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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 04, 2013, 07:00:34 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (120,852 posts)
I am amazed at how easily manipulated people are.
Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2013, 11:27 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Serious.
$1500.00 for a room for a night for the IRS....the horror! $55 million in training budget!!!!! My God the waste and abuse!!! Reminds me of the GAO scandal. Has any of the outraged asked why Darell Issa targeted the IRS or the GAO? These two are among the most efficient agencies in the US Government.
I gotta give it to Issa, he knows his marks. Now ask yourself how bad is the abuse with contractors, Issa's friends, in both DOD (for the record they still have $400.00 toilets, it's called black opps). And let me raise the Department of Homeland Security.
Those two have abuse, graft, corruption, built inefficiencies. Wake me up when Issa goes after those for the same. I could start with the Air Force Command that all it does is transport VIPs. And that is just the top of the iceberg. Or for that matter all the fancy toys TSA uses.
But go on, be outraged over some employees line dancing in a video...cause we all know, nothing like this ever happens somewhere else.
Amazed...really.
If any private sector company got the rate of return on investment the IRS has gotten from those training goofy exercise...there be books written, and stock through the moon
:whistling:
[youtube=425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5OZZbQfheg[/youtube]
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Link please?
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nadinbrzezinski (120,852 posts)
I am amazed at how easily manipulated people are.
Last edited Tue Jun 4, 2013, 11:27 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Serious.
$1500.00 for a room for a night for the IRS....the horror! $55 million in training budget!!!!! My God the waste and abuse!!! Reminds me of the GAO scandal. Has any of the outraged asked why Darell Issa targeted the IRS or the GAO? These two are among the most efficient agencies in the US Government.
I gotta give it to Issa, he knows his marks. Now ask yourself how bad is the abuse with contractors, Issa's friends, in both DOD (for the record they still have $400.00 toilets, it's called black opps). And let me raise the Department of Homeland Security.
Those two have abuse, graft, corruption, built inefficiencies. Wake me up when Issa goes after those for the same. I could start with the Air Force Command that all it does is transport VIPs. And that is just the top of the iceberg. Or for that matter all the fancy toys TSA uses.
But go on, be outraged over some employees line dancing in a video...cause we all know, nothing like this ever happens somewhere else.
Amazed...really.
If any private sector company got the rate of return on investment the IRS has gotten from those training goofy exercise...there be books written, and stock through the moon
Whatsamatter, Blob? Finding out your party of Unicorns is boning you sideways?
Huh.........
Been that way since the 30's, ingnoramus.
But go on, be outraged over some employees line dancing in a video...cause we all know, nothing like this ever happens somewhere else
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But you're not really outraged are you? It's not a (R) scandal that you can sink your fake choppers into, huh?
Ahhhh,....... just best to let it go, slob.
I am amazed at how easily manipulated people are.
...and you're living proof.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022944510
in both DOD (for the record they still have $400.00 toilets, it's called black opps).
A few months ago, I had a guest bathroom torn out and redone.
I bought the new toilet for $450.
And nutcase nadin uses a $400 toilet as an example of scandal?
As a lifelong renter she has no idea.
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in both DOD (for the record they still have $400.00 toilets, it's called black opps).
Generally, it is a brown op or rarely after a big spinach night a dark green op. A black op is reason to head to the GI doc.
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The oblate bald dwarf is attempting to show non-partisanship. (sp)
We already know where the plumps**** stands, so does the DUmp.
Pathetic.
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I rarely try to understand this heifer, but thought I'd give it a shot.
Just because there is excess in other departments of the Federal government, the waste at the IRS is okay in her brain?
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I rarely try to understand this heifer, but thought I'd give it a shot.
Just because there is excess in other departments of the Federal government, the waste at the IRS is okay in her brain?
You also have to remember that in her mind the IRS is going after what she considers bad guys (the Tea Party) while the DOD is often going after what she considers the good guys (terrorists who hate America).
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Just wait till it's your turn to twist in the wind El Guapo. Then we will she how loud you squeal
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If any private sector company got the rate of return on investment the IRS has gotten from those training goofy exercise...there be books written, and stock through the moon
Only a DUmmy would consider mandatory taxes a "return on investment".
Idiots and fools, all of them.
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The whole $400 toilet debacle was really an accounting artifact of the way the spares part of aircraft acquisition programs worked, same with the hammers, etc.; it had been set up the way it was because the DOD felt it might be nice if an aircraft company was still in business when they wanted to buy newer planes fifteen years down the road, a decade and half after the production line for the current fleet had shut down with all planes delivered and no military aircraft production in the meantime. Unfortunately, the rationale for this was too complicated for demagogues like Proxmire or idiots like Nads to understand.
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The nutcase, for some unfathomable reason, has started a kerfunkle.
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Only a DUmmy would consider mandatory taxes a "return on investment".
Idiots and fools, all of them.
Yeah, just imagine if Exxon, or General Electric, or Monsanto, or your neighbor had the right to come to your house and demand money of you, and that if you didn't comply forthwith they could confiscated it forcefully and toss you in jail. I'm sure they could manage an incredible "ROI" as well.
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Uh, nads? I work at a place where Safety Related 1E materials cost about 10 times what the same non-safety related component costs.
The difference? Paperwork. Traceability.
Now back to your "good rig" you addled scrunt.
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Yeah, just imagine if Exxon, or General Electric, or Monsanto, or your neighbor had the right to come to your house and demand money of you, and that if you didn't comply forthwith they could confiscated it forcefully and toss you in jail. I'm sure they could manage an incredible "ROI" as well.
Used car salesmen and repair garages come to mind.
Once in a while the state cops set up a sting, bring in a car in perfect condition complaining of some non existant problem. The garage or dealership will now tell you ,you need a new what ever and bill the person for a new one when the old part has just been removed and cleaned up.
This is how some government contractors do their own thing. They will buy seconds when ever they can to replace old stuff, and if some parts just need cleaning and will replace them for the cost of new ones.
Bids on repairs get quite nasty, an old boss of mine would bring the bid down to get the job of rebuilding water tight doors and then pop up with a problem, we need more money to fix defective handles. We had big 55 gallon drums filled with degrease stuff, take a door break it up and anything that could be salvaged went into the buckets including the small cotter pins.
My job was to be in charge of his warehouse. I would be told that ship was coming in for repairs to their doors hatches and scuttles. The number of the different items and then had to bag up the material to repair them., and deliver them to the ship for a gang of temp workers to repair and repaint them.
My Boss a retired Navy officer with a lot of friends seemed to know somehow when any ship was coming in for repairs. I would find myself down at the ship yard putting in a bid 2 days before it was posted.
First thing I needed to know, how many dogs on each door and went in search from the barrels for used parts that were squeaky clean. The nuts that were Farris were no good but the stainless ones unless the ship was 50 years old were usually in good shape after cleaning. Conrad collars were brass and could be salvaged.
Mean while the handle assemblies were taken apart and the large spring inside checked to see if it was reusable.
Came the time we got heavy into Asbestos removal that I accidental found out how the Boss worked it, AB has to be triple bagged. The cost of disposal is in the government bid. Unfortunately when I found out how the AB was disposed------I quit on the spot, I did not want to go to federal prison as any part of this.------30 years ago and to this day I expect someone to come a knocking on my door to ask questions. What the heck I am now a crazy old Aunt kept locked in the attic, it is easy to conveniently forget stuff from back then.
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At the thread, this DUmmie with the unpronouncable name pipes up again:
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:45 PM
abelenkpe (7,157 posts)
147. Agreed
Posted the same thing recently and was told to shove it where the sun doesn't shine by other DUers who frequently side with libertarian and tea party talking points. It's depressing when liberals buy into popular outrage pushed by the right.
He's really butt-hurt, so to speak, at Cali telling him to shove it up his ass. :lmao: He's been mentioning it in every thread.
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abelenkpe (7,157 posts)
147. Agreed
Posted the same thing recently and was told to shove it where the sun doesn't shine by other DUers who frequently side with libertarian and tea party talking points.
IOW: Proglodytes are content with corruption, waste and abuse because admitting as much validates every indictment of the opposition.
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Principle
You Proglodytes need to stop lecturing us about how pure and incorruptible you're supposed to be. You're crooks, liars and thieves and now everyone knows it.
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Just wait till it's your turn to twist in the wind El Guapo. Then we will she how loud you squeal
That presumes a rope strong enough to hold her - even then it would take a hurricane to have enough energy to make her twist around.
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I'm just trying to get over the shock of nadin being amazed by something.
It's the first thing she didn't already know.
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Oh my. A Nads/Skittles kerflunkle.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #119)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:17 PM
Star Member Skittles (86,624 posts)
134. how about if we go after ALL waste and abuse
these bullshit JUNKETS have to STOP
Response to Skittles (Reply #134)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:19 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,892 posts)
135. Let's privatize the government
I see te private sector is far more efficient, from your posts on this matter.
Perhaps you should bother reading beyond the CNN, outrage producing, their intent mind you, headline.
Here you go
Page 16
“The Deputy Commissioner, SB/SE Division, stayed five nights in a two-bedroom Presidential Suite at the Hilton. The IRS paid the standard per diem rate of $135 per night for the room which would have normally cost guests $1,499 per night during a four night stay.â€
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/06/04/tigta.irs.pdf
So, yes, it was a $1500 room. But the IRS only paid $135!
Awesome find, dkf! This absolutely blows the lid off the GOP bullshit and makes the IRS look like the greatest stewards of money the taxpayer could ever find!
I almost stopped at page 1 when I saw the total cost $4.1M and number of attendees 2,609. Divide one by the other, you have roughly $1500. So I was guessing they took the week long $1500 per attendee cost and called it the room price. Which would have been bullshit in and of itself. I am so glad I continued to page 16 where it lays out in crystal clear black and white and the "$1500 per night" claim is such a bald-faced lie.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #135)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:24 PM
Star Member Skittles (86,624 posts)
138. aw GEEEEE there's no OTHER possible solution!!!
GROW UP!!!
Response to Skittles (Reply #138)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:25 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,892 posts)
139. You grow up, this is a made up scandal
Period, full stop, end of discussion.
For the record, Darell Issa thanks you.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #139)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:27 PM
Star Member Skittles (86,624 posts)
140. LOLOL
take your ball and LEAVE!
Response to Skittles (Reply #140)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:29 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,892 posts)
142. Did you bother reading the material given to you
From the internal report?
Of course not.
You are the one acting up, have a good day. I suggest the ignore button if you want to avoid the truth in this case, or at the very least trash thread.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #142)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:35 PM
Star Member Skittles (86,624 posts)
144. YES
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it's doesn't ****ing excuse ANYTHING
let me tell you what it is like in the real world - I'm in IT - as you can imagine I am CONSTANTLY TRAINING - I do it with ONLINE CLASSES - WHILE I AM WORKING - no HOTEL ROOMS!!!!
Response to Skittles (Reply #144)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 08:44 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,892 posts)
146. That's nice
Apply to one of em cushy jobs, the ones with no pay increase in three years and now mandatory furloughs. I am really gonna play this for ya.
<violin playing smilie>
Sorry if your own issues blind you to the reality of a fracking manufactured scandal
Response to ieoeja (Reply #166)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:14 PM
Star Member Skittles (86,624 posts)
176. self delete
Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:17 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
not worth it
If that's what a Skittles' often threatened ass kicking looks like, it was pretty lame.
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If that's what a Skittles' often threatened ass kicking looks like, it was pretty lame.
Of their various in-jokes I find the ass-kicking threat from Skittles to be the most naff, unimaginative, and boringly predictable.