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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on June 01, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
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On your dime, of course.
alp227 (20,644 posts)
Gov. Rick Scott signs bill banning EBT card use at casinos
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Florida is banning welfare recipients from using EBT cards at "adult entertainment establishments" like strip clubs and casinos.
Gov. Rick Scott on Thursday signed the bill (HB 701) into law. It was one of 36 bills that Scott signed.
EBT cards - standing for electronic benefit transfer - are like debit cards. Welfare recipients use them to draw down their benefits.
Critics called the bill offensive to poor people. But the bill's sponsor said that voting against his measure was like "voting for lap dances on taxpayer dollars."
full: http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2013/5/30/gov_rick_scott_signs.html
At least free porn is very available online!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022930522
Gravitycollapse (1,433 posts)
2. Legislating morality is essentially always bad.
You are right. Rick Scott is a shithead. And this only furthers that point.
cynatnite (27,266 posts)
9. Do you think you have the right to tell poor people to spend the money given to them? n/t
cynatnite (27,266 posts)
26. The money is given to them as THEY see fit...not for you to decide...nor anyone else...
It's not your place to decide how someone spends the money that's given to them.
Also, they usually get food stamps so the cash on the EBT card does not go for food.
Do morality cops carry morality badges, too?
Pragdem (184 posts)
75. That's what this is about. Setting a precedent to dictate more things.
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Right-wingers only believe in the personal freedoms of those with enough money to live their life the way they want.
It's liberty for the affluent and nanny state for the poor.
Gravitycollapse (1,433 posts)
4. Telling the poor they're too stupid to know where to spend their money is a blight on the poor.
Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #8)
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:14 AM
Gravitycollapse (1,433 posts)
12. And not allowing people to make such decisions debases them as intellectual beings.
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We are essentially saying that poor people are too stupid or too irresponsible to make such decisions. And my guess is that the actual level of such abuse is almost non-existent.
PotatoChip (1,550 posts)
117. They are accessing their cash there.
There is no proof that they are spending it there.
I already mentioned this in another post, but many poor people do not have bank accounts. Therefore, they have to use cash to pay for their rent, utilities, ect.
The atms that are most convenient and least expensive fee-wise for them, may just happen to be in one of those places. I withdraw cash from my debit card in all sorts of places depending on convenience and fee amounts. However, that does not mean that I am spending my cash there.
Ooooh, so they're just using the casino ATM because it's convenient. They're not actually spending the money there.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
That's a special kind of stupid, right there.
cynatnite (27,266 posts)
27. EBT isn't a cash only card...
Food stamps are also placed on there in addition to cash.
Also, it's none of your business how someone determines the use of their food stamps and money given to them.
What's hilarious about this is the fact that a person can pull the cash off the EBT cards and spend it as they see fit...without the morality cops here at DU telling them what to do.
Cali_Democrat (14,756 posts)
49. That was my first question
Is there some kind of epidemic of poor people using EBT cards at casinos and strip clubs?
Probably not.
Just more idiots who think all of the world's problems are because of welfare recipients.
Head, meet sand.
hollysmom (1,318 posts)
10. just how much does this really occur?
Could be just to make welfare recipients look bad and not really be a problem, Like when he drug tested welfare recipients and found well less than the general public used drugs. Seems like the suual republican trick to turn one group (middle class ) against another (poor).
Don't fall for it,. Call him on it.
onehandle (35,619 posts)
17. That'll create jobs!
Oh Bat Boy. How one term you are going to be.
Liberal In Texas (7,409 posts)
18. Thank god the leaders of Morality
in America have nipped that one in the bud.
It was probably a huge problem down there in Florida.
:sarcasm:
alarimer (11,707 posts)
69. Republicans really like telling poor people what to do.
But they scream "FREEDOM" if we want people to have clean air or water or a living wage.
Pragdem (184 posts)
74. People on government assistance should be entitled to the same vices...
That people who aren't on government assistance are entitled to.
Restaurants should also be able to accept EBT cards. A hot meal is a hot meal. And maybe some people have disabilities that make it difficult for them to cook.
Some of the DUmmies do get it, but they are lambasted for being "right wing morality police", of course.
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But they'll be the first to scream and cry when children are going hungry. They'll claim these people aren't getting enough money, but the truth will be they don't have the money because Mommy and/or Daddy are buying beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets.
Liberals are so stupid. I can't blame the poor for taking advantage of just how dumb liberals are. Problem is libs aren't the ones have to fork out the money.
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cynatnite (27,266 posts)
9. Do you think you have the right to tell poor people to spend the money given to them? n/t
cynatnite (27,266 posts)
26. The money is given to them as THEY see fit...not for you to decide...nor anyone else...
It's not your place to decide how someone spends the money that's given to them.
The kicked dog yelps the loudest.
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Here is how it works, DUmmies...the money those dirtbags are spending is confiscated from we working people who pay taxes.
We sure as **** should have a say in how the dirtbags spend it.
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Here is how it works, DUmmies...the money those dirtbags are spending is confiscated from we working people who pay taxes.
We sure as **** should have a say in how the dirtbags spend it.
Put another way, it's this:
He who gives the cash can dictate where it's used.
Take the king's coin, play by the king's rules.
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If you want to see some bum. Get a job you lazy bum.
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cynatnite (27,266 posts)
9. Do you think you have the right to tell poor people to spend the money given to them? n/t
When it was my money first, then STOLEN from me to give to them, then yes... I have the right to tell poor people how to spend MY money.
If you want to play at a casino, get a damn job and spend your own hard earned money there. I live in Las Vegas and rarely ever play at a casino. We rarely step foot in a casino. It's mostly a locals casino to eat at a restaurant. I think the last time I put money in a machine was the last time my in-law's were in town. That would have been October.
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When it was my money first, then STOLEN from me to give to them, then yes... I have the right to tell poor people how to spend MY money.
If you want to play at a casino, get a damn job and spend your own hard earned money there. I live in Las Vegas and rarely ever play at a casino. We rarely step foot in a casino. It's mostly a locals casino to eat at a restaurant. I think the last time I put money in a machine was the last time my in-law's were in town. That would have been October.
You found that quarter on the floor, didn't you. :tongue: :-)
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You found that quarter on the floor, didn't you. :tongue: :-)
I'll never tell you my secrets.
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You take our money, so you'll do as we say.
Make your own money, and you can spend it however you want.
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You take our money, so you'll do as we say.
Make your own money, and you can spend it however you want.
:agree: Of course this is what a Dummy hears: :lalala:
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Gravitycollapse (1,433 posts)
4. Telling the poor they're too stupid to know where to spend their money is a blight on the poor.
Isn't that how they wound up poor in the first place?
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There is an old Cliche, DUmbos -
"If You take the King's Shilling, You do the King's Bidding"
If you are beholden to your government, then that same government can make your determinations for you. Why do you think we dislike Obamacare so much ? You love the idea of Government healthcare, yet here you are pissin' and moanin' because some states prevent its citizens from spending taxpayer money in ways the state feels are wasteful and unnecessary.
What are you going to do when Obamacare decides that 'you cant have that procedure, because it wastes too much money. ' ?
Pay for it yourself ? -Not likely.
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"If You take the King's Shilling, You do the King's Bidding"
What are you going to do when Obamacare decides that 'you cant have that procedure, because it wastes too much money. ' ? ...or you're too old or too far gone...
...maybe they decide that its the Death Panel for you....?
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Well dummies... when you depend on the government for your food and shelter you have basically sold your freedom. What you are is government slaves. :loser: :loser:
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Well DUmmies, when it was originally MY money, and it goes to support your worthless asses, yeah, I think I in fact SHOULD have some say in how you spend it.
Frankly, ya'll should be getting beans and rice in lieu of food stamps, not a credit card you load up on steak and lobster, then use the cash you get to buy booze. Pretty sad when some leech eats better than I do and I work 50-plus hours a week for what little I have.
And oh yeah--WORK REQUIREMENTS. Did I mention in Sparkyland you'd be WORKING for that "welfare?" Oh, don't worry about how you'll get to work picking up trash, cleaning graffiti, etc. We'll have that covered. And don't worry about sleeping late, cause that bus horn is ****ing LOUD, scooters!
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What do DUers do, just sit around and make up things to be offended by? The money that the state provides them is for them to support themselves and their families, not to indulge their vices and bad habits.
"Junior had to go hungry because dad really needed that lap dance from Sasha."
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Meanwhile, those who make the money paid as taxes to support these leeches should not be allowed to...
* take their FICA and dedicate it towards a retirement plan of their own choosing.
* receive vouchers to send their children to a school of their choosing
* donate to any political cause progressives disagree with
* buy a 44 ounce soda
* deal as they see fit with bankrupt businesses they have purchased
* tithe at the church of their choice
* buy McMansions
* eat at McDonald's
* patronize strip clubs (it's degrading to wuh-munz when the self-reliant do it)
* advertise on the Rush Limbaugh show
* buy the LA Times
* donate to crisis pregnancy centers
* create health savings accounts
* buy cigarettes
* not buy birth control
etc etc etc
This is why liberals are to be ridiculed, and by "ridiculed" I mean "punched in the mouth -- with a large rock."
This has nothing to do with personal liberty or championing the poor. It is about taking from good people and doing so with impunity and without restriction.
They are greedy, malicious, tiny souls.
Think Sméagol.
They are not to be trusted or accepted into proper society.
They are to be driven into the sea.
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PotatoChip (1,550 posts)
117. They are accessing their cash there.
There is no proof that they are spending it there.
Yeah, like it's much more convenient for me to drive 35 miles to Metropolis and use the Casino ATM.
Retard.
What do DUers do, just sit around and make up things to be offended by?
Seems that way.
The money that the state provides them is for them to support themselves and their families, not to indulge their vices and bad habits.
"Junior had to go hungry because dad really needed that lap dance from Sasha."
You would think that, in the process of making up things to be offended by, they would realize just how flipping stupid they have become.
Alas......no.
Isn't that how they wound up poor in the first place?
Nah......the Koch Brothers stole it all.
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Isn't that how they wound up poor in the first place?
Not necessarily but it's damn sure why they stay that way.
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Just when I think that the DUches cannot get any stupider. They Surpass their last benchmark by leaps and bounds. It's really simple, welfare should not be a comfortable living. Because if it is, there is no motivation to GET A JOB!! If you want to go to the strip club, GET A JOB!! if you want lobster and steak as Sparky brought up, GET A JOB!! If you don't like it, it sucks to be you.
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It's a pretty good read, the enormous campfire. Quite a few DUmmies do get it, that it's the public money earned by someone else. Cynatnite and PotatoChip are stubborn
mules asses.