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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Skul on June 04, 2013, 05:32:48 PM
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Kind of expected this to happen.
I had wandered over looking for other topics, and this one really took off.
Seems there are numerous OP's whining about poor rumpranger manning. (poor little lad)
This is a run down of just the first page.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2944450
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022945711
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022946211
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2945671 <--- this one called him out.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022946353
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2943784
Shows the true character of the DUmp.
There was of course, one that whined about Zimmerman.
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I was remiss in not mentioning that every OP, except one, considered that POS a big hero for divulging secret, top secret comms.
Poor little Bradley will always be a catcher, never a pitcher, with perhaps short-stop, thrown in.
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In the first link, Manning looks so freakin gay...you think he would be thankful for life in prison.
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In the first link, Manning looks so freakin gay...you think he would be thankful for life in prison.
I hope they ride him like a rented mule.
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In the first link listed, Sid dropped a little bomb.
Response to Octafish (Original post)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 10:55 AM
Star Member SidDithers (27,337 posts)
1. Manning isn't a whistleblower...
he stole hundreds of thousands of documents, and released them to Wikileaks without knowing what was in them.
That's not whistleblowing. That's a data dump.
Sid
He was immediately pounced upon for this transgression.
In the discussion thread: Officers of the United States Government should be on trial -- not PFC Bradley Manning. [View all]
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 11:02 AM
Octafish (33,626 posts)
3. Really? That's a most, eh, conservative take on it.
Here's how Democrats -- the liberals socialists of my world -- see it:
Bradley Manning Trial: After 3 Years, Army Whistleblower Begins Court-Martial Shrouded in Secrecy
Amy Goodman
DemocracyNow.org, June 3, 2013
More than three years after he was arrested, Army whistleblower Bradley Manning goes on trial today accused of being behind the biggest leak of classified information in U.S. history. Manning faces life in prison for disclosing a trove of U.S. cables and government documents to the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks. On Saturday, hundreds of Manning supporters rallied outside the barracks at Fort Meade, Maryland, where the trial will be held. We’re joined by two guests: Firedoglake reporter Kevin Gosztola, who is at Ft. Meade covering the trial, and attorney Chase Madar, author of "The Passion of Bradley Manning."
SNIP...
AMY GOODMAN: Today marks the first day of the military trial of Private Bradley Manning, accused of disclosing a trove of U.S. cables and government documents to the whistleblowing website WikiLeaks in the largest leak of state secrets in U.S. history. Bradley Manning is 25 years old. He has already pled guilty to misusing classified material he felt, quote, "should become public," but has denied the top charge of aiding the enemy. For much of the last three years since his arrest, Bradley Manning has been kept in harsh military detention, including many months in solitary confinement, prompting the U.N.’s top torture expert to criticize the U.S. for "cruel and degrading" treatment. He could face life in prison, possibly the death penalty.
On Saturday, hundreds of protesters gathered outside the barracks in Fort Meade, Maryland, where the trial will be held, to show their support for Manning. Protesters included Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg.
DANIEL ELLSBERG: Bradley was an extraordinary American who went on record and acted on his awareness that it was wrong for us to be killing foreigners. He was not doing it only for American citizens, although—I’ll come back to that in a moment—I think he saved American lives, but he was concerned that the people of the world should be informed of the way, as he put it, the First World, or the West, he said, treats the Third World. And, of course, these Europeans are not in the Third World, but they do have an interest in the fact that America has been asking for—acting for a long time, and above all, in the last decade, as if the lives of foreigners meant nothing.
CONTINUED...
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/3/bradley_manning_trial_after_3_years
Almost forgot: Do you have a link or source for where democrats or liberals call what Manning did a "data dump," siddithers?
Sid, did, whiner took exception to it, and continued to pull standard regressive bs talking points.
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I have no words. These people are beyond comprehension.
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Black boxing this thing it looks like teh fagots should never be allowed into any sensitive position in national security.
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Another one popped up.
They sure do love the America haters.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022946781
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 07:32 PM
Star Member WillyT (45,782 posts)
" If Manning Is An Enemy Of The State Then So Too Is Truth." - GuardianUK
Hypocrisy lies at the heart of the trial of Bradley Manning
It is an outrage that soldiers who killed innocents remain free but the man who exposed them is accused of 'aiding the enemy'
Gary Younge - The Guardian
Sunday 2 June 2013 14.34 EDT
>snippage<
Just what we need, eurotrash telling us how bad we are.
Of course, there is the blame Bush series.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 07:43 PM
Star Member sabrina 1 (34,285 posts)
2. Imagine if the real criminals were on trial, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al, the different
reactions this country would be getting from around the world. How sad that we let war criminals, responsible for the deaths and torture of untold numbers of innocent people, walk free, with assurances that they will never be prosecuted, while someone who saw the crimes and tried to stop them, is the one on trial.
This country's credibility everywhere would have soared had we done the right thing. Not to mention that putting the war criminals on trial would have done more to ensure our safety than all the drone killings and torture we engage in which is only fueling the anger we claim we are trying to end.
Great article. Seems not too many people other the supporters of that illegal war, are supportive of the prosecution of Manning.
They never seem to be able to verify a specific crime, can they?
Stupid, stupid, scrunt.
There weren't any, bayotch, that's why. Idiot.
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Manning is a traitor, and he is going to suffer the consequences as he should. Sorry, Manny!!
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Octafish (33,626 posts)
3. Really? That's a most, eh, conservative take on it.
Here's how Democrats -- the liberals socialists of my world
I cherish the moment when I will spit on your charred carcus. I only hope I am the one doing the charring. :bird: :bird: :bird: :bird:
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Another one popped up.
They sure do love the America haters.
Unless it's their precious Lightbringer.
The turd.
They never seem to be able to verify a specific crime, can they?
There are none. If they could specify one, their precious Bathhouse Barry would be perp walked right along.
Lying ph**kers.
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Manning is a traitor, and he is going to suffer the consequences as he should. Sorry, Manny!!
:lol:
He won't either. The isn't a courts martial on this planet with sufficient testicular fortitude remaining to hang this turd burglar by his scrawny little neck until dead.
Instead, he's going to spend the rest of his natural life in an 8x10 cell playing hide the snausage to his sick little heart's content.
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In the first link, Manning looks so freakin gay...you think he would be thankful for life in prison.
He could corner the cigarette market at Leavenworth in a week.
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Instead, he's going to spend the rest of his natural life in an 8x10 cell playing hide the snausage to his sick little heart's content.
As he leaves office, the Kenyan will give Manning a pardon.
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As he leaves office, the Kenyan will give Manning a pardon.
I wouldn't bet on it. Once you are no longer of use to The Holy WON of Shitcago, he doesn't take kindly to climbing out from under the bus whence you've been thrown.
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Hey, DUmpmonkeez, we know you are reading this thread. PFC Manning was exactly the sort of POS that you rail about in the Army. He wasn't/isn't gay because he doesn't like women, he's gay because he hates women. He was a PFC because he had already assaulted a female soldier once. The way I heard it, PFC Manning had a second assault pending against and they hadn't decided what to do with it. His platoon leader was a female and he assaulted her after she gave him an order.
Then there's the little fact that he never did anything because he wanted to be a hero or saint of open government. He is no noble soul. He downloaded all of that information without looking at any of it because he was having a fit of pique. He was upset because he felt that his chain of command wasn't listening to his suggestions on how to run things. Apparently PFC Manning thought he knew how to run things better than Generals and Colonels that had more experience. When they ignored their soon to be PVT PFC, he decided to commit his crimes.
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I have no words. These people are beyond comprehension.
The DUmmies want to give him a medal and treat him like a hero.
I want to give him metal...as in a firing squad...and treat him like the traitor he actually is.
It's disgusting beyond words that the Dummies and their elite brethren in Hollywood are supporting this cretin.
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Hey, DUmpmonkeez, we know you are reading this thread. PFC Manning was exactly the sort of POS that you rail about in the Army. He wasn't/isn't gay because he doesn't like women, he's gay because he hates women. He was a PFC because he had already assaulted a female soldier once. The way I heard it, PFC Manning had a second assault pending against and they hadn't decided what to do with it. His platoon leader was a female and he assaulted her after she gave him an order.
Then there's the little fact that he never did anything because he wanted to be a hero or saint of open government. He is no noble soul. He downloaded all of that information without looking at any of it because he was having a fit of pique. He was upset because he felt that his chain of command wasn't listening to his suggestions on how to run things. Apparently PFC Manning thought he knew how to run things better than Generals and Colonels that had more experience. When they ignored their soon to be PVT PFC, he decided to commit his crimes.
Let's not forget too that he was upset that he had to do things like...mop the TOC *gasp* and work the third shift because he was just a lowly PFC. Because you know whining emo PFC types DESERVE to work first shift...third shift is for Specialists and Sergeants. :whatever:
bin Laden read the stuff he stole...the Taliban in Afghanistan read the documents he stole and used them to go after people working with us to rid the country of insurgents.
This little traitor has blood on his hands and they can't bury him far enough under Leavenworth for my satisfaction. As for you DUmmies treating this kid like a hero...you deserve to be tossed int he same hole the put Manning in.
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Hey, DUmpmonkeez, we know you are reading this thread. PFC Manning was exactly the sort of POS that you rail about in the Army. He wasn't/isn't gay because he doesn't like women, he's gay because he hates women. He was a PFC because he had already assaulted a female soldier once. The way I heard it, PFC Manning had a second assault pending against and they hadn't decided what to do with it. His platoon leader was a female and he assaulted her after she gave him an order.
Then there's the little fact that he never did anything because he wanted to be a hero or saint of open government. He is no noble soul. He downloaded all of that information without looking at any of it because he was having a fit of pique. He was upset because he felt that his chain of command wasn't listening to his suggestions on how to run things. Apparently PFC Manning thought he knew how to run things better than Generals and Colonels that had more experience. When they ignored their soon to be PVT PFC, he decided to commit his crimes.
I didn't know about the assaults. I had heard that the reason why he had his 'fit of pique' was that his 'pitcher' had left him (his alter ego "Breanna" was mad).
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For the lurking DUmmies, whom I know will read this- Big Dog's dose of truth:
You accused the Army and Marine Corps of "torturing" Manning, by keeping him in segregation while awaiting court martial. Think about this: he would not have lasted a day with the other prisoners. Your precious would have been raped and gutted like a fish, have no doubt about that.
You and your fellow Proglodytes tried to elevate him to be some kind of political prisoner, a homosexual Mumia/Leonard Peltier. You did the little bastard no favors, because he has to face military justice like a big boy. His defense of "yabut, yabut, yabut, I'm a political prisoner!" won't work. He will die in military prison, probably by suicide, and the only reason he will not face a firing squad is that Congress didn't declare war against Iraq.
You demonize the press for reporting the truth to the American people as the secret crimes of your King Hussein and his henchmen come to light, while you hoist Manning on your shoulders for passing classified information to America's enemies. I have no illusions that you are capable of honest introspection, but your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed- and that is the reason we are here: to observe and report. We don't follow Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Breitbart, or Malkin- we provide them with intel and analysis about you. We lead, they follow.
Think about that.
**** you very much.
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
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For the lurking DUmmies, whom I know will read this- Big Dog's dose of truth:
You accused the Army and Marine Corps of "torturing" Manning, by keeping him in segregation while awaiting court martial. Think about this: he would not have lasted a day with the other prisoners. Your precious would have been raped and gutted like a fish, have no doubt about that.
You and your fellow Proglodytes tried to elevate him to be some kind of political prisoner, a homosexual Mumia/Leonard Peltier. You did the little bastard no favors, because he has to face military justice like a big boy. His defense of "yabut, yabut, yabut, I'm a political prisoner!" won't work. He will die in military prison, probably by suicide, and the only reason he will not face a firing squad is that Congress didn't declare war against Iraq.
You demonize the press for reporting the truth to the American people as the secret crimes of your King Hussein and his henchmen come to light, while you hoist Manning on your shoulders for passing classified information to America's enemies. I have no illusions that you are capable of honest introspection, but your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed- and that is the reason we are here: to observe and report. We don't follow Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Breitbart, or Malkin- we provide them with intel and analysis about you. We lead, they follow.
Think about that.
**** you very much.
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
:clap:
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I read all about that piece of shit, Manning, and I am astounded that he was even allowed to remain in the military. There were so many instances of where he should have been kicked out, lost his clearance, etc.
Why are they so behind a piece of shit that punched a woman?
He was a piece of shit mental case that hit women. Why are they defending him? :rant:
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For the lurking DUmmies, whom I know will read this- Big Dog's dose of truth:
You accused the Army and Marine Corps of "torturing" Manning, by keeping him in segregation while awaiting court martial. Think about this: he would not have lasted a day with the other prisoners. Your precious would have been raped and gutted like a fish, have no doubt about that.
You and your fellow Proglodytes tried to elevate him to be some kind of political prisoner, a homosexual Mumia/Leonard Peltier. You did the little bastard no favors, because he has to face military justice like a big boy. His defense of "yabut, yabut, yabut, I'm a political prisoner!" won't work. He will die in military prison, probably by suicide, and the only reason he will not face a firing squad is that Congress didn't declare war against Iraq.
You demonize the press for reporting the truth to the American people as the secret crimes of your King Hussein and his henchmen come to light, while you hoist Manning on your shoulders for passing classified information to America's enemies. I have no illusions that you are capable of honest introspection, but your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed- and that is the reason we are here: to observe and report. We don't follow Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Breitbart, or Malkin- we provide them with intel and analysis about you. We lead, they follow.
Think about that.
**** you very much.
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
AMEN Brother, H5 :clap:
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For the lurking DUmmies, whom I know will read this- Big Dog's dose of truth:
You accused the Army and Marine Corps of "torturing" Manning, by keeping him in segregation while awaiting court martial. Think about this: he would not have lasted a day with the other prisoners. Your precious would have been raped and gutted like a fish, have no doubt about that.
You and your fellow Proglodytes tried to elevate him to be some kind of political prisoner, a homosexual Mumia/Leonard Peltier. You did the little bastard no favors, because he has to face military justice like a big boy. His defense of "yabut, yabut, yabut, I'm a political prisoner!" won't work. He will die in military prison, probably by suicide, and the only reason he will not face a firing squad is that Congress didn't declare war against Iraq.
You demonize the press for reporting the truth to the American people as the secret crimes of your King Hussein and his henchmen come to light, while you hoist Manning on your shoulders for passing classified information to America's enemies. I have no illusions that you are capable of honest introspection, but your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed- and that is the reason we are here: to observe and report. We don't follow Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Breitbart, or Malkin- we provide them with intel and analysis about you. We lead, they follow.
Think about that.
**** you very much.
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
H^5 :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I read all about that piece of shit, Manning, and I am astounded that he was even allowed to remain in the military. There were so many instances of where he should have been kicked out, lost his clearance, etc.
Why are they so behind a piece of shit that punched a woman?
He was a piece of shit mental case that hit women. Why are they defending him? :rant:
Because he claims to be one of the protected classes of the DUmp; he claims to be teh Ghey. Therefore, nothing he did was wrong in their eyes, he is merely a homosexual being oppressed by the 'man'. Regardless of his work history, Punched a woman, etc. they will defend him to the death. I just don't understand how they can so easily let treason slide. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Their unexamined adulation of this vile worm is so tedious. And for all of their squawking, it made not the slightest difference. DUmmies, you are utterly impotent.
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So if he had been a Republican PVT would they be all over him for treason?
Stupid question: YES! :thatsright:
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Of Course Gina, If he had been a straight, white male of conservative values, they would have been the first ones to say that he needed to be put in front of a firing squad. But, surprise surprise, he wasn't. So they have to make a saint and a martyr out of him to justify their little egos, and the consequences to the country be damned. If he is acquited, then it will be very apparent that the legal system is broken, and our country is totally beyond repair. :banghead:
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Because he claims to be one of the protected classes of the DUmp; he claims to be teh Ghey. Therefore, nothing he did was wrong in their eyes, he is merely a homosexual being oppressed by the 'man'. Regardless of his work history, Punched a woman, etc. they will defend him to the death. I just don't understand how they can so easily let treason slide. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Remember to Progressive liberals, the truth is incorrect.
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For the lurking DUmmies, whom I know will read this- Big Dog's dose of truth:
You accused the Army and Marine Corps of "torturing" Manning, by keeping him in segregation while awaiting court martial. Think about this: he would not have lasted a day with the other prisoners. Your precious would have been raped and gutted like a fish, have no doubt about that.
You and your fellow Proglodytes tried to elevate him to be some kind of political prisoner, a homosexual Mumia/Leonard Peltier. You did the little bastard no favors, because he has to face military justice like a big boy. His defense of "yabut, yabut, yabut, I'm a political prisoner!" won't work. He will die in military prison, probably by suicide, and the only reason he will not face a firing squad is that Congress didn't declare war against Iraq.
You demonize the press for reporting the truth to the American people as the secret crimes of your King Hussein and his henchmen come to light, while you hoist Manning on your shoulders for passing classified information to America's enemies. I have no illusions that you are capable of honest introspection, but your hypocrisy does not go unnoticed- and that is the reason we are here: to observe and report. We don't follow Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Breitbart, or Malkin- we provide them with intel and analysis about you. We lead, they follow.
Think about that.
**** you very much.
:bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
:clap: :clap: :clap:
:bow: :bow: :bow:
I'll be back in an hour or so to give you another H5 for that one.
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Octafish (33,629 posts)
41. It depends on whether you want to live in a democracy or not.
When matters of war and peace are decided in secret, then it's not a democracy.
Yes. You just read that, people. To this ****tard, we should have published our intent to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the public before they happened. Since we didn't, it wasn't "democratic". Yeah, no negative repercussions there. I'm sure Colonel Tibbets wouldn't have minded at all if the Japs had warning that he was about to fly there. :whatever:
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Remember to Progressive liberals, the truth is incorrect.
Sad but true,sad but true...
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Octafish (33,629 posts)
41. It depends on whether you want to live in a democracy or not.
When matters of war and peace are decided in secret, then it's not a democracy.
We don't have a Democracy, Dumb, Dumb.
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When matters of war and peace are decided in secret, then it's not a democracy.
Remember when FDR published every detail of the D-Day landings in the NYT to gauge public opinion?
Yeah, I thought so.
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Remember when FDR published every detail of the D-Day landings in the NYT to gauge public opinion?
Yeah, I thought so.
:rotf: I lurve you bunnyboy :rotf:
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I'm reminded of those hilarious press conferences when the the reportertards would ask General Schwarzkopf over and over about the date he expected to start the ground war in Iraq and what invasion routes he would use.