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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on May 23, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
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jmowreader (23,938 posts)
America's Biggest Pothead gets seven years (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022891759)
I told you about Michael Ihler before. Ihler, of St. Maries, Idaho, is the guy who claimed his 597 pot plants were for personal use.(You may remember Ihler was the guy who tore part of the roof off his house so the weed growing in his living room would get natural light.)
He got 5 years fixed prison time, 2 years indeterminate time (meaning if he doesn't adequately reform in the first five they can leave him in there for two more) and a $15,000 fine.
Ihler is so fortunate I'm not his judge. This asshole went into his sentencing hearing with the standard "I put marijuana in front of my family, relationships and responsibility" canned line that everyone who majorly ****s up uses to try to sweet-talk the judge into a lower sentence. And if he had been busted with four or five plants I might believe it. But this asshole cut off the roof of his ****ing house so he could run a commercial pot farm in his living room. He is the closest thing to a drug lord St. Maries will ever see, and I would have put him away for 20 years.
There is no link to the story in the post, and here was all I could find:
http://www.gazetterecord.com/news/article_5900986e-acf5-11e2-9e97-0019bb2963f4.html
Michael Ihler, 56, is scheduled to be sentenced May 17.
A jury found Ihler guilty of trafficking marijuana Feb. 13. Ihler was arrested and charged Sept. 12, 2012, after police found 597 marijuana plants at his residence while serving a search warrant.
But of course, the DUmmies are pissed about this:
spanone (72,127 posts)
1. for growing a weed...you'd give him 20 years? wow.
lob1 (3,127 posts)
2. Does he kill people? If not, maybe he's just a farmer.
7 years and $15,000 is a lot of time and money for being a farmer.
Farming in his own house? :bird:
Occulus (20,337 posts)
3. It takes a very sick mind to justify 20 years for growing plants.
A very, very sick mind.
librechik (25,021 posts)
4. with liberal posts like these, no wonder we're still far away from justice
legalization must happen and soon. The right makes too much money off prisons.
:whatever:
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Sounds like DUmmy Bernie has competition.
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Response to jmowreader (Original post)Thu May 23, 2013, 03:43 PM
HappyMe (11,846 posts)
8. 20 years? Wow.
He didn't kill anyone. As far as the house goes, it's his house.
I've heard that a man's house is his castle but this is ridiculous. Anything goes--inside your own house, that is.
:stoner:
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RevStPatrick (1,887 posts)
9. Please do not run for judge in your jurisdiction.
In fact, please don't do anything, anywhere, ever.
Other than rant on the interwebz.
You can keep doing that all you want, because nobody really cares.
:badass:
RainDog (24,254 posts)
10. as you noted, you live in right wing heaven
as your post indicates, as well.
what separates you from republicans? you offer "kinder, gentler" fascist sentiment?
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How conveniently they all forget the pot grower/seller in CA whose dogs just killed a woman. The dogs he used to protect his crop.
KC
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Comrade Grumpy (3,387 posts)
18. Anyone who wants to "put him away for 20 years" for growing plants can take a flying ****.
backscatter712 (19,836 posts)
24. Amen! **** this authoritarian bullshit!
"Let's ruin this guy's entire life because I don't like the plants he grows!"
Makes me ****ing sick to see this shit.
Yet you approve of killing babies. Nice logic, ass-clown.
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OK, so the dummies get their way and pot is leagalized. Somehow, I bet the politicians see a revenue stream in there somewhere. Kind of like alcohol. It is legal to own and consume, but you cannot set up a still in your back yard and sell to the masses. Small little tax issue there if you do.
I think that growing 500+ plants would be like setting up a still. I can soon see a tax stamp on the bag of cannibus that is sold at Dr. Marvins medicinals. If not, someone is going to the hooscow.
On another note.......Do you think NASCAR would have gotten a start if insead of bootlegging, people tried to move pot infront of the revenue agents. Never seen a doper get pulled over for speeding yet.
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The right makes too much money off prisons......show me the money.
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The right makes too much money off prisons......show me the money.
You haven't been getting your direct deposits from the VRWC?
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You haven't been getting your direct deposits from the VRWC?
No......have you?
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No......have you?
Contact Dick Cheney or Karl Rove. :-)
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Marijuana is drug most often linked to crime, study finds
WASHINGTON — Marijuana is the drug most often linked to crime in the United States, the U.S. drug czar said Thursday, dismissing calls for legalization as a “bumper-sticker approach†that should be avoided.
Gil Kerlikowske, the White House director of national drug-control policy, said a study by his office showed a strong link between drug use and crime. Eighty percent of the adult males arrested for crimes in Sacramento, Calif., last year tested positive for at least one illegal drug. Marijuana was the most commonly detected drug, found in 54 percent of those arrested.
The study found similar results in four other cities: New York, Denver, Atlanta and Chicago. Among the cities, it included examinations of 1,736 urine samples and 1,938 interviews with men who were arrested.....
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/23/192101/marijuana-is-drug-most-often-linked.html
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The war on drugs is a joke. How many years and how many trillions of dollars have been spent to have no appreciable effect on the usage of drugs by adults? Why do we go after the small fish, the users and street dealers, while mostly ignoring the medium size fish, the traffickers and distributors, and pretty much aid the big fish, the producers? Why have the poppy crops hit new records in Afghanistan every single year we have been there?
Our war on drugs actually help the people making the most money. They've refined their product over the years so that less is needed to get the same effect, but their market is roughly the same as it has ever been. Without our low level interdiction efforts, the price of the drugs would collapse and a lot of drug inc. would simply go bankrupt.
If the war on drugs were about stopping usage, it has failed. If it were about stopping production, that's a total failure. What then is the war on drugs about? Well, we now have no-knock warrants which are an absurd violation of the constitution, an increasingly militarized police force with an us (the police) versus everybody else (criminals and citizens) to fight the drug war, and drug laws that make the sizure of private property to fund the government okay if the property was used for drugs, even if it was used without the owner's consent. The drug war is an attack on civil liberties, and has been almost since the beginning.
I don't like sharing a DUmmies view of putting a guy away for selling pot, but so what. The police busted this guy and some other guy was in operation the next day. It's the same as if you arrested every single street dealer in NYC today. They would all be replaced tomorrow. Read McMafia.
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The war on drugs is a joke. How many years and how many trillions of dollars have been spent to have no appreciable effect on the usage of drugs by adults? Why do we go after the small fish, the users and street dealers, while mostly ignoring the medium size fish, the traffickers and distributors, and pretty much aid the big fish, the producers? Why have the poppy crops hit new records in Afghanistan every single year we have been there?
Our war on drugs actually help the people making the most money. They've refined their product over the years so that less is needed to get the same effect, but their market is roughly the same as it has ever been. Without our low level interdiction efforts, the price of the drugs would collapse and a lot of drug inc. would simply go bankrupt.
If the war on drugs were about stopping usage, it has failed. If it were about stopping production, that's a total failure. What then is the war on drugs about? Well, we now have no-knock warrants which are an absurd violation of the constitution, an increasingly militarized police force with an us (the police) versus everybody else (criminals and citizens) to fight the drug war, and drug laws that make the sizure of private property to fund the government okay if the property was used for drugs, even if it was used without the owner's consent. The drug war is an attack on civil liberties, and has been almost since the beginning.
I don't like sharing a DUmmies view of putting a guy away for selling pot, but so what. The police busted this guy and some other guy was in operation the next day. It's the same as if you arrested every single street dealer in NYC today. They would all be replaced tomorrow. Read McMafia.
I don't completely disagree with you, Vagabond.
Just trying to point out DUmmy hypocrisy.
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24. Amen! **** this authoritarian bullshit!
"Let's ruin this guy's entire life because I don't like the plants he grows!"
Makes me ****ing sick to see this shit.
What if the 'plants he grows' are from Monsanto seed stock ?
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The war on drugs is a joke. How many years and how many trillions of dollars have been spent to have no appreciable effect on the usage of drugs by adults? Why do we go after the small fish, the users and street dealers, while mostly ignoring the medium size fish, the traffickers and distributors, and pretty much aid the big fish, the producers? Why have the poppy crops hit new records in Afghanistan every single year we have been there?
Our war on drugs actually help the people making the most money. They've refined their product over the years so that less is needed to get the same effect, but their market is roughly the same as it has ever been. Without our low level interdiction efforts, the price of the drugs would collapse and a lot of drug inc. would simply go bankrupt.
If the war on drugs were about stopping usage, it has failed. If it were about stopping production, that's a total failure. What then is the war on drugs about? Well, we now have no-knock warrants which are an absurd violation of the constitution, an increasingly militarized police force with an us (the police) versus everybody else (criminals and citizens) to fight the drug war, and drug laws that make the sizure of private property to fund the government okay if the property was used for drugs, even if it was used without the owner's consent. The drug war is an attack on civil liberties, and has been almost since the beginning.
I don't like sharing a DUmmies view of putting a guy away for selling pot, but so what. The police busted this guy and some other guy was in operation the next day. It's the same as if you arrested every single street dealer in NYC today. They would all be replaced tomorrow. Read McMafia.
The idea of a "war on drugs", "war on poverty", or "war on terror" is a false construct. Each is designed to give government more power and restrict individual liberty.
How does the US government define "victory" in these social "wars"? It doesn't. As long as one person survives who can pick a marijuana plant, complain about being "poor", or buy a pressure cooker and a pack of nails, the government will continue to oppress Citizens under the guise of protecting us from ourselves.
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Excellent Rob.
KC
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Excellent Rob.
KC
I thought it pointed out the liberal mindset pretty well.
It's ok to ban a big gulp, but weed is ok.
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I thought it pointed out the liberal mindset pretty well.
It's ok to ban a big gulp, but weed is ok.
That was kind of the point of why I dragged the thread over. 8)
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That was kind of the point of why I dragged the thread over. 8)
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