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Title: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: franksolich on June 01, 2013, 04:40:50 PM
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hedgehog (30,460 posts)    Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:34 PM

Simple ways to handle the heat without air conditioning

I can't tolerate strong sunlight, so i am indoors from 10 Am to at least 3 or 4PM.
 
I had real problems in the heat yesterday because I don't sweat - at all!

Today i remembered one quick fix - a damp bandanna rolled up and tied around my neck.

<<<sweats like a pig every time the temperature gets above a sweltering 60 degrees.

Ugly's the first one to butt in:

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Warpy (69,348 posts)    Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:42 PM

1. I found a great gadget at a crafts fair here years ago

It's a bandana/headband full of water absorbing beads of some description. You soak it and tie it around your head or neck and it keeps you cool as the water evaporates. I wish I knew what the hell they were, I'd go into business making them, myself, since so many people have AC but can't afford to turn it on unless the temperature is in triple digits.
 
Another thing that does a good job is a spray bottle and a fan. You spray into the wind stream and cooled air and a little water hit your skin and cool you down fast.
 
Soaking your head also helps, wet hair cooling you off for a while. I used that a lot back in Boston. It doesn't work as well out here in the desert, stuff dries out too fast.
 
Heavy drapes that are closed in advance of the sun help to keep the house a bit cooler. Living in the dark gets depressing, but it's easier to cope with than living in a 95 degree house.
 
I still haven't set up the cooler here, even though temperatures have been in the low 90s. It's still comfy in the morning and until about 4 PM, only ugly from then until about 8. I suppose I'll have to do it soon, though. I use an evaporative cooler that works really well in an arid climate and adds only about $15 a month to the electric bill.

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Viva_La_Revolution (27,100 posts)    Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:00 PM

3. My Mom was making and selling those in Colorado before she passed away in April.

It would be so cosmically cool if you owned one of hers.

I keep them in the freezer, with extras so you can swap them out as they warm up.

I can dig up the directions if you want.

We use our cool basement air to cool the upstairs by using a hurricane fan to blow it up the stairs, and a small rotating fan at the top to boost it.
 
Wrapping your naked self in a wet sheet or Moo-moo helps too.

<<<actually, doesn't bother wrapping self in anything when sleeping.

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Warpy (69,348 posts)    Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:07 PM

4. I'm in NM, so it's entirely possible

The cloth gave up the ghost years ago, so I remade it using some Japanese fabric left over from a haori jacket I'd made. It's hanging together nicely and is 100% cotton, a rarity these days.
 
There are no basements here, just a crawl space that gets as hot as the house does. When I lived in Dixie, we used attic fans to blow the hot air into the attic and bring cool night air in through the windows. That worked, too, and closing heavy drapes kept the place cool until evening.
 
All I need to know is what those beads are. Once I know what to call them, I can find a supplier. I'm thinking a sleeveless shirt using them might be really nice. Or maybe a ventilated hat.

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Viva_La_Revolution (27,100 posts)   Sat Jun 1, 2013, 03:36 PM

5. craft stores carry them

they're 'water absorbing polymer beads' sold under various name brands, usually used in vases of flowers. The trick is to remember how big they get, don't put too many in each section.

I find they work better when the hit the base of your brain stem, on the neck they sit too low. ohhh, maybe a 'turban' style with a patch at the back of the skull, and a few on the forehead.

Get sewing!

It's starting to heat up here now, so I dug them out of storage to get them hydrated and frozen. thanks for reminding me

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OffWithTheirHeads (9,044 posts)    Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:00 PM

2. Back in my construction days, I would soak a t shirt in water and just put it on wet

as the water evaporates you stay cool as a cuke. Rinse and repeat as necessary.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 01, 2013, 05:31:19 PM
I just press a button and set the thermostat to 71.

Works like magic and you don't have to tie anything wet around your head.

It does tend to get a little chilly in the evening, though.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Chris_ on June 01, 2013, 05:32:37 PM
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Wrapping your naked self in a wet sheet or Moo-moo helps too.
Classy.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Chris_ on June 01, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
Did someone say "air conditioning"?

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Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Skul on June 01, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
The stupid quill-pig ought to just go to a fern bar.
Problem solved.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Evil_Conservative on June 01, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
Suck it up and grow a pair.  Damn.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 01, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Did someone say "air conditioning"?

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I'll bet the people inside that car were two wild and crazy guys.
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Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Undies on June 01, 2013, 05:48:41 PM
I just press a button and set the thermostat to 71.

Works like magic and you don't have to tie anything wet around your head.

It does tend to get a little chilly in the evening, though.

I keep mine at 70.  We have skylights to compete with.

Hey, DUmmy goons-  Another sure fire cooling technique is to put a plunger handle in the freezer for about and hour - take it out and shove it up your evil faggy-loving communist anus opening.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: NHSparky on June 01, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
C'mon, Warpy--it's a dry heat where you're at.  And at that altitude, it cools off fast in the evenings.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Tucker on June 01, 2013, 06:46:17 PM
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Another thing that does a good job is a spray bottle and a fan. You spray into the wind stream and cooled air and a little water hit your skin and cool you down fast.

There's a better way.

Hold the fan up between the spray bottle and your face. Spray the mist through the fan. The motor doesn't overheat this way.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 01, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
Hey, DUmmy goons-  Another sure fire cooling technique is to put a plunger handle in the freezer for about and hour - take it out and shove it up your evil faggy-loving communist anus opening.


Do I want to know how you know this? :runaway: :bolt:

 :tongue: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: ColonelCarrots on June 01, 2013, 07:23:29 PM
I just sit in my room naked. I just have to butter up my chair since it's leather, and I don't want to stick.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Undies on June 01, 2013, 07:26:39 PM
I just sit in my room naked. I just have to butter up my chair since it's leather, and I don't want to stick.

We'll call you Butterballs from now on.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: ColonelCarrots on June 01, 2013, 07:35:40 PM
We'll call you Butterballs from now on.
:rofl: That is great.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: catsmtrods on June 01, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
How about just man up and take it! I work on 180 degree boilers every day. I get back in a van that has no AC and go to the next job. WTF? Pussies!!
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: longview on June 01, 2013, 11:08:27 PM
I work outside (after my regular job) all summer.  It gets over 100 here.  I let myself acclimate to the heat and don't use AC in the house or car.  I think it's good for you.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: diesel driver on June 02, 2013, 06:23:35 AM
It's that damned globull warming!

It's gonna KILL US ALL!!!

[/DUmode]

Surprised none of the DUmbasses said anything about it. 
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Doc Savage on June 02, 2013, 06:27:36 AM
All the public assistance offices have refrigeration.   
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: miskie on June 02, 2013, 06:51:20 AM
Damn Global Warming !

Making the outside all hot during summer months and junk !!1!

How about this novel idea - take a cool bath or shower ?

It washes the salt and dirt off of your skin, allowing you to keep yourself cooler more efficiently. It has the added bonus of making you smell better too.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: diesel driver on June 02, 2013, 06:58:31 AM
Damn Global Warming !

Making the outside all hot during summer months and junk !!1!

How about this novel idea - take a cool bath or shower ?

It washes the salt and dirt off of your skin, allowing you to keep yourself cooler more efficiently. It has the added bonus of making you smell better too.

Apparently, none of these Dumbasses ever rode in a LLV/FFV delivering the mail in the summertime. 

(Some routes that I've worked, I welcomed having to get out and walk a few blocks!)   :lmao:
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: vesta111 on June 02, 2013, 08:24:34 AM
Apparently, none of these Dumbasses ever rode in a LLV/FFV delivering the mail in the summertime. 

(Some routes that I've worked, I welcomed having to get out and walk a few blocks!)   :lmao:

My favorite method at work was to get a worker in the freezer section to bring me a zip lock bag full of ice shavings.  This I would put under my hard hat to melt.

Then there are the medic patches that when thrown on the floor  and stomped on give off a cold for sprains etc.   Wrap one around the neck and hope it lasts an hour or two.

We have no Air at home so I use the thin wraps one gets at the drugstore to bandage whatever, soak them in ice water, freeze and hang them at the top the fans.   Works well when the Temp. climbs into the high 80's to low 90's.   

We Yankees on the coast need Air only about 6 weeks a year, today, it is off and on,  this is not the south where I needed Air every day 6+ months of the year.

Air quality is a big problem worse then the heat.    For the last week we have been alerted to stay indoors from 11 am. to 11 pm for those with anyone respiratory problems, the young and the old.

Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Undies on June 02, 2013, 08:28:42 AM
Do I want to know how you know this? :runaway: :bolt:

 :tongue: :cheersmate:

I read about it on the internet.  :p
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Delmar on June 02, 2013, 09:45:43 AM
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Response to hedgehog (Original post)Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:42 PM
 Warpy (69,370 posts)
1. I found a great gadget at a crafts fair here years ago

It's a bandana/headband full of water absorbing beads of some description. You soak it and tie it around your head or neck and it keeps you cool as the water evaporates. I wish I knew what the hell they were, I'd go into business making them, myself, since so many people have AC but can't afford to turn it on unless the temperature is in triple digits.
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Response to Warpy (Reply #1)Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:00 PM
Viva_La_Revolution (27,100 posts)
3. My Mom was making and selling those in Colorado before she passed away in April.

It would be so cosmically cool if you owned one of hers.
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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #3)Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:07 PM
 Warpy (69,370 posts)
4. I'm in NM, so it's entirely possible

The cloth gave up the ghost years ago, so I remade it using some Japanese fabric left over from a haori jacket I'd made. It's hanging together nicely and is 100% cotton, a rarity these days.

DUmmy Warpy, you can buy Miracool bandanas for less than $2.00 a pop.  There is no need to go to a craft store looking for beads or cutting up a jacket to sew the beads into--You can buy one that is all put together for only $2.00 you buffoon.

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=miracool+bandana+shopping&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: miskie on June 02, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
Apparently, none of these Dumbasses ever rode in a LLV/FFV delivering the mail in the summertime. 

(Some routes that I've worked, I welcomed having to get out and walk a few blocks!)   :lmao:

On hot days, Ill stop at the nearby convenience store and buy a gallon jug of store brand water before heading out.

It will be empty upon my return- And because of the heat, I won't need to use a bathroom anywhere along the route either. I just sweat it all out. I've learned the best thing to do with an LLV is to close the door leading to the back, open both windows all the way up and set the fan so that it blows across the cab. Sure, the mail in the back gets pretty warm, but being the evil fascist rethug that I am, I'm really not that concerned about how comfortable the bills and catalogs are.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 02, 2013, 10:59:25 AM
Thermostats at 71?  :o Talk about some folks who truly need to suck it up.  :-)

78 is the lowest it goes here.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Dori on June 02, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
I don't really need air conditioning here. We have cool onshore flows almost everyday.  But on the very few really hot days we get, I wished I had it.

Those neck scarves really work.  I was at a large swap meet one summer where they hold the Rose Bowl.  It was over a 100 and we were on black asphalt.  I started feeling really wierd and seeing stars, so I knew I was getting sun stroke. That neck thing saved my life.


 
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 02, 2013, 11:43:07 AM
Thermostats at 71?  Talk about some folks who truly need to suck it up. 

78 is the lowest it goes here.

Well, of course, 76-78 is the preferred setting from November until late March.

We're not campers.

Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: RobJohnson on June 02, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
Thermostats at 71?  :o Talk about some folks who truly need to suck it up.  :-)

78 is the lowest it goes here.

Exactly
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: dandi on June 02, 2013, 03:40:47 PM
I love my heat pump. We can run the a/c all day long during the hot Florida summers and the electric bill never seems to get over around $170.

If the winter's cold though, the heater will really use some power, an extra hundred bucks a month or so. There again, it's Florida, so the winters are never too bad.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: diesel driver on June 02, 2013, 04:08:37 PM
On hot days, Ill stop at the nearby convenience store and buy a gallon jug of store brand water before heading out.

It will be empty upon my return- And because of the heat, I won't need to use a bathroom anywhere along the route either. I just sweat it all out. I've learned the best thing to do with an LLV is to close the door leading to the back, open both windows all the way up and set the fan so that it blows across the cab. Sure, the mail in the back gets pretty warm, but being the evil fascist rethug that I am, I'm really not that concerned about how comfortable the bills and catalogs are.


Been there, done that.

When I worked for a delivery company, all our trucks were 14' aluminum bodied Grummons with Chevy 1-ton chassis.  I would carry a 2 gallon water cooler with me all the time.

One very hot day, I was running a route in Charleston, WV, and I thought I had stepped in some chewing gum somewhere, because my right foot was sticking to the metal floor.  Turns out, the sole of my shoe was melting!  I also emptied the 2 gallon cooler, and had to stop for a bag of ice and a gallon of water.

The next day, I upgraded to a 3 gallon Gott cooler, with the spigot on it.   :-)
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 02, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
Well, of course, 76-78 is the preferred setting from November until late March.

We're not campers.



I couldn't live in that ice box.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: NHSparky on June 02, 2013, 07:19:16 PM
Ice box?  Keee-rist.  In winter (October-May) the heaters in the house never get above 68.

Summertime, OTOH, we just have the window units.  Just put them in last weekend, in fact.  Looking at the extended forecast it looks like this might be the only weekend in the foreseeable future we'll need them.

Scoobie and I set up he pool this weekend.  Load of water coming in on Friday.  Oh, did I mention the high temp for Friday is going to be 60? Yay.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Evil_Conservative on June 02, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
We are already in the triple digits in Las Vegas, so our A/C is on.  Our whole house is set at 75.  If I set it any higher, it feels way too warm in the house.  We kick the A/C on if the house gets above 83 degrees.  That's where I start to get uncomfortable and start sticking to the couch.

Winter isn't that bad.  We kick the heat on (can't remember how many degrees) whenever it gets below 36 degrees.  Otherwise it will feel like an icebox in the house.  I love winter because we can get all of our fresh air.  I already miss having our windows open.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Chris_ on June 02, 2013, 07:37:09 PM
It wasn't hot here, but it sure was humid.  Spent 15 minutes messing with my car and was dripping wet by the time I was done.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 02, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Ice box?  Keee-rist.  In winter (October-May) the heaters in the house never get above 68.

Summertime, OTOH, we just have the window units.  Just put them in last weekend, in fact.  Looking at the extended forecast it looks like this might be the only weekend in the foreseeable future we'll need them.

Scoobie and I set up he pool this weekend.  Load of water coming in on Friday.  Oh, did I mention the high temp for Friday is going to be 60? Yay.

That's your normal weather conditions. I was referring to someone who sets the thermostat at 71. That's pretty chilly for ac hence icebox. As for your normal weather yeah I hate the cold shit. I lived in two very warm year round places for a very long time; have been in winter land for a decade and I still despise the winter. You can have it:)
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Post by: I_B_Perky on June 02, 2013, 09:12:40 PM
It wasn't hot here, but it sure was humid.  Spent 15 minutes messing with my car and was dripping wet by the time I was done.

It was in the mid 90's here all week and humid as hell. It's always humid here though. I changed the oil in my car Friday afternoon around 7pm and when I got done I looked like I had jumped in the river.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Chris_ on June 02, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
It was in the mid 90's here all week and humid as hell. It's always humid here though. I changed the oil in my car Friday afternoon around 7pm and when I got done I looked like I had jumped in the river.   :cheersmate:
It's so humid, you might as well be getting rained on.  It doesn't feel any different.  Drip, drip, drip.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 02, 2013, 09:25:02 PM
I couldn't live in that ice box.
71?!?! That's San Diego weather!

Once in a while on a summer evening a Snuggy might feel good, but indoor temp in the low 70s is why God gave us central air.
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Post by: ColonelCarrots on June 02, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
73 is perfect for me.
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Post by: I_B_Perky on June 02, 2013, 09:41:02 PM
It's so humid, you might as well be getting rained on.  It doesn't feel any different.  Drip, drip, drip.

Ain't that the truth!!!! We had a good little breeze here but it don't do no good.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: GOBUCKS on June 02, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
I've learned the best thing to do with an LLV is to close the door leading to the back, open both windows all the way up and set the fan so that it blows across the cab.

Sure, the mail in the back gets pretty warm, but being the evil fascist rethug that I am, I'm really not that concerned about how comfortable the bills and catalogs are.

Newman!
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Post by: JLO on June 02, 2013, 11:07:49 PM
73 is perfect for me.

Same here.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: RobJohnson on June 03, 2013, 03:27:03 AM
We are already in the triple digits in Las Vegas, so our A/C is on.  Our whole house is set at 75.  If I set it any higher, it feels way too warm in the house.  We kick the A/C on if the house gets above 83 degrees.  That's where I start to get uncomfortable and start sticking to the couch.

Winter isn't that bad.  We kick the heat on (can't remember how many degrees) whenever it gets below 36 degrees.  Otherwise it will feel like an icebox in the house.  I love winter because we can get all of our fresh air.  I already miss having our windows open.

I went for a few hours today without the a/c on. Once it hit 81 inside the house, it went back on. It was 102 outside. I have friends that use swamp coolers and brag about low electric bills. I moved here to avoid humidity, I don't need to add it to the inside of my house with a swamp cooler. I have seen homes with swamp coolers that seem musty, it gets my allergies going. Plus most of them are very loud.

Living alone I do pretty well in the winter with Edenpure space heaters, I usually only use one room at a time and it comes in handy. They really work well when I work nights and just need to take the chill out of my bedroom or living room.

Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 03, 2013, 05:59:57 AM
71?!?! That's San Diego weather!

Once in a while on a summer evening a Snuggy might feel good, but indoor temp in the low 70s is why God gave us central air.

71 with sun shining on you is not 71 of compressed air indoors. Icebox. Are you from Ohio originally? That would explain it right there;)
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: RayRaytheSBS on June 03, 2013, 06:38:37 AM
It hasn't gotten over 90 here in NC yet. The wife and I are enjoying it while we can. This time last year the heat index was already in the high 90's. We can't wait to get back to a spot that has snow and cold weather. I can't stand the heat and humidity, so the thermostat is set at 70 in our house!
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 03, 2013, 08:05:42 AM
It's now 71 in my home due to the temps going down and windows open. I need a hoodie and my toes are cold. Like I said icebox and my estimation was correct now that I've had a chance to reobserve my frame of reference. Crazy ass people;)

All kidding aside I've noticed men seem to like it colder and seem to really feel the heat more so I guess that accounts for a lot.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Undies on June 03, 2013, 09:39:00 AM
It's now 71 in my home due to the temps going down and windows open. I need a hoodie and my toes are cold. Like I said icebox and my estimation was correct now that I've had a chance to reobserve my frame of reference. Crazy ass people;)

All kidding aside I've noticed men seem to like it colder and seem to really feel the heat more so I guess that accounts for a lot.

It is exactly 71 degrees in my house too.  It is due to a roaring 4-tons of refrigerated air being pumped into this humble abode.
Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: 67 Rover on June 03, 2013, 09:40:36 AM
For $1000 a DUmmie and three friends could make use of this.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2013/06/02/New-York-state-selling-used-morgue-refrigerator-on-eBay/UPI-56691370199459/

Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: Dori on June 03, 2013, 10:43:59 AM
It's so humid, you might as well be getting rained on.  It doesn't feel any different.  Drip, drip, drip.

I don't know how you all can stand humidity.  I can take desert dry heat, but not the humidity.


Title: Re: primitives discuss handling the heat without air conditioning
Post by: jtyangel on June 03, 2013, 11:34:37 AM
It is exactly 71 degrees in my house too.  It is due to a roaring 4-tons of refrigerated air being pumped into this humble abode.

Brrrrr