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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: CG6468 on May 21, 2013, 05:08:59 PM
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IRS SCANDAL: ARMED POLICE 'ESCORT' REPORTERS THROUGH CINCINNATI OFFICE
Monday afternoon, ABC News released a chilling report that details what journalists have faced while trying to get some answers from the Cincinnati IRS office, which is where a majority of the Tea Party targeting took place.
According to ABC, an "armed uniform police officer with the Federal Protective Service" "escorted" reporters through the public building. ABC says if the intent wasn't to "scare off" employees who might talk, "it was the effect."
ABC News is also hearing conflicting reports from Cincinnati IRS employees and the IRS Headquarters in Washington. A Washington spokesman told ABC that press queries are "referred to the press office," but that "people have First Amendment rights, they are entitled to speak."
An employee in OH said that is not the case and that staffers have been threatened with their jobs if they are caught talking to the media:
Isn't it comforting to learn that no thuggery exists in this administrtion? :panic: (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/20/Armed-Police-Follow-Reporters-IRS-Employees-Scared-Off-From-Talking)
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Isn't it comforting to learn that no thuggery exists in this administrtion? :panic: (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/20/Armed-Police-Follow-Reporters-IRS-Employees-Scared-Off-From-Talking)
:ownit: DUmmies
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Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment
WASHINGTON — A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the 5th Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening — or why she didn’t disclose it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III. Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday.
“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,†said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Vista). The letter, sent Monday, was obtained Tuesday by the Los Angeles Times.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story
GEE .. I Wonder Why ..?
President met with anti-Tea Party IRS union chief the day before agency targeted Tea Party..
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking/
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Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-top-irs-official-fifth-amendment-20130521,0,6645565.story
GEE .. I Wonder Why ..?
President met with anti-Tea Party IRS union chief the day before agency targeted Tea Party..
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking/
I'm sure it's because Holdem & the DOJ are planning to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. Right?.......Right?
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWfJu-Sd8Zo[/youtube]
First, they shit on the Constitution, then they use it against us. The next president AFTER the next president will be able to blame the State of our Un ion on Obama, and the corrupt, psychotic current administration... :mad:
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I find it interesting that someone who may have been instrumental in squashing the constitutional rights of others uses that very same document to cover her own ass.
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They always tell juries to not let "pleading the fifth" cloud their decision in any way. How is that humanly possible? It screams GUILT in the court of public opinion, anyway.
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They always tell juries to not let "pleading the fifth" cloud their decision in any way. How is that humanly possible? It screams GUILT in the court of public opinion, anyway.
I'm sure they all have lawyers who have told them how to answer questions. There is no way this Administration is going to let Congress find out anything.
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“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,†said a letter by Taylor to committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Vista).
Then if she's done nothing wrong counselor...why plead the 5th? If she's innocent then there's nothing she could say that would incriminate her right?
Right?
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G U I L T Y
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G U I L T Y
Is she afraid of Congress or the White House?
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Is she afraid of Congress or the White House?
The White House
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Is she afraid of Congress or the White House?
Two guesses (first doesn't count). Can the Congress rustle up the Gestatzheipolitzei on short notice?
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/dd/ea/ddeab1e5b36a2f6c768872409c8a4b02.jpg?itok=2kb4vJxA)
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I find it interesting that someone who may have been instrumental in squashing the constitutional rights of others uses that very same document to cover her own ass.
"Rights for me, but not for thee."
I think proglodytes have it tattooed on their asses, like a cattle brand.
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"Rights for me, but not for thee."
I think proglodytes have it tattooed on their asses, like a cattle brand.
Nowadays, I believe sheep wear their ID brand on a tag stapled to their ear.
(http://www.saltspringabattoir.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sheep-with-ear-tag.jpg)
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Anyone who has any tax issues from now on needs to say mistakes were made and I plead the fifth.
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Two guesses (first doesn't count). Can the Congress rustle up the Gestatzheipolitzei Geheimstaatspolizei (Gestapo) on short notice?
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/dd/ea/ddeab1e5b36a2f6c768872409c8a4b02.jpg?itok=2kb4vJxA)
FIFY :thumbs:
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Nowadays, I believe sheep wear their ID brand on a tag stapled to their ear.
(http://www.saltspringabattoir.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sheep-with-ear-tag.jpg)
You clearly know more about sheep than I do!
:sheep:
:lmao:
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You clearly know more about sheep than I do!
:sheep:
:lmao:
I only just punched the eject button from Colorado, not even a year ago. I was surrounded by the stupid things. And then there was the livestock...
:cheers1:
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FIFY :thumbs:
Thanks for the assist. Would you prefer the :hi5: or the bs? :cheers1:
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I only just punched the eject button from Colorado, not even a year ago. I was surrounded by the stupid things. And then there was the livestock...
:cheers1:
I'm from cattle country. Aside from lambchops and wool socks, I don't think much of sheep.
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Thanks for the assist. Would you prefer the :hi5: or the bs? :cheers1:
Surprise me! :lmao:
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They let the scrunt give an opening statement. That was testifying. Once she said anything but pleading the fifth, she opened herself up. The dickless congress let her off.
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They let the scrunt give an opening statement. That was testifying. Once she said anything but pleading the fifth, she opened herself up. The dickless congress let her off.
That may be a procedural requirement.
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Maybe they can get her on "income tax evasion", we know most democrats don't pay taxes. ooops, barry won't do that :whistling:
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That may be a procedural requirement.
Issa has said she will be called back. When she made her statement, she waived her right to be covered by the 5th.
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House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa said embattled IRS official Lois Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment rights and will be hauled back to appear before his panel again.
The California Republican said Lerner’s Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination was voided when she gave an opening statement this morning denying any wrongdoing and professing pride in her government service.
“When I asked her her questions from the very beginning, I did so so she could assert her rights prior to any statement,” Issa told POLITICO. “She chose not to do so — so she waived.”
Lerner triggered the IRS scandal on May 10 when she acknowledged that the agency wrongly targeted conservative groups applying for a tax exemption. Her lawyer told the House committee earlier this week that she would exercise her Fifth Amendment.
Politico (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=FA2C83E1-B64F-48FC-85A0-808CC71CB24F)
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That's fine and dandy, but when they drag her back in front of the committee and she refuses to speak, what then, Issa? What do you do? Declare her in contempt? Take away her birthday? Make her stand in the corner?
:whatever:
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I had to look it up. I wouldn't mind seeing them throw the book at her.
Contempt of Congress is a federal misdemeanor, punishable by a maximum $100,000 fine and a maximum one-year sentence in federal prison.
Associated Press (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19693051/ns/politics/t/what-contempt-congress/)
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I had to look it up. I wouldn't mind seeing them throw the book at her.
Yeah, but isn't it prosecuted by the DOJ? Think Holder is going to do anything?
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The U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia would hear the case.
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Lois Lerner Sued Christian Coalition In Largest FEC Action in History – Then Was Promoted to IRS Where She Targeted Conservatives
Under the direction of Lois Lerner, the Federal Election Commission sued the Christian Coalition in the 1990s. She harassed the Christian Coalition for three election cycles. She lost her case. Lerner even asked one conservative during the case if Pat Robertson prayed over him.
These actions landed her at the IRS where she used the same tactics against conservatives and Christians – only on a much larger scale. 500 conservative and Christian groups were illegally targeted by the Obama IRS during her tenure. For twenty-seven months the Obama IRS refused to approve any Tea Party applications for tax-exempt status. At the same time the Obama IRS approved dozens of progressive application.
Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/breaking-lois-lerner-sued-christian-coalition-in-largest-fec-action-in-history-then-was-promoted-to-irs-video/)
This woman really needs to go.
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Lerner even asked one conservative during the case if Pat Robertson prayed over him.
What a contemptible bitch.
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Meh. Much like that second amendment, the fifth has outlived its usefulness. Lets get rid of it
/ DU mode.
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Meh. Much like that second amendment, the fifth has outlived its usefulness. Lets get rid of it
/ DU mode.
Testify or go to prison, sounds good.
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Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/breaking-lois-lerner-sued-christian-coalition-in-largest-fec-action-in-history-then-was-promoted-to-irs-video/)
This woman really needs to go.......to hell.
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The U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia would hear the case.
Would hear or prosecute the case?
Do you honestly think that this guy (http://www.justice.gov/usao/dc/about/meetattorney.html), an Obama disciple/appointee, would actually prosecute Lerner to any degree?
He'll make her stand in the corner and might possibly take away her birthday. For a day or two. After that? Crickets....
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In this current environment with Holder and Obama in the driver's seat, I'm not sure a special prosecuter is a good idea.
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In this current environment with Holder and Obama in the driver's seat, I'm not sure a special prosecuter is a good idea.
Why not?
A special prosecutor, by definition, does not answer in any way to Dear Leader or his buddy DickHolder. Remember, as much as he may have wanted to do more, the only thing Der Schleikmeister could do to Ken Starr was stonewall him. He couldn't fire him, couldn't re-assign him, couldn't even de-fund his budget.
A special prosecutor is exactly what we need here. Unfortunately, I don't see John Boner & Company as having the testicular fortitude necessary to sic a special prosecutor on his golfing buddy.
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Why not?
A special prosecutor, by definition, does not answer in any way to Dear Leader or his buddy DickHolder. Remember, as much as he may have wanted to do more, the only thing Der Schleikmeister could do to Ken Starr was stonewall him. He couldn't fire him, couldn't re-assign him, couldn't even de-fund his budget.
A special prosecutor is exactly what we need here. Unfortunately, I don't see John Boner & Company as having the testicular fortitude necessary to sic a special prosecutor on his golfing buddy.
So who gets to pick the special prosecutor? Democrats?
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So who gets to pick the special prosecutor? Democrats?
Congress does. (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor)
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So who gets to pick the special prosecutor? Democrats?
Trey Gowdy and Joe Wilson.
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IRS Puts Lois Lerner on Administrative Leave… With Pay
Lois Lerner, the Internal Revenue Service’s director of exempt organizations, has been placed on administrative leave, according to a source in the agency’s Cincinnati office.
Lerner on Thursday afternoon sent an e-mail to employees in the exempt-organizations division she oversees stating, “Due to the events of recent days, I am on administrative leave starting today. An announcement will be made shortly informing you who will be acting while I am on administrative leave. I know all of you will continue to support EO’s mission during these difficult times.†She concluded, “I thank you for all your hard work and dedication,†adding, “The work you do is important.â€
National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/node/349199)
How about that... a paid vacation.
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"..... I know all of you will continue to support EO’s mission during these difficult times.†..... does she mean the Executive Branch?
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National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/node/349199)
How about that... a paid vacation.
Should we be surprised? Obama has paid Nidal Hasan over $278,000 for murdering military personnel. Yes, I blame Obama for that, he could have ordered that Fort Hood be treated as a terrorist attack.
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IRS official who refused to testify, resign signed Tea Party letters in 2012
The IRS official who refused to testify this week -- while claiming she had done nothing wrong -- signed letters to Tea Party groups a year ago that asked them to turn over everything from printouts of their Facebook pages to the credentials of speakers who participated in their events.
A group representing more than a dozen Tea Party groups now suing the IRS released a sample of one of the letters overnight, after the official Lois Lerner was placed on administrative leave. According to one lawmaker, she was only placed on leave after she refused to resign.
Jay Sekulow, chief counsel with the American Center for Law and Justice, said the March 2012 letters show a "paper trail" that reveals her "direct involvement in sending intrusive and harassing questionnaires."
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/24/irs-official-who-refused-to-testify-resign-signed-tea-party-letters-in-2012)
Yeah... didn't see that coming.
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Actually, that's pretty standard fare.
Companies generally don't want the rank and file to talk to the press. Policies are put in place to refer employees who are approached by the press/public with questions to refer to the designated public affairs office.
The cop angle was pure intimidation, though. No doubt.
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Lois Lerner To Republican Candidate In 1996: “Promise me you will never run for office again, and we’ll drop this (FEC) caseâ€
The IRS scandal may have its roots in Illinois politics. Specifically, the 1996 U.S. Senate race between then-Democrat Congressman Dick Durbin and conservative Republican State Rep. Al Salvi.
More than a decade before his 2010 letter to IRS officials urging the agency to target conservative organizations, U.S. Senator Dick Durbin’s political career crossed paths with Ms. Lerner when she was head of the Enforcement Division of the Federal Election Commission (FEC), and directly involved in the 1996 Illinois U.S. Senate race.
Soon after the IRS story broke, Al Salvi told Illinois Review that it was IRS official Lois Lerner who represented the FEC in a Democrat complaint against him. According to Salvi, Lerner was, without question, politically motivated, and went so far as to make him an offer: â€Promise me you will never run for office again, and we’ll drop this case.â€
Salvi declined her offer, and ran for Illinois Secretary of State in 1998.
Illinois Review (http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/05/lerner-intrigue-goes-back-to-96-durbinsalvi-us-senate-race.html)
Headline: RedState (http://www.redstate.com/ulyssesarn/2013/05/29/lois-lerner-to-republican-candidate-in-1996-promise-me-you-will-never-run-for-office-again-and-well-drop-this-fec-case/)
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Illinois Review (http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/05/lerner-intrigue-goes-back-to-96-durbinsalvi-us-senate-race.html)
Headline: RedState (http://www.redstate.com/ulyssesarn/2013/05/29/lois-lerner-to-republican-candidate-in-1996-promise-me-you-will-never-run-for-office-again-and-well-drop-this-fec-case/)
The corruption is strong with that one.
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Illinois Review (http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/05/lerner-intrigue-goes-back-to-96-durbinsalvi-us-senate-race.html)
Headline: RedState (http://www.redstate.com/ulyssesarn/2013/05/29/lois-lerner-to-republican-candidate-in-1996-promise-me-you-will-never-run-for-office-again-and-well-drop-this-fec-case/)
She also sued the Christian Coalition while at the FEC, and lost.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/irss-lerner-had-history-harassment-inappropriate-religious-inquiries-fec_725004.html