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Title: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: dutch508 on May 27, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
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zeos3 (1,013 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022904937

This would end most, if not all, wars.
http://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-constitution-amendments/proposed-amendments/

In 1916, a proposed amendment to the Constitution read that all acts of war should be put to a national vote. Anyone voting yes would have to register as a volunteer for service in the United States Army.

Also:

1876: the forbidding of religious leaders from occupying a governmental office or receiving federal funding

1933: an attempt to limit the personal wealth to $1 million

Check it out for interesting reading.

Um… no it wouldn’t.

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gateley (61,941 posts)
1.   No wonder it didn't make it -- how could war mongers profit?!?!?!


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Buzz Clik (29,033 posts)
2.   Americans have never, ever voted for something really stupid or contrary to their best interests.

Um… Barry ‘the ghey blade’  Obama. Twice.

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arcane1 (20,006 posts)
4. 1971: American citizens should have the alienable right to an environment free of pollution.
 
That one would sure come in handy now.

The stupid just keeps on coming.

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Donald Ian Rankin (9,718 posts)
5. Including world war 2, which would mean I wouldn't be here, so no thanks.
 
Ban conscription, and keep the army volunteer-only.

Um…there is no conscription and the Army (and the rest of the military) is all volunteer…

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BrotherIvan (399 posts)
31. I would gladly volunteer to not be here if it meant the end of war.

I nominate this post for the most stupid post of the year (to date)

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Initech (38,994 posts)
7. I love that amendment about putting war to a national vote.
 
Most of the people who would be for wars would be military contractors, NRA types, and fake patriots like Ted Nugent. And under this amendment they'd have to serve.

What about right after 9/11/01? What do you think the people would have voted for?

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oldhippie (1,433 posts)
19. A National vote would be interesting, as I don't believe we ever had one .....

I'm not aware of there ever having been a National vote on anything. All elections I am aware of are run by states or local governments. Even our vote for President is actually a state vote for a slate of Electors.

Not saying it couldn't be done, but it seems some new mechanism would be needed.

Old DUmpmonkie. We have a national vote every four years…

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Buzz Clik (29,033 posts)
12. Do keep in mind we voted in GW Bush two times.
 
Why would this end any wars?

Wait for it…

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RC (21,644 posts)
29. Actually, he wasn't.
 
He was installed by the Supreme Court the first time, with suspicious voting and vote totals both times.

(http://demotivatos.com/upload/img/www.demotivatos.com_MONEY_SHOT_20120913002708.jpg)

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mountain grammy (1,633 posts)
37. Ha, good one! It oughtta be a law! When my son enlisted I did not give my permission
 
but he went anyway. He served on the USS Wisconsin during the Bush/Iraq War I, and, I'm proud of him, but, if we had a do over, I still wouldn't give my permission.
Welcome to DU.

I am sure your son was very proud of you too.

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Lady Freedom Returns (4,613 posts)
34. The first one would mean the end of the secret ballot.

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Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Splashdown on May 27, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
How about you get a vote only if you pay income taxes? Or own property?

 :panic:

 :-)
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 27, 2013, 11:43:55 AM
So when the Proglodytes say the Tea Party should be hunted down, churches taxed into obliteration, private corporations seized, the NRA declared a terrorists organization, guns seized by executive diktat and the police dispatched to teach those RW thumb-suckers what's-what they of course realize this will lead to a civil war.

They will also put this to a national referendum and anyone voting in favor of it will be conscripted.

Right?

Or is it only Muzzies and Commies we're supposed to feel guilty about killing? Killing Americans because they disagree politically is okee-dokee.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: docstew on May 27, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Someone read some early Heinlein "To Us, The Living".

How many wars have been PREVENTED due to America's strength and resolve? How many wars were ended by America's strength? How many human rights have been protected by American Soldiers, throughout our history?
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: dutch508 on May 27, 2013, 11:56:28 AM
How about you get a vote only if you pay income taxes? Or own property?

 :panic:

 :-)

Or completed military service...
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Ballygrl on May 27, 2013, 01:13:09 PM
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This would end most, if not all, wars.

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Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on May 27, 2013, 01:15:46 PM
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In 1916, a proposed amendment to the Constitution read that all acts of war should be put to a national vote. Anyone voting yes would have to register as a volunteer for service in the United States Army.


Yeah, I can see how that would have stopped Gavarilo Princip dead in his tracks.

In 1914.  

Idiot.


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1876: the forbidding of religious leaders from occupying a governmental office or receiving federal funding


Woodrow Wilson was a Francisscan Monk?

Huh.

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1933: an attempt to limit the personal wealth to $1 million

List for me, please, the accumulated net worth of each Socialist/Marxist (SSDD) Politicians and Generals who achieved total power.  I'll wait.


Brain hurt a lot?  

Especially on days like this, eh?

 
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on May 27, 2013, 01:17:41 PM
(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/republicanpeacesign_zpsf5ad0639.gif)

PH*uckin' A, right.

 :hi5:
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: miskie on May 27, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
The entire thread on DU misses this one - I wonder why ?

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1947: the income tax maximum for an individual should not exceed 25%
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: AprilRazz on May 27, 2013, 01:57:20 PM
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mountain grammy (1,633 posts)
37. Ha, good one! It oughtta be a law! When my son enlisted I did not give my permission
 
but he went anyway. He served on the USS Wisconsin during the Bush/Iraq War I, and, I'm proud of him, but, if we had a do over, I still wouldn't give my permission.
Welcome to DU.
That's OK, I didn't get permission from my mommy to enlist either and neither did she. It's called being an adult.

Now my grandfather did get his mother to sign him over as he was only 17 and was raring to go.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Mr Mannn on May 27, 2013, 01:59:44 PM
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zeos3 (1,013 posts)

This would end most, if not all, wars.

In 1916, a proposed amendment to the Constitution read that all acts of war should be put to a national vote. Anyone voting yes would have to register as a volunteer for service in the United States Army.
Translation from Maggot infested, Occupier, Hippie-ese to normal human.

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zeos3 (1,013 posts)
(Speaks in gay sissy boy voice) OK peoples. everyone who wants a war, give me up-twinkles!
 

DUmmies. the smartest people on the interwebs.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Big Dog on May 27, 2013, 03:42:51 PM
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zeos3 (1,013 posts)

This would end most, if not all, wars.

In 1916, a proposed amendment to the Constitution read that all acts of war should be put to a national vote.

DUmbass. What about wars in which the United States is not a party to the war?





Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Big Dog on May 27, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
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BrotherIvan (399 posts)
31. I would gladly volunteer to not be here if it meant the end of war.

DUmmy BrotherIvan,

Swallow the pills, turn on the gas, and put the gun in your mouth. You'll singlehandledly rid the world of war, forever.

I promise.

:evillaugh:
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 27, 2013, 04:55:49 PM
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zeos3 (1,013 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022904937

This would end most, if not all, wars.
http://www.constitutionfa...ents/proposed-amendments/

In 1916, a proposed amendment to the Constitution read that all acts of war should be put to a national vote. Anyone voting yes would have to register as a volunteer for service in the United States Army.

No, but it would end the era of anyone else taking the United States seriously.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Airwolf on May 28, 2013, 12:04:00 AM
And yet these dumb mofo's want to risk a civil war over taking guns away from thier legal owners. They have gone way past being the laughing stock of the internet and landed in absurdville.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Wineslob on May 28, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
DUmbass. What about wars in which the United States is not a party to the war?








Hey, don't point out that, ummmm, SLIGHTLY myopic view of the world........
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 28, 2013, 03:29:04 PM
DUmbass. What about wars in which the United States is not a party to the war?

If it weren't for the US there would be no wars.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: diesel driver on May 29, 2013, 03:22:17 AM
If it weren't for the US there would be no wars.

Exactly.

What other reason did the Germans need to bomb Pearl Harbor?  ("Animal House" reference.  DUmmies wouldn't know the difference)
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Freeper on May 29, 2013, 07:22:48 AM
Exactly.

What other reason did the Germans need to bomb Pearl Harbor?  ("Animal House" reference.  DUmmies wouldn't know the difference)

I thought the Italians bombed Pearl Harbor.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Rebel on May 29, 2013, 07:26:33 AM
I thought the Italians bombed Pearl Harbor.

No, they torpedoed the Lusitania.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 29, 2013, 07:58:30 AM
No, they torpedoed the Lusitania.

 :thatsright:.....yeah, that's right, it was the Japanese that sunk the Titanic.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: vesta111 on May 29, 2013, 08:04:43 AM
I thought the Italians bombed Pearl Harbor.

NO,NO we did it ourselves according to the libs to start a war to get us out of the depression. Hawaii was not a state then remember so technically we were not attacking ourselves as the Germans did when they dressed up in Polish uniforms and blew up something or other as an excuse to invade Poland.

Just like Bush had the twin towers attacked as an excuse to go to war some say.

Ah that FDR was a clever devil, the millions of people out of work, the bread lines and all, made sense to lower our population by a million or so, war time jobs for those unable to enlist or pass the physical to be drafted.  Then to put icing on the cake the GI bill that offered anyone who survived the war a free college education.   For those that did not want an education, the vets. were given first place for a Government job, woman were encouraged to give up their jobs so our returning survivors could take their place.    

One would be surprised just how many believed this crap, some is true in any conspiracy theory but  by golly, nothing tops Obama and the theory's that will come about 10 years after he leaves office.  

We still argue about dropping the Bomb on Japan.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 29, 2013, 08:11:43 AM
NO,NO we did it ourselves according to the libs to start a war to get us out of the depression. Hawaii was not a state then remember so technically we were not attacking ourselves as the Germans did when they dressed up in Polish uniforms and blew up something or other as an excuse to invade Poland.

Just like Bush had the twin towers attacked as an excuse to go to war some say.

Ah that FDR was a clever devil, the millions of people out of work, the bread lines and all, made sense to lower our population by a million or so, war time jobs for those unable to enlist or pass the physical to be drafted.  Then to put icing on the cake the GI bill that offered anyone who survived the war a free college education.   For those that did not want an education, the vets. were given first place for a Government job, woman were encouraged to give up their jobs so our returning survivors could take their place.    

One would be surprised just how many believed this crap, some is true in any conspiracy theory but  by golly, nothing tops Obama and the theory's that will come about 10 years after he leaves office.  

We still argue about dropping the Bomb on Japan.

If it weren't for "The Bomb", many of us baby boomers wouldn't be here......therefore more free stuff for the freeloading DUmmies.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 29, 2013, 08:23:53 AM
No, they torpedoed the Lusitania.

In Pearl Harbor . . . :tongue:
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Big Dog on May 29, 2013, 08:47:05 AM
In Pearl Harbor . . . :tongue:

You can't fool me. I know the real reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor: Saturday soccer was rained out!

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Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: vesta111 on May 29, 2013, 09:36:49 AM
If it weren't for "The Bomb", many of us baby boomers wouldn't be here......therefore more free stuff for the freeloading DUmmies.

The way things were going had we not used the bomb, Germany would have soon cracked the code and we could today be all speaking German.    OH they were so close, IIRC their problem was Heavy Water--what ever that is----    Rosenberg's       were executed for giving the Russians the final code,
but  at the end of the war the scientists from Germany went to Russia or to the U.S.     

I never believed the Rosenberg's were guilty, they were Jews and not found of Russia.

Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Big Dog on May 29, 2013, 09:52:48 AM
The way things were going had we not used the bomb, Germany would have soon cracked the code and we could today be all speaking German.    OH they were so close, IIRC their problem was Heavy Water--what ever that is----    Rosenberg's       were executed for giving the Russians the final code,
but  at the end of the war the scientists from Germany went to Russia or to the U.S.     

I never believed the Rosenberg's were guilty, they were Jews and not found of Russia.

nadin vesta,

Germany surrendered 3 months before the US used nuclear weapons on Japan. How did the atomic bomb, which had not even been tested yet, influence Germany's surrender?

Julius Rosenberg was dirty. There is some doubt about Ethel, based on later statements by her brother, who was part of the spy cell.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 29, 2013, 10:07:45 AM
The Japanese were closer to having an atomic bomb than were the Germans. They knew what the bomb was when it was dropped. They destroyed all the paperwork they could on the work they had done toward an atomic bomb. They have never fully admitted that they were trying for one but information came out in the early 90's that they were trying to develop one.

....and the Germans may have contributed some atomic material to our two A-Bombs....look up the last secret mission of German submarine U-234.
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Big Dog on May 29, 2013, 10:37:03 AM
The Japanese were closer to having an atomic bomb than were the Germans. They knew what the bomb was when it was dropped. They destroyed all the paperwork they could on the work they had done toward an atomic bomb. They have never fully admitted that they were trying for one but information came out in the early 90's that they were trying to develop one.

....and the Germans may have contributed some atomic material to our two A-Bombs....look up the last secret mission of German submarine U-234.

I just looked at the story of U-234. Thanks!
Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: Wineslob on May 30, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
No, they torpedoed the Lusitania.


That and working with the Swiss on spaghetti trees.


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Title: Re: This would end most, if not all, wars.
Post by: GOBUCKS on May 30, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
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arcane1 (20,006 posts)
4. 1971: American citizens should have the alienable right to an environment free of pollution.
 
That one would sure come in handy now.

I'm pretty sure DUmmy arcanenumber has no idea what the word "alienable" means.