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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on June 03, 2013, 01:42:01 PM
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Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:35 PM
CountAllVotes (11,878 posts)
Eighth tour in Afghanistan
I just found out the other day that my cousin (well sort of my cousin ... a whole other story within itself) is about to begin his eighth tour in Afghanistan.
His new wife just had his child and he was home for a short time and off he went for another "tour".
I suppose he must be re-enlisting as he began his military "career" (that is what this seems to be turning into) in 2008.
I'm very sad to learn of this and I figured he'd be so sick of the U.S. Army after his initial enlistment time was up that he'd be running as far and as fast as he could from them, but no, this is not the case obviously.
I don't know a whole lot about my cousin but damn, what a hell, EIGHT tours?
How many of these "tours" can a person go on anyway?
Sad and disgusted all at once, and gee, I thought we were going to get out of that damned place and get out of it sooner rather than later! And what will we have left of my cousin when and if he returns? I hate thinking about it really.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022936244
Eight tours in Afghanistan since 2008.
Response to CountAllVotes (Original post)
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 03:45 PM
AnalystInParadise (86 posts)
4. What branch
Unless Air Force or Special Ops someone is pulling your chain. Even with Air Force and 120 rotations that is just about impossible. I have 5 to Iraq in the nearly 9 years we were there, that is a fairly common number. Might have one to Afghanistan before this year as over, but that would be voluntary as a civilian. I am extremely curious what this person does in the military, branch and job. Because if it is Army Combat Arms or Marine Combat Arms there is no way someone has done eight tours in under five years.
Response to AnalystInParadise (Reply #4)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 12:56 PM
CountAllVotes (11,878 posts)
6. Special Ops
Yes, I think that is what he is in, the Seals or something I was told. *sigh*
Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket.
He's in the U.S. Army Seals. The Tom Wright/DUmoTex Division.
But, in case someone forgot, it's still all about nadin:
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:51 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,793 posts)
2. That is what I was thinking. Hubby did nine pacs
In a 21 year navy carrer, his last two, longer wartime pacs (one started before 911, so it became a wartime patrol)
In a humorous twist, when they got the message, we are at war, you are cleared to shoot, but we have no idea who the enemy is.
He tells the story better
A nuclear submarine was cleared to shoot.
I missed reading the news that day.
Glad they didn't fire.
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Bucks--yeah, I did the math too.
And he's "Army Seals?" Who ****in knew?
Nads, finally, you're a ****ing idiot. Your QM hubby never saw that, it never happened, etc. I've been around during a "shooting war" on a boat and nothing of the sort ever happens.
EVER.
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"Sarge, I know I just got back from a tour in the middle east, but you gotta help me get back over there right away.....my moonbat family is driving me crazy."
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Poor DUmmie is pissed that this supposed family member doesn't hate the military as much as he does. And has actually decided to turn it into a career.
:whatever:
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Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:51 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,793 posts)
2. That is what I was thinking. Hubby did nine pacs
In a 21 year navy carrer, his last two, longer wartime pacs (one started before 911, so it became a wartime patrol)
In a humorous twist, when they got the message, we are at war, you are cleared to shoot, but we have no idea who the enemy is.
He tells the story better
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG81ptfPz7I[/youtube]
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9 tours? Special Ops? Does the OP have even the tiniest clue?
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It takes a special drug deal for the Army to send you into a combat tour for anything except a year. Other services have different rules, which have changed over time to boot, but unless he's going there for TDYs of a month or two and the DUmmie calls that a 'Tour,' it's BS of the first order.
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DUches will never miss an opportunity to prove their ignorance....and feel great about it.
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Bucks--yeah, I did the math too.
And he's "Army Seals?" Who ****in knew?
Nads, finally, you're a ****ing idiot. Your QM hubby never saw that, it never happened, etc. I've been around during a "shooting war" on a boat and nothing of the sort ever happens.
EVER.
Don't forget that TiTboy was a Seal in the Green Berets.
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Don't forget that TiTboy was a Seal in the Green Berets.
And he was a river boat pilot who pulled temporary duty guarding nuclear weapons on an aircraft carrier.
All before he was 20 years old.
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OP is full of shit. He's just making it up.
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OP is full of shit. He's just making it up.
Ya think. :wink:
(http://www.jumpdates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/light-bulb-head.jpg)
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9 tours? Special Ops? Does the OP have even the tiniest clue?
Um/// No.
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And he was a river boat pilot who pulled temporary duty guarding nuclear weapons on an aircraft carrier.
All before he was 20 years old.
His cousin is TiT reincarnated. :rotf:
The rest of the OP yarn is pure bullshit.
The quality of the "bouncy" is really at a historical all time low. :mad:
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Don't forget that TiTboy was a Seal in the Green Berets.
I thought he was a Ranger in the Green Beret ParaRescue Marine Recon SEAL teams?
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Billy Ray Valentine.
Cop #2: What unit were you in?
Billy Ray: Uh, I was with the Green Beret. Special Unit Battalions, Commando Airborne Tactics, Specialist Tactics, Unit Battalion. It was real hush hush. I was Agent Orange. That was my name. Agent Orange. Agent Orange, that was me.
As Billy Ray kneels on his roller board, working his hustle on the cops, they look at each other, smiling.
http://www.hark.com/clips/zqxwhvdkjq-i-was-agent-orange-that-was-my-name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtjBqJ4NxA
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9 tours? Special Ops? Does the OP have even the tiniest clue?
Op couldn't acquire a clue if s/h/it were to strip itself nekkid, smear itself with pure clue musk, and dance the clue mating dance in a secluded field full of horny clues at the peak of clue mating season.
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I thought he was a Ranger in the Green Beret ParaRescue Marine Recon SEAL teams?
No, that was nadin's old outfit in Mexico.
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A question, cus i honestly don't know, but how long is a tour and is it different time lengths for each branch, or assignment?
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A question, cus i honestly don't know, but how long is a tour and is it different time lengths for each branch, or assignment?
Varies by branch.
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Look you DUCHE, unless this 'cousin' of yours is in CAPOC, SOCOM or JSOC if 'he' is even in the Army, he isn't doing TDY rotations. And 8 9-12 month rotations since since 2008 must be some of that 'new math' you were taught in your proglydyte schools. You have no clue, and at no time during your rambling attempt at a bouncy did you ever make any kind of sense. I award you no bongs, and may God have mercy on your soul. :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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"Sarge, I know I just got back from a tour in the middle east, but you gotta help me get back over there right away.....my moonbat family is driving me crazy."
Lemme guess--Casey Sheehan, right?
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Varies by branch.
Yep. For almost the whole GWOT, if you were in the Army (Other than Medical Corps) you had to practically blow somebody to get anything but a one-year tour if you went with a unit, though there were some exceptions to fill shortages or losses (In the personnel sense, not necessarily casualties) in units already in sector, or as augmentation for changing requirements in deployed units. Medical units were one of the few exceptions, they churned a lot of docs and nurses through on 90-day orders to spread the experience around. The Marines started out with (Mostly) doing six months, then I think nine months, not sure but I think in recent years they're pretty much on the same calendar as the Army. The Navy and Air Force are all over the map depending on unit mission but a lot of them seem to have been on three, four, or six-month trips when I was last there. For anything that actually involves working with the locals on any serious long-term goal, tours less than a year do kinda render continuity impossible.
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Thankypu gentlemen! So it would have been possible for someone to do 8 tours, if they were 90 days deployments each
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Thankypu gentlemen! So it would have been possible for someone to do 8 tours, if they were 90 days deployments each
If they were a trauma surgeon or the most hard-luck medium truck driver in the entire Air Force, yes.
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If they were a trauma surgeon or the most hard-luck medium truck driver in the entire Air Force, yes.
ok so length of tours depends on service, position/and or rank.
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ok so length of tours depends on service, position/and or rank.
Yeah...service and job are the big determinants.
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Star Member CountAllVotes (11,893 posts)
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Ooooops!
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KC
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Ooooops!
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KC
Here's the GCW post prior to the self-delete. :rotf:
Response to bike man (Reply #23)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 07:39 PM
Star Member CountAllVotes (11,893 posts)
24. I told you, I do not know
I am not close to this part of my "family" at all. I have not seen my other cousins in almost 50 years now and I cannot tell you a whole lot about any which one of them and no, there are not many of them.
Gimme a break would you? Not for liars, DUmbass.
I consider myself fortunate to have managed to retain contact with this lady as she is a "foster aunt". Sometimes you just don't "ask" certain questions from certain types of people, esp. from the WWII generation, and yes, my "aunt" is one of them.
She becomes irritate and angry at times which is nothing new with her but it is a trait that is becoming worse as she ages. She is now in her late 80s and the last thing I care to do is upset her in any way; I just listen, that is about all I can do for her right now.
I know she speaks the truth as I've been hearing about this since he enlisted in 2008 much to my dismay. He greatly favors my foster granduncle greatly who was a fine man indeed. It saddens me greatly. Any more questions? We have many. Stop by and explain.
Even the primitives didn't offer a bong.
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The lies get worse by the post.
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Eight tours in Afghanistan since 2008.
Uh huh........ :whatever:
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 02:51 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,793 posts)
2. That is what I was thinking. Hubby did nine pacs
In a 21 year navy carrer, his last two, longer wartime pacs (one started before 911, so it became a wartime patrol)
In a humorous twist, when they got the message, we are at war, you are cleared to shoot, but we have no idea who the enemy is.
He tells the story better
I certainly hope so, Blob. What a phucking no-mind.
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A question, cus i honestly don't know, but how long is a tour and is it different time lengths for each branch, or assignment?
Varies by branch.
Absolutely. It's a deployment, not a standard tour at some installation on PCS orders. Could be a month or two or, it could be a year. Units are rotated into a combat zone, not individuals anymore, like Vietnam. The Repo Depots went out (thankfully) a long, long time ago. The end date of a unit deployment is generally at the discretion of the theater commander (I think :-) ).
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Absolutely. It's a deployment, not a standard tour at some installation on PCS orders. Could be a month or two or, it could be a year. Units are rotated into a combat zone, not individuals anymore, like Vietnam. The Repo Depots went out (thankfully) a long, long time ago. The end date of a unit deployment is generally at the discretion of the theater commander (I think :-) ).
Our tour lengths are set IIRC by Big Army. The whole "not to exceed XXX days".
When I got sent to Iraq in 2003 we left on six month deployment orders...which got extended to 12 months. At one point during the surge units were there for 15 months. Afghanistan was 12 months though the Army has cut tours back to 9 to save money on sending people home on mid tour leave.
Marines have been 7 month tours for both combat zones since the beginning....the Zoomies do 6 months and who knows what the navy does out there at sea :-) But I believe their Sea Bees and Docs do 6 month tours.
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No, that was nadin's old outfit in Mexico.
:lol:
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Our tour lengths are set IIRC by Big Army. The whole "not to exceed XXX days".
When I got sent to Iraq in 2003 we left on six month deployment orders...which got extended to 12 months. At one point during the surge units were there for 15 months. Afghanistan was 12 months though the Army has cut tours back to 9 to save money on sending people home on mid tour leave.
Marines have been 7 month tours for both combat zones since the beginning....the Zoomies do 6 months and who knows what the navy does out there at sea :-) But I believe their Sea Bees and Docs do 6 month tours.
My first deployment in 2005 was SUPPOSED to be 12 months, but about a week before going home, we got extension orders for 90-120 days (172nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, for the lurking DUmmies that want to question it). Ended up being about 15.5 months. We generally consider ourselves the first unit of the surge.