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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dori on June 09, 2013, 12:55:21 PM
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Whistleblower’s NSA warning: ‘Just the tip of the iceberg’ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/7/the-national-security-agencys-collection-of-phone-/)
By Shaun Waterman The Washington Times
Friday, June 7, 2013
The National Security Agency’s collection of phone data from all of Verizon’s U.S. customers is just the “tip of the iceberg,†says a former NSA official who estimates the agency has data on as many as 20 trillion phone calls and emails by U.S. citizens.
William Binney, an award-winning mathematician and noted NSA whistleblower, says the collection dates back to when the super-secret agency began domestic surveillance after the Sept. 11 attacks.
“I believe they’ve been collecting data about all domestic calls since October 2001,†said Mr. Binney, who worked at NSA for more than 30 years. “That’s more than a billion calls a day.â€
Thomas Drake, another NSA whistleblower was on Huckabee's show last night. He said that what the NSA has been doing is; "it's routine. We now have a systemic and institutionalized surveillance system on an industrial scale".
He also said that there is a digital index of your life and that there are no controls at all, and what controls there are, are not subject to public review or debate.
He has been charged with espionage. Obama called him a hero in '08, but in '12 he touts how many leakers and whistleblowers he's gone after, more so than all other Administrations combines.
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About a month ago The Ulsterman Report said there was another big shoe dropping & it would come from the Intel. folks. I guess they didn't like being used as patsies on the Benghazi memo.
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The dogwhistle is in the working inventory of whistleblowers, allegedly.
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This is an interview by The Guardian with 29 yr old Edward Snowden, the NSA whistleblower. It's quite interesting.
NSA Leaker Revealed (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance)
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I find it incomprehensible that a 29-year old kid, little to no education, can have access to the levels that he claims to have had.
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I find it incomprehensible that a 29-year old kid, little to no education, can have access to the levels that he claims to have had.
I read that he was something of a whiz kid with computer systems.
Did you read his interview?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why
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I read that he was something of a whiz kid with computer systems.
Did you read his interview?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why
Yes. I saw the video interview. Whiz kid or not, you have to have CREDENTIALS to get to those kinds of levels -- or at least, I'd think so. Since he has virtually no discernible credentials, other than a talent for computers, I just don't see how he can get to the levels he claims to have had.
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Yes. I saw the video interview. Whiz kid or not, you have to have CREDENTIALS to get to those kinds of levels -- or at least, I'd think so. Since he has virtually no discernible credentials, other than a talent for computers, I just don't see how he can get to the levels he claims to have had.
The diminutive bradly manning???
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Yes. I saw the video interview. Whiz kid or not, you have to have CREDENTIALS to get to those kinds of levels -- or at least, I'd think so. Since he has virtually no discernible credentials, other than a talent for computers, I just don't see how he can get to the levels he claims to have had.
When I was in the Marines, I was turned down for a "Top secret clearance" because my grand mother and grand father were born overseas. Now they give out those clearances to foreign born people.
Things have changed.
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Q: Does your family know you are planning this?
A: "No. My family does not know what is happening … My primary fear is that they will come after my family, my friends, my partner. Anyone I have a relationship with …
He might be one of "them".....him and Bradley Manning can bunk together.
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About a month ago The Ulsterman Report said there was another big shoe dropping & it would come from the Intel. folks. I guess they didn't like being used as patsies on the Benghazi memo.
There's been more shoes dropping than in Imelda Marcos' collection.
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^Excellent Marcos reference.
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The diminutive bradly manning???
Snowden. In all his fuzzy-cheeked glory.
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Snowden has a girlfriend, he's not gay. He also thinks what Manning did was wrong.