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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: JohnnyReb on May 30, 2013, 09:15:09 PM
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It's over, the troop voted to disband.....it was unanimous. 75 years of being one of the best if not the best in our council. My son and another boy will be the last to get their Eagle from our troop. MY son and other senior scouts were at the meeting with all the adult leaders. The Scout master and other adult leaders have all turned in their resignations. My son and 2 more boys that have just turned 18 and were going to stay with the troop as assistants, all refused to step up and be the new scout leaders.....I am glad they didn't volunteer for all I see is trouble ahead. Son was emotional when he got home after the meeting, I guess he's never seen old men shed tears before....lot of tears shed there tonight. They've paid for summer camp but they won't be going.
Another local troop is having a similar meeting shortly. A couple of their leaders were at our troops meeting and they say that they're probably going to vote to fold also.
Damn spineless ass progressive democrats ruin everything decent.
I feel sick.
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I am sorry to hear that Johnny.
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Very sorry to hear of this, JR. I know how important Scouting is to your son and, by extension, you.
Perhaps something else can come along - there have been rumblings of an alternative to BSA -- Royal Rangers, for example.
This could very well be an opportunity to explore new territory and learn new things for the boys and adults alike.
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Very sorry to hear of this, JR. I know how important Scouting is to your son and, by extension, you.
Perhaps something else can come along - there have been rumblings of an alternative to BSA -- Royal Rangers, for example.
This could very well be an opportunity to explore new territory and learn new things for the boys and adults alike.
I would love to see RR pick up where BSA has failed. I was involved in RR for several years, first as a Ranger, and later as an outpost leader.
It looks like we're not the only ones thinking about this, either. Take a look at Google Trends when using the search 'Royal Rangers boys':
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=royal+rangers#q=royal%20rangers%20boys&cmpt=q
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It saddens me to hear of this, but I sure don't blame them for voting to disband. I'm glad to hear there may be alternatives. I used to interpret for a couple of young scouts who were deaf and didn't have fathers involved. I grew to admire the scout leaders and what the scouts stood for in all the boys' lives.
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As a former Webelos and the father of an Eagle Scout...what's happening to this organization makes me sick to my stomach.
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JR, I'm sorry to hear what has happened with BSA.
When you guys mention Royal Rangers, are you talking about the one associated with the Assemblies of God church, or another?
I was raised in the AG church.
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It's over, the troop voted to disband.....it was unanimous. 75 years of being one of the best if not the best in our council. My son and another boy will be the last to get their Eagle from our troop. MY son and other senior scouts were at the meeting with all the adult leaders. The Scout master and other adult leaders have all turned in their resignations. My son and 2 more boys that have just turned 18 and were going to stay with the troop as assistants, all refused to step up and be the new scout leaders.....I am glad they didn't volunteer for all I see is trouble ahead. Son was emotional when he got home after the meeting, I guess he's never seen old men shed tears before....lot of tears shed there tonight. They've paid for summer camp but they won't be going.
Another local troop is having a similar meeting shortly. A couple of their leaders were at our troops meeting and they say that they're probably going to vote to fold also.
Damn spineless ass progressive democrats ruin everything decent.
I feel sick.
Such a shame, this saddens me. And I have to wonder how many more troops around the country have or are contemplating disbanding. :mad:
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Such a shame, this saddens me. And I have to wonder how many more troops around the country have or are contemplating disbanding. :mad:
As a former Girl Scout and have had a couple kids in the BSA I am devastated that the children and their leaders choose to give in without a fight against the perverts and those that need to start their own club, say the Gay Scouts where cooking and sewing and or clothe designing are the main subjects. How to avoid the Gay bashers and how to conduct your self in the bathroom of a Gay bar.
We need a throw back to the early 1900's when survival was the big thing. How to build a fire, use a gun, how to hunt, trap survive in either the forest or the city.
The boy and girl Scouts was meant to give kids survival methods where ever they found themselves.
In my time we learned as girls mind you not the cooking or sewing, that we received in Home EC. in the schools. We learned how to build a raft, how to signal for rescue with mirrors, Mores Code and a great deal the boys were learning. My most unfavored class was how to remove a blood sucker.
Best advice I received and handed down to my kids, if being attacked don't yell for help---Yell FIRE, few will ignore that call.
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I won't do any good to go to the RR. Teh Ghays will destroy that too.
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I won't do any good to go to the RR. Teh Ghays will destroy that too.
I wonder if Heritage Girls have been infiltrated yet. Girl Scouts went via the liberal agenda a long time ago.
Scouting is so valuable for both boys and girls. I sure hope the alternative groups can survive and grow.
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Fags will destroy everything they touch.
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Be Prepared for Gay Scouting
If you think the gay mafia will be satisfied with the recent decision to allow children who claim to be gay to remain in scouting, you have not been watching them closely. They won't be satisfied until gays are also allowed to serve as scout leaders and redefine scout values. Look for more strong armed tactics until they get their way. I know there are gays that support traditional values, but unfortunately, they are not leading the gay agenda.
BE PREPARED
to the tune of Be Prepared from The Lion King
(Notice how few of the real words to this song needed to be changed)
Scar:
I know that your powers of retention
Are as wet as a Webelo's backside
But thick as you are, pay attention
My words are the truth of gay pride
It's clear from your vacant expressions
The lights are not all on upstairs
But we're talking gay rights ascension
Even you can't be caught unawares
So prepare for a change of a lifetime
Be prepared for sensational news
A shining new era
Is tiptoeing nearer
Shenzi:
Will old values teeter?
Scar:
It’s time for gay leaders
I know it sounds sordid
But you'll be rewarded
When at last we are given our dues
And injustice deliciously squared
Be prepared!
Spoken
Banzai:
Yeah, Be prepared.
Yeah-heh... we'll be prepared, heh.
...For what?
Scar:
For the death of their King.
Banzai:
Why? Is he sick?
Scar:
No, fool-- we're going to forget him.
And chastity too.
Shenzi:
Great idea! Who needs The King?
Shenzi (and then Banzai):
No King! No King! la--la-la--la-laa-laa!
Scar:
Idiots! There will be a king!
Banzai:
Hey, but you said, uh...
Scar:
Queerness will be king! ...Stick with me, and you'll never go hungry again!
Shenzi and Banzai:
Yaay! All right! Long live Queerness!
All Hyenas:
Long live Queer! Long live Queer!
Full song again
Hyenas:
It's great that they'll have gay scoutmasters.
All that’s Queer will be all-time adored.
Scar:
We’ll of course, dump the bigoted pastor
And replace his values on board
The future is littered with prizes
Recruits for the GLBT
The point that I must emphasize is
There won't be Boy Scouts without me!
So prepare for the coup of the century
(Oooh!)
Be prepared for the murkiest scam
(Oooh... La! La! La!)
Meticulous planning
(We'll have boys!)
Tenacity spanning
(Lots of boys)
Decades of denial
(We repeat)
Is simply why I'll
(Endless meat)
Gay rights undisputed
(Aaaaaaah...)
Respected, saluted
(...aaaaaaah...)
And seen for the wonder it is
(...aaaaaaah!)
Yes, our teeth and ambitions are bared
(Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo)
Be prepared!
All:
Yes, our teeth and ambitions are bared
Be prepared!
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JR, I was wondering what was going to happen to your son. I sure am glad he got Eagle before all of this brouhaha. I know a few good men that got to Life, and Order of the Arrow, but for one reason or another, never made it to Eagle and regret it now.
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I don't think the goal was to force gays into scouting. I think the goal was to destroy scouting, one of the few institutions that teach values contrary to the liberal agenda.
If the scouts cease to exist, the gays will be happy.
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JR, I'm sorry to hear what has happened with BSA.
When you guys mention Royal Rangers, are you talking about the one associated with the Assemblies of God church, or another?
I was raised in the AG church.
Yes. I was also raised in the AG church.
I won't do any good to go to the RR. Teh Ghays will destroy that too.
I'd like to see them try.
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I was a scout and a Catholic but my troop was sponsored by the local United Methodist Church.
My older sister was a girl scout at the same church.
It was this church that was the center of scouting for my area.
The gay agenda is not only to destroy scouting but to destroy anything that represents "traditional morals" including religion. It's no secret that the liberals and the democrat's agenda are the same as the gays. Everything that our country was founded on is being trashed.
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JR, I was wondering what was going to happen to your son. I sure am glad he got Eagle before all of this brouhaha. I know a few good men that got to Life, and Order of the Arrow, but for one reason or another, never made it to Eagle and regret it now.
Thank you....he has made Eagle in the Boy Scouts and last year he made Vigil in the OA. This turn of events with the national organization takes some of the shine off his accomplishments.....and tonight he graduated high school with Honors.
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I was wondering if the Scouts could be run as a social club akin to the Moose Lodges ???
Strict rules on who can or can not join for any reason, race, sex, and who is allowed to attend any function.
EX hubby joined as did I but we had little knowledge of the rules. Each chapter has different rules, some do not allow unescorted woman into the bar area, and one in Portsmouth VA a Military based economy town near Norfork did not of all things allow members in Uniform to enter the bar area or most any place on the property, strange that one.
This was a very long time ago and we were both in our 20's and so naive.
However I think one could modify this idea that would exclude gays but welcome boys of all race and faiths.
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I was wondering if the Scouts could be run as a social club akin to the Moose Lodges ???
Strict rules on who can or can not join for any reason, race, sex, and who is allowed to attend any function.
EX hubby joined as did I but we had little knowledge of the rules. Each chapter has different rules, some do not allow unescorted woman into the bar area, and one in Portsmouth VA a Military based economy town near Norfork did not of all things allow members in Uniform to enter the bar area or most any place on the property, strange that one.
This was a very long time ago and we were both in our 20's and so naive.
However I think one could modify this idea that would exclude gays but welcome boys of all race and faiths.
Obviously, they can't operate this way any more. :whatever: The constant harassment and bullying from the left bent too many "leaders."
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Obviously, they can't operate this way any more. :whatever: The constant harassment and bullying from the left bent too many "leaders."
Why not MrsSmith, we have a problem effecting our children, can we not think outside the box and consider every way we can protect our children. ?
We still have the right to associate with our own kind, why do not the kids have the same rights ?
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The gay agenda is not only to destroy scouting but to destroy anything that represents "traditional morals" including religion. It's no secret that the liberals and the democrat's agenda are the same as the gays. Everything that our country was founded on is being trashed.
For such a small percentage of the public, they have sure made their way into everything. Look at the Public Schools and the Military and now our health care system.
I've been complaining how the commies have infiltrated every institution we have, and that was the plan all along.
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
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I just got an e-mail announcing the resignation of our council head. In it he explained all that has gone on behind the scene the last few months and past week or so in Texas.
I don't know how much I can or should divulge from the e-mail but I will say this....It was the northeast liberals only that wanted this and they controlled everything that went on there and didn't allow any other voices or opinions to be heard. They shoved it down the throat of BSA.
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I just got an e-mail announcing the resignation of our council head. In it he explained all that has gone on behind the scene the last few months and past week or so in Texas.
I don't know how much I can or should divulge from the e-mail but I will say this....It was the northeast liberals only that wanted this and they controlled everything that went on there and didn't allow any other voices or opinions to be heard. They shoved it down the throat of BSA.
I was just reading about a church that cancelled their scouts' charter because of the homosexual vote. In another article I read that it's mostly churchs that sponsor scouts. I wonder what the effect of that is going to be. Wouldn't that have been something they considered before voting on the issue?
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I just got an e-mail announcing the resignation of our council head. In it he explained all that has gone on behind the scene the last few months and past week or so in Texas.
I don't know how much I can or should divulge from the e-mail but I will say this....It was the northeast liberals only that wanted this and they controlled everything that went on there and didn't allow any other voices or opinions to be heard. They shoved it down the throat of BSA.
What's it going to hurt to speak the truth and let it out? People should know names, dates, locations, etc of who did this.
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For such a small percentage of the public, they have sure made their way into everything. Look at the Public Schools and the Military and now our health care system.
I've been complaining how they commies have infiltrated every institution we have, and that was the plan all along.
Commirs historically have persecuted and killed gays. One of the biggest gay haters besides Muslims. Homosexuality in North Korea, Cuba, China, Soviet Union, Derg Ethiopia, etc punished gays by execution.
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Commirs historically have persecuted and killed gays. One of the biggest gay haters besides Muslims. Homosexuality in North Korea, Cuba, China, Soviet Union, Derg Ethiopia, etc punished gays by execution.
Maybe they did in their own countries, but what the Soviets intended for us was something else....it was a subversive plan they called "Demoralization", which is pretty much complete.
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Maybe they did in their own countries, but what the Soviets intended for us was something else....it was a subversive plan they called "Demoralization", which is pretty much complete.
One can hope for another Pinochet or Suharto............
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I was just reading about a church that cancelled their scouts' charter because of the homosexual vote. In another article I read that it's mostly churchs that sponsor scouts. I wonder what the effect of that is going to be. Wouldn't that have been something they considered before voting on the issue?
When I was a boy and then again as an adult leader, our Troop was sponsored by an elementary school. Troop 740, Lathers Elementary, Garden City, MI should be coming up on 50 years in just a couple/few years -- if they don't vote to disband. I have no idea how that's going to go.
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Well I had the unpleasant duty of informing our local scout leaders, that I would no longer lend the woods on the back third of my property, to the Scouts. I have had Scout Camping on my property for the last 8 years. They said they understood, claimed they had no gay scouts in their troops, and wished me to reconsider. I told them Christian Scripture labeled homosexuality an abomination before God. I could not, in good conscience, support an organization that called evil good, and good, evil. I would cringe at the prospect that a homosexual act might happen on my property.
As I was saying goodbye, a pastor from the Methodist Church came in and said they would no longer sponsor a troop there, either. Sad, really.
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As a former Webelos and the father of an Eagle Scout...what's happening to this organization makes me sick to my stomach.
Same here TRG. This did not have to happen. This decision was made by those with no prior connection to BSA but the damage is done.