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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on June 14, 2008, 11:49:11 AM
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-14-08 10:36 AM
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What are the crimes of Bush /Cheney?
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In a nutshell, so I can send it to a Rush dittohead cousin )
Boy those guys (dittoheads) are so thoroughly brainwashed, they are almost beyond hope. But we still have to try.....
At long last we will see the list of written laws violated and the evidence gathered.
sharesunited (518 posts) Sat Jun-14-08 10:39 AM
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1. I keep a handy list for such occasions.
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:40 AM by sharesunited
election fraud, torture, war of aggression, war based on lies, war for profit, corruption of communications media, secret law making, destruction of separation of powers, shredding of Constitution, distortion of science, illegal spying, theocratic tendencies, corruption by oil corporations, 9-11 negligence, environmental destruction, failure to pursue Osama bin Laden, lawless detention, alienation of former allies, slaughter of innocents, fiscal and mortgage industry oversight irresponsibility, erosion of the rule of law, neglect of New Orleans and Gulf Coast, terror warning fear mongering, and nearly psychedelically unbelievable incompetence and brazen criminality
Uhmmm......no violation of a statute,just political stuff.
Am I wrong about what a crime actually is?
blue sky at night (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-14-08 10:43 AM
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2. this will kick some ass....
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 10:44 AM by blue sky at night
been there and done this with my Freeper Cousin: have a few days, read this list that just keeps growing!
http://www.netrootsmass.net/Hugh/Bush_list.html
BTW: the best use of this massive list is to copy and paste the whole thing into the body of your email, that will freak out even the most dyed in the wool freeper!
I thought this might be it but all it is is a page of left loony whines and accusations.
Strange.
babylonsister (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-14-08 11:04 AM
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12. Here's two more links that might fit your needs:
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 11:06 AM by babylonsister
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=...
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/link.php?id=55512
This must be it at last........no just more ranting about political differences of opinions and interpretations.
I got to the end of the thread and still nothing....what gives?
DUmbasses there take themselves so seriously too. :rotf:
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I saw this earlier at DU and got excited. I thought my dreams had come true and finally some DUmmie was going to get serious and really make a sturdy point. Nope. It turned out to be more of their unsubstantial wishin' & hopin'. Not one "crime" is listed, or even something unique to the Bush presidency which would make Bush the first president to use such power.
It is the same old BS (< that stands for 'bullshit'). If they want to arrest President Bush then they are going to have to arrest Clinton, Bush Sr., and Carter. Then they are going to have to go back and list every president at least back to FDR as criminals all.
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secret law making? How do you know if a "secret" law has been made? Wouldn't finding out it's been made make it not secret any longer?
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secret law making? How do you know if a "secret" law has been made? Wouldn't finding out it's been made make it not secret any longer?
(http://www.newsfromme.com/images5/johnvernon.jpg)
I am passing a double-secret law. You must obey it!
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Anyone notice something real funny about this?
Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-14-08 10:36 AM
Original message
What are the crimes of Bush /Cheney?
In a nutshell, so I can send it to a Rush dittohead cousin )
Boy those guys (dittoheads) are so thoroughly brainwashed, they are almost beyond hope. But we still have to try.....
....and yet it is you who comes to DU to get marching orders and talking points. :lmao:
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I saw this earlier at DU and got excited. I thought my dreams had come true and finally some DUmmie was going to get serious and really make a sturdy point. Nope. It turned out to be more of their unsubstantial wishin' & hopin'. Not one "crime" is listed, or even something unique to the Bush presidency which would make Bush the first president to use such power.
It is the same old BS (< that stands for 'bullshit'). If they want to arrest President Bush then they are going to have to arrest Clinton, Bush Sr., and Carter. Then they are going to have to go back and list every president at least back to FDR as criminals all.
The primitives are constantly saying that the President and Vice Presidents crimes are either too many to mention or that they are well documented.
I saw that thread and figured there would be hundreds of posts with few duplicates but for some reason they are a bit tongue tied on the subject. :-)
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secret law making? How do you know if a "secret" law has been made? Wouldn't finding out it's been made make it not secret any longer?
Not only that, but if a secret law has been broken, how do we know? And how do you prosecute while preserving the integrity of the secret? Or is the secret law an alibi-in-waiting to be presented in defense if indeed the prosecution of a conflicting law is attempted?
It is all so damn complicated!
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I guess it never occurred to them that a laundry list of "supposed" crimes and whiny rants is NOT evidence that an actual crime has been committed. Any dittohead could shred these lists apart in about 5 minutes. Mumia gets what...3 or 4 trials and they believe to the depths of their souls (do DUmmie's have souls?) he's innocent but a list of disagreements with no PROOF that a law was actually broken and they're ready to send the president to the Hague sans trial. This would be akin to someone asking me for my favorite bread recipe and me giving them just the list of ingredients without instructions for putting them together. Can we at least put the older moonbats in nursing homes? Wouldn't the drugs have fried their brains enough by now that they couldn't pass a simple cometency test?
Cindie
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Can we at least put the older moonbats in nursing homes?
Only if we can use full restraints . . .
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Just for fun:
election fraud - no proof on the Republican side -- on the democratic side, can you say "ohio?"
torture - not a crime, not proven, Pelosi and democratic seniors were briefed on waterboarding, not performed by Bush/Cheney
war of aggression - not a crime, not even a concept
war based on lies - not a crime, not true, not proven
war for profit - not a crime, not true, not proven
corruption of communications media - - not a crime, not true, not proven
secret law making - no such thing
destruction of separation of powers - not a crime (else LBJ would have been jailed), but true - the Bush Administration ceded way too much power to Congress
shredding of Constitution - no such thing
distortion of science - WTF?
illegal spying - all surveillance was legal at the time performed (and I hope it is YOUR house that gets it when critical intelligence slips through the loophole you lefties created)
theocratic tendencies - WTF?
corruption by oil corporations - not a crime, no proof
9-11 negligence - WTF?
environmental destruction - not a crime, not true
failure to pursue Osama bin Laden - not a crime, not true
lawless detention - not a crime, not true
alienation of former allies - not a crime, not true, who cares what a bunch of yellow cowards think of us?
slaughter of innocents - not true, blame the terrorists, not us
fiscal and mortgage industry oversight irresponsibility - not a crime, not true, not an Administration issue
erosion of the rule of law - WTF?
neglect of New Orleans and Gulf Coast - not true But you SHOULD arrest the Governor of LA and the Mayor of NOLA for this
terror warning fear mongering - WTF?
and nearly psychedelically unbelievable incompetence - according to whom? You?
and brazen criminality - So the definition of "crime" is "criminality"?
Need we say more?
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:bs: :mental: EOM
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failure to pursue Osama bin Laden - not a crime, not true
Wouldn't we have to arrest Clinton first? I mean the guy had Osama in his gun sights and didn't pull the trigger, which in hindsight could've prevented most of the things today they think are crimes. But, I guess when your trigger finger is busy with pudgy interns it's okay to play tag with terrorists instead of killing the bastard.
Cindie
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How about the DUmmies?
Treason
Slander
Libel
Vandalism
Assault
Tresspassing
Inciting to riot
Desecrating a gravesite
Fraud
Shoplifting
Stolen Valor Act
Child abuse
Contributing to the delinquency of minors
Civil rights violations
Narcotics possession
Unlawful body odor
Creating painfully stretched nicknames
Willful and wanton hypocrisy
Public stupidity
Public ignorance
Public display of a (virtual) sex act on a foreign dictator
Public display of a (virtual) sex act on terrorists
Failure to maintain any sense of irony
Failure to yield to those with greater intelligence
Failure to leave momma's basement
Failure in everything
Sexual assault on insects
Illegal number of photo threads showing yellow-toothed Californians
Excessive use of bouncing green smilies
Inadequate use of shampoo
Theft of battery charge from Tazers
Theft of the word "compassion"
Theft of oxygen
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Does exposure to too much 'truthiness' cause cavities ? I ask because reading that condensed "Moonbat's Guide to The Presidency" made my teeth hurt.
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-14-08 10:36 AM
Original message
What are the crimes of Bush /Cheney?
They tried to play nice and work with the Democrats in a time of war.
Next?
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How about the DUmmies?
Treason
Slander
Libel
Vandalism
Assault
Tresspassing
Inciting to riot
Desecrating a gravesite
Fraud
Shoplifting
Stolen Valor Act
Child abuse
Contributing to the delinquency of minors
Civil rights violations
Narcotics possession
Unlawful body odor
Creating painfully stretched nicknames
Willful and wanton hypocrisy
Public stupidity
Public ignorance
Public display of a (virtual) sex act on a foreign dictator
Public display of a (virtual) sex act on terrorists
Failure to maintain any sense of irony
Failure to yield to those with greater intelligence
Failure to leave momma's basement
Failure in everything
Sexual assault on insects
Illegal number of photo threads showing yellow-toothed Californians
Excessive use of bouncing green smilies
Inadequate use of shampoo
Theft of battery charge from Tazers
Theft of the word "compassion"
Theft of oxygen
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
H5!
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To the DUmmie mind, the biggest crimes that Bush/Cheney are guilty of are.......
1-They were born.
2-They continue to breathe.
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When the day comes that Bush/Cheney pass away the Dummies will still be upset about the fact that they were born.
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Dennis Prager was talking about this article today on his show. Thought this was an appropriate place to post it. This is from the LA Times and written by James Kirchick who is an assistant editor of the New Republic.
Bush never lied to us about Iraq
The administration simply got bad intelligence. Critics are wrong to assert deception.
By James Kirchick
June 16, 2008
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The memory of this gaffe reverberates in the contemporary rhetoric of many Democrats, who, when attacking the Bush administration's case for war against Saddam Hussein, employ essentially the same argument. In 2006, John F. Kerry explained the Senate's 77-23 passage of the Iraq war resolution this way: "We were misled. We were given evidence that was not true." On the campaign trail, Hillary Rodham Clinton dodged blame for her pro-war vote by claiming that "the mistakes were made by this president, who misled this country and this Congress."
Nearly every prominent Democrat in the country has repeated some version of this charge, and the notion that the Bush administration deceived the American people has become the accepted narrative of how we went to war.
Yet in spite of all the accusations of White House "manipulation" -- that it pressured intelligence analysts into connecting Hussein and Al Qaeda and concocted evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- administration critics continually demonstrate an inability to distinguish making claims based on flawed intelligence from knowingly propagating falsehoods.
In 2004, the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously approved a report acknowledging that it "did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments." The following year, the bipartisan Robb-Silberman report similarly found "no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
Contrast those conclusions with the Senate Intelligence Committee report issued June 5, the production of which excluded Republican staffers and which only two GOP senators endorsed. In a news release announcing the report, committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV got in this familiar shot: "Sadly, the Bush administration led the nation into war under false pretenses."
Yet Rockefeller's highly partisan report does not substantiate its most explosive claims. Rockefeller, for instance, charges that "top administration officials made repeated statements that falsely linked Iraq and Al Qaeda as a single threat and insinuated that Iraq played a role in 9/11." Yet what did his report actually find? That Iraq-Al Qaeda links were "substantiated by intelligence information." The same goes for claims about Hussein's possession of biological and chemical weapons, as well as his alleged operation of a nuclear weapons program.
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Read the rest here: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kirchick16-2008jun16,0,4808346.story