubba Clinton via executive order.- The change in status made it easier for software developers to import and export their products, before that any strong encryption couldn't be moved to and from the USA without breaking the same laws that prevent weapon trafficking.

 With that being said, The Government can and still does demand access to engines when a strong encryption scheme is developed as part of licencing requirements.
 
Regardless, the bottom line remains the same. If The USA cant decipher it, its not legal to use within the borders of the United States.

So, the short answer is 'no' - Too bad, primitives.


Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2013, 07:49:52 PM
A=Z, B=Y, C=X, D=W and so on. The feds will never figure it out.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: miskie on June 12, 2013, 07:53:04 PM
A=Z, B=Y, C=X, D=W and so on. The feds will never figure it out.

ROT13 FTW !!!!!!   :cheerleader: :cheerleader2:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 12, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
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Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:04 PM
Star Member ljm2002 (7,358 posts)

Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption scheme?

Ask nadin to write your e-mails.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: FlaGator on June 12, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Anyone remember this from our old home?



But of course...
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: docstew on June 12, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
I'd figure they'd want they're emails read so they can prove their loyalty to Dear Reader.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: thundley4 on June 12, 2013, 08:33:59 PM
AFAIK, encryption routines were classed as Auxiliary Military Technology, and later changed to another status by Bubba Clinton via executive order.- The change in status made it easier for software developers to import and export their products, before that any strong encryption couldn't be moved to and from the USA without breaking the same laws that prevent weapon trafficking.

 With that being said, The Government can and still does demand access to engines when a strong encryption scheme is developed as part of licencing requirements.
 
Regardless, the bottom line remains the same. If The USA cant decipher it, its not legal to use within the borders of the United States.

So, the short answer is 'no' - Too bad, primitives.




Encrypting emails is a sure way to draw attention to yourself.  OTOH, it will also cause the to waste resources, heh heh. 

There are free programs that allow written text to be encrypted into jpeg files.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 12, 2013, 08:37:06 PM

There are free programs that allow written text to be encrypted into jpeg files.

But the DUmmies think that NSA will be stumped as to their messages.

It takes a special kind of stupid.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: miskie on June 12, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
Encrypting emails is a sure way to draw attention to yourself.  OTOH, it will also cause the to waste resources, heh heh. 

There are free programs that allow written text to be encrypted into jpeg files.

It's pretty easy to identify and extract text from an altered image if you know what to look for. Its just slightly harder than pulling EXIF data. The most famous utility has got to be 'Hide In Picture'.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: thundley4 on June 12, 2013, 09:00:40 PM
It's pretty easy to identify and extract text from an altered image if you know what to look for. Its just slightly harder than pulling EXIF data. The most famous utility has got to be 'Hide In Picture'.

Here is what I was thinking of.  http://www.snapfiles.com/get/filecamo.html

Does exif data exist on random pics downloaded from the internet?
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Duke Nukum on June 12, 2013, 10:58:08 PM
Check with Joker Tsarnaev. The NSA didn't have a clue as to what those two were up to.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Texacon on June 13, 2013, 09:33:53 AM
Check with Joker Tsarnaev. The NSA didn't have a clue as to what those two were up to.

There's a reason for that; (http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/061213-659753-all-intrusive-obama-terror-dragnet-excludes-mosques.htm)

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Homeland Insecurity: The White House assures that tracking our every phone call and keystroke is to stop terrorists, and yet it won't snoop in mosques, where the terrorists are.

That's right, the government's sweeping surveillance of our most private communications excludes the jihad factories where homegrown terrorists are radicalized.

Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to FBI agents. No more surveillance or undercover string operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

<<Snip>>

KC

Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Linda on June 13, 2013, 10:43:24 AM
A guy on FOX show Happening Now says HUSHNOW.COM is a good for encrypted email.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: RWKindaGuy on June 13, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
:lmao:

I like Nuclear Unicorn's idea.  Bring back the art of letter writing. 

Do I need a keyboard to do that?   :tongue:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: FlippyDoo on June 13, 2013, 12:16:39 PM
I think coach has email encryption that no one can break. The DUmmies need to forward all their emails to coach. I'm sure he'll safely send them to where they need to be.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: 67 Rover on June 13, 2013, 02:40:13 PM
Do I need a keyboard to do that?   :tongue:

Can you just imagine the horrendous spelling in those letters from the younger generation without the aid of spell check.  They do not have the benefit of knowing how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: marv on June 13, 2013, 03:37:10 PM
QMPQU TURLN PFQDZ USIBB TRIQH
KCXED GAJVH ZOSRT LEOKM IBWEA
LCUYL IVGKZ FKNZM HHQBC IPBZN
QTTTK AZLFI WGMQA BEJMS MKLRA
NQVMH MQERN APTOC TSKIJ QVBNA
ZZHNP WSWKE ZHBAH TTCCU WNAZC
LMEUP BIIJT GWWXZ BUQLH THQPN
JPQJN ORAZX
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: dutch508 on June 13, 2013, 04:14:09 PM
JNILB WXLZP MLPML EYFLJ
GJDXA UXYVR CHNLG RNIRZ
TFSNM FQPIB TPZSK ZZXXC

There are come cool-assed Enigma Simulators out on the web!
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 13, 2013, 04:53:31 PM
QMPQU TURLN PFQDZ USIBB TRIQH
KCXED GAJVH ZOSRT LEOKM IBWEA
LCUYL IVGKZ FKNZM HHQBC IPBZN
QTTTK AZLFI WGMQA BEJMS MKLRA
NQVMH MQERN APTOC TSKIJ QVBNA
ZZHNP WSWKE ZHBAH TTCCU WNAZC
LMEUP BIIJT GWWXZ BUQLH THQPN
JPQJN ORAZX

RUSSIAN or POLISH?
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 13, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
RUSSIAN or POLISH?

Swahili.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 13, 2013, 06:43:56 PM
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Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption scheme?

Try this:

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Thu Jun 13, 2013, 06:07 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,193 posts)

I got this jeep on fd maintainance schedule almost
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 13, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
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hu Jun 13, 2013, 06:07 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,193 posts)

I got this jeep on fd maintainance schedule almost

I have no idea what the hell it's trying to say.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 13, 2013, 07:03:17 PM
I have no idea what the hell it's trying to say.

I think it means  "I'm an idiot and I post on DU to prove it."

Little rusty on DUnglish though. It could mean "I'm constipated and need to shit" too.   :shrug: :shrug:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 13, 2013, 07:07:00 PM
Eugene.

(http://www.pixeldecals.com/shop/image/cache/data/eugene-400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: 67 Rover on June 13, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
I have no idea what the hell it's trying to say.

I think she is trying to say that her Jeep is on a Fire Dept maintenance schedule,  :lmao:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: AllosaursRus on June 13, 2013, 08:04:13 PM
Even better is the invisible ink you can make from the waste products of pressing castor oil, DUmmies.  Do be aware though, that if you wear latex gloves when you prepare or use it, it deactivates the invisibility property, and everybody can see what you wrote.


 :popcorn:

Glad Ya cleared that up. I thought it meant your prostate was exiting yer ass because ya haven't been laid in 20 years!

Hell, anyone understand what a DUmp DIver writes anyway? They don't need invisible ink.

I think it means  "I'm an idiot and I post on DU to prove it."

Little rusty on DUnglish though. It could mean "I'm constipated and need to shit" too.   :shrug: :shrug:

Or, in layman's terms: "I've had my head so far up my ass, my turds have never seen the sunlight."
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: RWKindaGuy on June 13, 2013, 08:18:53 PM
Can you just imagine the horrendous spelling in those letters from the younger generation without the aid of spell check.  They do not have the benefit of knowing how to use a dictionary or a thesaurus.

I know.  When I was in college (in ancient Rome) I used a manual typewriter to write my term papers.  No spell check, no automatic white out, no cut and paste.  When I tell that to the kids, they look at me like I was on fire.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: miskie on June 13, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
QMPQU TURLN PFQDZ USIBB TRIQH
KCXED GAJVH ZOSRT LEOKM IBWEA
LCUYL IVGKZ FKNZM HHQBC IPBZN
QTTTK AZLFI WGMQA BEJMS MKLRA
NQVMH MQERN APTOC TSKIJ QVBNA
ZZHNP WSWKE ZHBAH TTCCU WNAZC
LMEUP BIIJT GWWXZ BUQLH THQPN
JPQJN ORAZX

I cant look at this type of cipher without immediately thinking about Microsoft product codes.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Airwolf on June 13, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
What a bunch of geniuses. They somehow forget the Government was running codes and ciphers long before the age of computers and have all those high tech and expensive ,payed for by the taxpayer Cray super computers at their disposal.  They may not catch the average terrorist but the average DUmmy on the other hand is something else. How about all of you DUmmies go out to the middle of the desert in Nevada and meet up. That way no one can find you out there near Area 51 and say drop a few dozen 500lbs bombs on your ass. They would never find you I swear.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: obumazombie on June 13, 2013, 10:14:08 PM
What is needed is a good "Emperor has no clothes" encryption code.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: DefiantSix on June 14, 2013, 12:34:26 AM
If the DUmbshits are looking for a system the gub'mint can't read, they could try ARABIC. :thatsright:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: diesel driver on June 14, 2013, 03:51:11 AM
If the DUmbshits are looking for a system the gub'mint can't read, they could try ARABIC. :thatsright:


Yeah, that's working GREAT for the terrorists!   :argh:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: txradioguy on June 14, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
The last time a private citizen came up with a really good encryption tool...the Government threw him in jail for refusing to hand it over to them so they could use it.

Anyone remember PGP?
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: FlaGator on June 14, 2013, 12:34:16 PM
I think she is trying to say that her Jeep is on a Fire Dept maintenance schedule,  :lmao:

You should be banned from CC for knowing that.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: DefiantSix on June 14, 2013, 01:19:53 PM
Yeah, that's working GREAT for the terrorists!   :argh:

Ed Zachary.
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: DefiantSix on June 14, 2013, 01:21:32 PM
The last time a private citizen came up with a really good encryption tool...the Government threw him in jail for refusing to hand it over to them so they could use it.

Anyone remember PGP?

Yup. (http://buy.symantec.com/estore/clp/smb_d4v2_9p9s_pgpencryption1_default)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: Tucker on June 14, 2013, 04:14:37 PM
You should be banned from CC for knowing that.  :rofl:

H5 for the obvious.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good, simple email encryption that NSA can't break
Post by: I_B_Perky on June 14, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Or, in layman's terms: "I've had my head so far up my ass, my turds have never seen the sunlight."

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

H5 Allosaurus!!!