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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 21, 2013, 10:16:35 AM
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calimary (30,561 posts)
TREASON. I think the GOP'ers relentlessly persecuting Obama are now guilty of it.
I posted this elsewhere here - but thought it might be worth its own thread. It was a response to rhett o rick who wondered if jonathan karl and his ilk might be guilty of sedition in cooked and concocted "news" coverage that passed off GOP-doctored talking points as the real thing from the White House. I think it smacks of flat-out TREASON. And I think we oughta start a drumbeat about it. Hit these bastards back HARDER than they hit us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022872271
Bill Maher broached the subject last week with Michael Moore - wondering aloud whether all this obstruction was tantamount to treason.
Well, I think he makes a GREAT point, and WE ought to be repeating that meme and starting to bring it to life.
Consider:
At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?
And what else is a President known as? How 'bout Commander-in-Chief of ALL United States Armed Forces? Yep, WHOEVER the POTUS is at any given moment, that's his OTHER title. That's what else our nation's Chief Executive is.
Now - what would you call obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all United States Armed Forces DURING wartime? I think it just might be TREASON. Probably HIGH Treason, at that. Because like it or not, the United States of America is still at war.
So that means Barack H. Obama is not only the current President, he's also Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces. And at THIS time, he's a WARTIME President and a WARTIME Commander-in-Chief. Anybody willfully getting in his way and impeding and obstructing his job is, in effect, committing TREASON. After all, they're obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces DURING A TIME OF WAR.
What do you think the republi-CONS would be doing now - if it was their guy in the White House, facing this much on-going opposition?
This whole mess needs to be reframed and renamed. And if they were blathering about the "I-word" then I think it's high time we started bringing up the "T-word."
It's time to fight these bastards with EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT. TREASON. That is what the GOP is now GUILTY of. They've even got the "G-for-guilty" in GOP already in place.
I'd like your take on this. I think it's messaging we should start circulating. Maybe it'll catch on.
What do you think?
calimary (30,561 posts)
4. I'm just fed up. You bad-guys wanna start insinuating about the "I-word"?
Well, then here's the "T-word" for ya, straight up yer ass.
Seriously. If OUR side blocked every damn breath and eyebrow hair of an opposition president, what do you think the CONS would do? Demand we stop? Hell. How well has THAT worked?
Summer Hathaway (1,768 posts)
2. Yeah.
It's time to say it.
calimary (30,561 posts)
6. Ah, the old false-equivalency thing again. Not relevant here. Not by a long shot.
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And btw - it's not the same thing. There was virtually NO effort at serious obstruction from the Democratic side against bush/cheney. NOTHING. NOTHING on the order of what we've seen now. NOBODY, as much as we despised bush and knew he stole the election, NOBODY set about to deliberately and actively, EN MASSE, obstruct. NOBODY on our side gathered in a little hotel conference room on the bush/cheney inauguration night to plot his political demise and how to shut him down. I remember very clearly. The media didn't. The Dems didn't. And those of us who were seriously upset about the hijacking that had just occurred (indeed, it was tantamount to a coup d'etat) had to find refuge in little groups here on the internet, and some grumbling in a few coffee shops here and there - among those of us to whom nobody listened.
There was no big uproar. There was no party-wide collusion to ruin that "presidency" OR a declaration of, okay, war if you will, that Job One for the Democrats was to make sure bush/cheney was a one-term president. NONE. Believe me, I searched! I WANTED to see this very badly because I thought it was just, and well-deserved. And there was NONE.
And we groused for several months until this one day in September 2001, when suddenly EVERYONE fell into line behind bush/cheney, and pretty much stayed that way, silenced, unquestioning, our side's leaders scrambling to find places to stand staunchly behind those two fiends. bush/cheney never EVER faced the kind of organized relentless pile-on opposition that President Obama has had to deal with - EVERY ****ING MINUTE OF EVERY ****ING DAMN DAY that he's been in office.
It's not a fair comparison you're making. Sorry.
Gravitycollapse (1,346 posts)
8. Obstructionism is not treason. It just isn't. So by calling them treasonous...
You are falsely accusing them of treason. Which is exactly what the neo-cons did to us.
JDPriestly (37,742 posts)
13. That is my thought. It can be argued that the Republicans are giving aid and comfort to the
enemy. But then, what they are doing is politics, dirty politics. It comes close, but it probably isn't treason. The only reason that I say it comes close is that the Republicans are making stuff up. They have no basis for accusing Obama of mistakes. Their theories are not based on fact.
graham4anything (9,171 posts)
9. Yes, the extremist 20 have committed treason. Sedition is illegal
pansypoo53219 (9,313 posts)
10. sedition.
spicegal (730 posts)
17. Their behavior is definitely anti-American and unpatriotic. I get that people have differing views
on politics and the way things should be done in government, but the GOP obstructs for the sake of obstructing, because their intention is to gum up the works, for no other reason then to hurt the president. It's destructive for the country and nothing gets done. They obstruct over the most benign things. They essentially prevent the government from running. Does that fit the definition of treason? don't see why not.
sakabatou (29,072 posts)
18. No, not in a legal sense
Don't let that stop Obama.
He's on a roll.
geckosfeet (8,802 posts)
19. I think the obstructing R's in congress and in fact at all levels of government have been
guilty of promoting their political agenda at the expense of good government and the best welfare of the country since mid/late 2008. Simply put the interests of the country have been compromised for their political goals. If that can be legally represented and supported in a trial for treason I say lets go for it. Bring on the special prosecutors because congress is so partisan that they could never objectively evaluate their behavior.
hack89 (21,248 posts)
30. I think you need to read the Constitution. nt
:rotf:
Nye Bevan (10,817 posts)
38. Oooooh. TREASON, probably HIGH TREASON?
Guess what, this OP is STUPIDITY, probably HIGH STUPIDITY.
And 24 recs for this crap? The mind boggles.
Dpm12 (348 posts)
49. I thought I was the ony one.
Good to know I am not alone
Then you won't die alone if you try to act on your idiotic fantasies.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022876518
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Yo DUmb****s:
[youtube=425,350]NJxmpTMGhU0[/youtube]
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At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?
And what else is a President known as? How 'bout Commander-in-Chief of ALL United States Armed Forces? Yep, WHOEVER the POTUS is at any given moment, that's his OTHER title. That's what else our nation's Chief Executive is.
Now - what would you call obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all United States Armed Forces DURING wartime? I think it just might be TREASON. Probably HIGH Treason, at that. Because like it or not, the United States of America is still at war.
So that means Barack H. Obama is not only the current President, he's also Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces. And at THIS time, he's a WARTIME President and a WARTIME Commander-in-Chief. Anybody willfully getting in his way and impeding and obstructing his job is, in effect, committing TREASON. After all, they're obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces DURING A TIME OF WAR.
Stochastic terrorism! Spin, click! Targets on officials!
:whatever:
After what we witnessed from every useless, emotionally crippled, morally bankrupt, filthy-assed, low information slave, liberals during President Bush's tenure, the DUmmie's rant rings a bit, well, hollow....
Anger: The next step of the Kubler-Ross model.
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ChoppinBroccoli (2,141 posts)
44. We're Seeing History Repeat Itself
When the Republicans tried desperately to find a scandal to pin to Bill Clinton, it provided the onus for 9/11 to happen. Their obsession with "getting Clinton" started that ball rolling downhill. And the series of events that unfolded thereafter (including the "installation" of Bush into the White House) basically caused 9/11.
And now they're doing it again.
Yes, you read that correctly kids.
Bill Clinton's perjury caused 9/11.
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Yo DUmb****s:
[youtube=425,350]NJxmpTMGhU0[/youtube]
Remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Those were the days...
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Then you won't die alone if you try to act on your idiotic fantasies.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022876518
Bring it, DUmbasses.
Bring it.
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Remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Those were the days...
They scratched those bumper stickers off of their cars the moment Obama was elected.
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I would say ignoring warnings of an attack and pleads for more security along with refusal to defend a sovereign outpost under attack treason...but that is just me.
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We so need to defeat these people at the ballot box.
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We so need to defeat these people at the ballot box.
I s'pose we could try that too.
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We so need to defeat these people at the ballot box.
Meh, I'm at the point I'm almost craving the moment they launch the Great War Against Conservatives, but that's just me.
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Meh, I'm at the point I'm almost craving the moment they launch the Great War Against Conservatives, but that's just me.
:agree: :yeahthat:
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I s'pose we could try that too.
Killing them in a civil war would be easier.
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calimary (30,561 posts)
17. Actually, you might not be far off.
Bill Maher broached the subject last week with Michael Moore - wondering aloud whether all this obstruction was tantamount to treason.
Well, I think he makes a GREAT point, and WE ought to be repeating that meme and starting to bring it to life.
Consider:
At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?
And what else is a President known as? How 'bout Commander-in-Chief of ALL United States Armed Forces? Yep, WHOEVER the POTUS is at any given moment, that's his OTHER title. That's what else our nation's Chief Executive is.
Now - what would you call obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all United States Armed Forces DURING wartime? I think it just might be TREASON. Probably HIGH Treason, at that. Because like it or not, the United States of America is still at war.
So that means Barack H. Obama is not only the current President, he's also Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces. And at THIS time, he's a WARTIME President and a WARTIME Commander-in-Chief. Anybody willfully getting in his way and impeding and obstructing his job is, in effect, committing TREASON. After all, they're obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces DURING A TIME OF WAR.
Bush was a "wartime President" for his entire two terms, save about 10 months, you ****ing idiot. Did you jackoffs stop your bitching, complaining, and protesting then? HELL NO. DU STARTED due to Bush's election and you ****ing moonbats haven't let up since.
But if you want a civil war, bring it, pussies. :bird:
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Meh, I'm at the point I'm almost craving the moment they launch the Great War Against Conservatives, but that's just me.
It sure would be funny to watch them running around like their heads were on fire. DUmmies mostly live in cities. Areas that, by definition can not support themselves.
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It sure would be funny to watch them running around like their heads were on fire. DUmmies mostly live in cities. Areas that, by definition can not support themselves.
The DUmmies would very quickly be killed and eaten by the predators and scavengers in their Bluetopias.
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Meh, I'm at the point I'm almost craving the moment they launch the Great War Against Conservatives, but that's just me.
Yup. I'm sooo tired of wandering in the wilderness of contra-revolutionary non-groupthink and I anxiously await the caring, all-concerned minions of Dear Leader showing me the error of my ways, and welcoming me into the blissful life of Hope and Change. [/sarc] :rotf: :rotf:
Y'all can probably guess how hard it was to type that and keep a straight face... :fuelfire:
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It sure would be funny to watch them running around like their heads were on fire. DUmmies mostly live in cities. Areas that, by definition can not support themselves.
It will be even more fun to watch them running around their Blue Shitholes with their heads ACTUALLY on fire. :fuelfire:
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Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?
Oh..... *clap clap*.
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Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?
When did Congress last declare war?
Damn that Constitution anyway!
:-)
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So that means Barack H. Obama is not only the current President, he's also Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces. And at THIS time, he's a WARTIME President and a WARTIME Commander-in-Chief. Anybody willfully getting in his way and impeding and obstructing his job is, in effect, committing TREASON. After all, they're obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces DURING A TIME OF WAR.
So that means the DUmp en masse could be retroactively charged with treason for their actions from 2001 thru 2008?
Be careful what you ****tards wish for...it's a knife that cuts both ways.
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The DUmbasses really need to lay off the crack pipe. :stoner:
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ChoppinBroccoli (2,141 posts)
44. We're Seeing History Repeat Itself
When the Republicans tried desperately to find a scandal to pin to Bill Clinton, it provided the onus for 9/11 to happen. Their obsession with "getting Clinton" started that ball rolling downhill. And the series of events that unfolded thereafter (including the "installation" of Bush into the White House) basically caused 9/11.
And now they're doing it again.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_WYr_TbhYNJc/SuzRYJ_4_hI/AAAAAAAAAJI/e-rybyRr4Jo/27xl7hg.gif)
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Spicegal:
They essentially prevent the government from running. Does that fit the definition of treason? don't see why not.
Pretty casual about something that would entail the death penalty. Who are you going to put on trial? All R congressmen, senators, governors, state legislators, town councilmen, dog catchers? Everyone who voted for them? Is that what you're picturing?
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And btw - it's not the same thing. There was virtually NO effort at serious obstruction from the Democratic side against bush/cheney. NOTHING. NOTHING on the order of what we've seen now.
Bullshit. The few things that the left let Bush pass had the backing of most Americans and they did it for self preservation. Other times, President Bush gave in and let the left add i their bullshit to get what he knew was better for the country. Obama rams shit through congress with the help of freedom hating Pelosi and Reid.
JDPriestly (37,742 posts)
13. That is my thought. It can be argued that the Republicans are giving aid and comfort to the
enemy.
Who is giving arms to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? Obama. Who wants to arm al Qaeda rebels in Syria? Obama. Treasonous? Hell Yes.
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Response to calimary (Original post)
Tue May 21, 2013, 06:04 AM
cali (80,170 posts)
16. Your argument is, well, sickening.
****. according to your "logic", we're all supposed to sit down and shut up for a wartime president.
**** that.
and **** the bullshit treason meme with a rusty rake.
shortsighted, to put it mildly.
Response to cali (Reply #16)
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:45 AM
graham4anything (9,174 posts)
27. Yes, of course we should.
Of course. (bolding mine).
And get a load of this:
Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #43)
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:58 AM
MNBrewer (5,638 posts)
47. Don't get me wrong
I'm all for the trial and execution of plutocrats. But not for silliness like what is discussed in the OP.
I'm talking about their ACTUAL crimes. David and Charles Koch, for example.
Response to calimary (Original post)
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:56 AM
Pragdem (13 posts)
31. It's what they would be screaming if this were a Republican administration...
Blocking a democratically elected President from passing the agenda that won him the office SHOULD carry some kind of punishment.
Holy shit.
The representatives and senators who form the 2nd branch of the republic were also democratically elected, moron noob. In fact, they were elected to block his agenda, many in 2010, after so many got a whiff of who obozo truly is.
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It sure would be funny to watch them running around like their heads were on fire. DUmmies mostly live in cities. Areas that, by definition can not support themselves.
Yup. Reminds me I need to try and stock up since I live in a... target rich environment... If only ammo wasn't so damn hard to find.
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Yup. I'm sooo tired of wandering in the wilderness of contra-revolutionary non-groupthink and I anxiously await the caring, all-concerned minions of Dear Leader showing me the error of my ways, and welcoming me into the blissful life of Hope and Change. [/sarc] :rotf: :rotf:
Y'all can probably guess how hard it was to type that and keep a straight face... :fuelfire:
Not bad... That'll be 10 Hail Rushes followed by 5 Our Hannitys in penance though.
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Yup. Reminds me I need to try and stock up since I live in a... target rich environment... If only ammo wasn't so damn hard to find.
Me too but I have been stockpiling for decades. With the high prices now, it is like I'm going cold turkey.
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Me too but I have been stockpiling for decades. With the high prices now, it is like I'm going cold turkey.
I have to qualify with a pistol for work, and when I went to the range last Friday, I had to go four places before I found a place with any .40 ammo and they'd only sell me one of the two boxes they had on the shelf. Think I need to take up reloading if the ammo situation doesn't change.
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Remember when dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Those were the days...
Welcome to the new world order. Dissent is racist now.
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Me too but I have been stockpiling for decades. With the high prices now, it is like I'm going cold turkey.
I'm sure, like me, that due to that tragic boating accident, you don't have a single round of ammo in your home now.
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Which comes closer to treason, objection to and obstruction of harmful domestic policies and exposure of government wrongdoing, or constant carping about a President and the military being "war criminals", assigning nefarious motivations for going to war, accusing him of religious genocide, and lauding the efforts of our enemies thus providing aid and comfort to their morale and propaganda?
For me the choice is clear.
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It sure would be funny to watch them running around like their heads were on fire. DUmmies mostly live in cities. Areas that, by definition can not support themselves.
One word--
Water.
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One word--
Water.
It won't be water when they're through with it.
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One word--
Water.
Hellz yeah!! Shut off the water supply to leftist shitholes - a water supply usually stored/accumulated faaar OUTSIDE city limits, as illustrated by the missionaries for the religion of peace in the Bahston area a week or two ago - and even the most rabid of the poo-flinging Obamadrones would be reduced to drinking their own urine inside of 72 hours.
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I have to qualify with a pistol for work, and when I went to the range last Friday, I had to go four places before I found a place with any .40 ammo and they'd only sell me one of the two boxes they had on the shelf. Think I need to take up reloading if the ammo situation doesn't change.
Don't forget about www.ammoseek.com
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calimary (30,561 posts)
At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Lurking DUmmies, justa refresher about your loyality.
You DUmbasses that have kinfolk in the military or National Guard would alert the world when a unit got activated and scheduled for deployment.
Skimmer had to enact a rule prohibiting any disclosure about troop movement being posted on DU. DUmmies ignored him and got Tombstoned.
Does aiding and abetting the enemy sound familiar? It should. Ragheads got more useful intel from DU that it did anywhere else.
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Yup. Reminds me I need to try and stock up since I live in a... target rich environment... If only ammo wasn't so damn hard to find.
There are plenty of other ways. Arrows for example. May not go as far but they are quiet
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There are plenty of other ways. Arrows for example. May not go as far but they are quiet
Arrows are the bane of ballistic body armor.
I wonder if nads knows that.
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At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Why would they be in harms way in countries populated mostly by peaceful Muslims?
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I myself was thinking of the Hillary sick and tired quote as well............... it does sound better than the ........ I don't feel no ways tarrrrrrrrrred I cummmmmmmm toooooooooooo farrrrrrrrrrr...............
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Arrows are the bane of ballistic body armor.
I wonder if nads knows that.
Silly question. Of course she does. She invented Google.
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calimary (30,561 posts)
TREASON. I think the GOP'ers relentlessly persecuting Obama are now guilty of it.
I posted this elsewhere here - but thought it might be worth its own thread. It was a response to rhett o rick who wondered if jonathan karl and his ilk might be guilty of sedition in cooked and concocted "news" coverage that passed off GOP-doctored talking points as the real thing from the White House. I think it smacks of flat-out TREASON. And I think we oughta start a drumbeat about it. Hit these bastards back HARDER than they hit us.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022872271
Bill Maher broached the subject last week with Michael Moore - wondering aloud whether all this obstruction was tantamount to treason.
Well, I think he makes a GREAT point, and WE ought to be repeating that meme and starting to bring it to life.
Consider:
At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.
Don't you DARE use my son you ****ing useless piece of shit! You don't ever even think about him or anyone else in the military unless you're criticizing them, calling them names, talking about how stupid they are or USING THEM AS A ****ING PROP as you are now. You've LOST the right to use them. Remember YOUR rule: You can't talk about something if you haven't been there. And you haven't! Not one of you EVER had to hear a report on the news that there'd been a suicide bombing or battle or whatever, in the same area where your son or husband or grandson, daughter, etc. are and not been able to sleep until you heard from them. Not one of you EVER got that knock on the door and had to hear the news that your loved one had died.
You constantly tear down their values, their families, their beliefs. Your side does everything they can to prevent their votes from being counted. And while they ARE "in harms way" (if they all died tomorrow from some huge explosion half of you wouldn't care and the other half would say they deserved it) YOUR boy king is denying their families the right to participate in the political process. They're being intimidated by the IRS, asked the content of their prayers, filling out forms that similar groups on the left never had to do! Why shouldn't pro abortion groups have to undergo the same scrutiny as pro life groups? IT'S THE SAME ****ING ISSUE, you pigs. How about groups formed to fight citizens united or to push single payer healthcare. Citizens United is the "law of the land", as is 0bamacare (which is NOT single payer). How about groups on the left that protest ANY law you don't like? Isn't that the same thing as the people on the right are doing? Why are their rights not as valuable as yours?
And the fact is, only an idiot can't see how the talking points have changed (the drip, drip, drip of the truth they can no longer hide), daily, about the IRS scandal. The woman who was head of the IRS at the time, the one who's been given HUGE bonuses every year, and now been promoted to head up the division to enforce 0bamacare...she's going to plead the 5th. Now why would she do that if she didn't have something (criminal) to hide?
And then, your ****ing boy king is bugging reporters, taking their phone messages & conversations, effectively preventing them from protecting their sources. What if the Bush administration had done this to journalists during the Valerie Plame non scandal? You would have been throwing tantrums and screaming for impeachment. But it's okay for the justice departemtn to do this because it's 0bama's, right? Evidently, they can't be held responsible for anything. Doing so would admit how twisted & evil they are and how ****ing stupid YOU are.
And then there's Benghazi! You'll never admit it to yourselves because you can't ever face the truth. It's like the saying, "If you want to piss off a conservative, lie to them. If you want to piss off a liberal, tell them the truth". You've seen the emails, you've seen how the talking points changed EVEN WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION NEW THE TRUTH! You've heard the whistleblowers, who risked everything, some who've already lost a lot, some believe the exact things you believe, donated to 0bama and other democrats who've been brave enough to come forward to tell the truth. And others are and will come forward. You know Stevens practically begged for more security. Not only was it denied, put a portion of the few he did have were removed. Even IF it was a CIA gun running operation, it was still one put in place by YOUR president. You've heard enough evidence to know those 4 men were left there to die. These whistleblowers tell similar stories from the perspective of where they were. A Navy admiral lost his command because he wanted to help, despite the stand down order. We know there were special forces, jets, ships could've gotten there in time. You know the lame excuse of "they couldn't get there in time" is bogus because during a situation like that NO ONE knows how long it's going to continue. A competent, caring CinC would've given orders to send help, NOT stand down. And he certainly wouldn't have gone to bed, NEVER ONCE CHEKCING TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE GOING. Instead, he was getting a good night's sleep so he could jet off on Air Force One (at OUR expense) to a fund raiser with JayZ and Beyonce. You know Panetta's lame ****ing excuse that "you don't send troops into a situation where you don't know the situation" is bullshit! That's exactly the kind of situation they train for.
And you know YOUR president and Hillary stood surrounded by the coffins of those 4 dead Americans and their families and blamed a video that he KNEW wasn't to blame. Remember, according to HIM he knew it was a terrorist attack right away. He & Hillary looked those parents, surrounded by the coffins of their sons, in the eye and swore they'd get the guy who made the video and put him in jail. Considering the fact that they KNEW (remember, their words) it was a PLANNED terror attack that had not a damn thing to do with a video, they deliberately LIED to those parents TO THEIR FACE! And now, since you can't defend him, you're crying treason because your precious boy king is being pushed in a corner (well he put himself there by HIS actions). You cry "RACISM" because you can't justify any of this White House's actions.
I don't give a flying rat's ass if you refuse to see the truth. I don't give a damn if the only way you can cope is to lie to yourselves and blame ANYONE else, espcially those trying to get answers for the parents who NEED closure. But don't you FOR ONE ****ING minute use my son as an excuse. **** you all in the ass with a sharp edged rusty pipe! I hope all that bad karma you draw to yourself never leaves and you die as miserably as you're living.
Cindie
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Don't you DARE use my son you ****ing useless piece of shit! You don't ever even think about him or anyone else in the military unless you're criticizing them, calling them names, talking about how stupid they are or USING THEM AS A ****ING PROP as you are now. You've LOST the right to use them. Remember YOUR rule: You can't talk about something if you haven't been there. And you haven't! Not one of you EVER had to hear a report on the news that there'd been a suicide bombing or battle or whatever, in the same area where your son or husband or grandson, daughter, etc. are and not been able to sleep until you heard from them. Not one of you EVER got that knock on the door and had to hear the news that your loved one had died.
You constantly tear down their values, their families, their beliefs. Your side does everything they can to prevent their votes from being counted. And while they ARE "in harms way" (if they all died tomorrow from some huge explosion half of you wouldn't care and the other half would say they deserved it) YOUR boy king is denying their families the right to participate in the political process. They're being intimidated by the IRS, asked the content of their prayers, filling out forms that similar groups on the left never had to do! Why shouldn't pro abortion groups have to undergo the same scrutiny as pro life groups? IT'S THE SAME ****ING ISSUE, you pigs. How about groups formed to fight citizens united or to push single payer healthcare. Citizens United is the "law of the land", as is 0bamacare (which is NOT single payer). How about groups on the left that protest ANY law you don't like? Isn't that the same thing as the people on the right are doing? Why are their rights not as valuable as yours?
And the fact is, only an idiot can't see how the talking points have changed (the drip, drip, drip of the truth they can no longer hide), daily, about the IRS scandal. The woman who was head of the IRS at the time, the one who's been given HUGE bonuses every year, and now been promoted to head up the division to enforce 0bamacare...she's going to plead the 5th. Now why would she do that if she didn't have something (criminal) to hide?
And then, your ****ing boy king is bugging reporters, taking their phone messages & conversations, effectively preventing them from protecting their sources. What if the Bush administration had done this to journalists during the Valerie Plame non scandal? You would have been throwing tantrums and screaming for impeachment. But it's okay for the justice departemtn to do this because it's 0bama's, right? Evidently, they can't be held responsible for anything. Doing so would admit how twisted & evil they are and how ****ing stupid YOU are.
And then there's Benghazi! You'll never admit it to yourselves because you can't ever face the truth. It's like the saying, "If you want to piss off a conservative, lie to them. If you want to piss off a liberal, tell them the truth". You've seen the emails, you've seen how the talking points changed EVEN WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION NEW THE TRUTH! You've heard the whistleblowers, who risked everything, some who've already lost a lot, some believe the exact things you believe, donated to 0bama and other democrats who've been brave enough to come forward to tell the truth. And others are and will come forward. You know Stevens practically begged for more security. Not only was it denied, put a portion of the few he did have were removed. Even IF it was a CIA gun running operation, it was still one put in place by YOUR president. You've heard enough evidence to know those 4 men were left there to die. These whistleblowers tell similar stories from the perspective of where they were. A Navy admiral lost his command because he wanted to help, despite the stand down order. We know there were special forces, jets, ships could've gotten there in time. You know the lame excuse of "they couldn't get there in time" is bogus because during a situation like that NO ONE knows how long it's going to continue. A competent, caring CinC would've given orders to send help, NOT stand down. And he certainly wouldn't have gone to bed, NEVER ONCE CHEKCING TO SEE HOW THINGS WERE GOING. Instead, he was getting a good night's sleep so he could jet off on Air Force One (at OUR expense) to a fund raiser with JayZ and Beyonce. You know Panetta's lame ****ing excuse that "you don't send troops into a situation where you don't know the situation" is bullshit! That's exactly the kind of situation they train for.
And you know YOUR president and Hillary stood surrounded by the coffins of those 4 dead Americans and their families and blamed a video that he KNEW wasn't to blame. Remember, according to HIM he knew it was a terrorist attack right away. He & Hillary looked those parents, surrounded by the coffins of their sons, in the eye and swore they'd get the guy who made the video and put him in jail. Considering the fact that they KNEW (remember, their words) it was a PLANNED terror attack that had not a damn thing to do with a video, they deliberately LIED to those parents TO THEIR FACE! And now, since you can't defend him, you're crying treason because your precious boy king is being pushed in a corner (well he put himself there by HIS actions). You cry "RACISM" because you can't justify any of this White House's actions.
I don't give a flying rat's ass if you refuse to see the truth. I don't give a damn if the only way you can cope is to lie to yourselves and blame ANYONE else, espcially those trying to get answers for the parents who NEED closure. But don't you FOR ONE ****ING minute use my son as an excuse. **** you all in the ass with a sharp edged rusty pipe! I hope all that bad karma you draw to yourself never leaves and you die as miserably as you're living.
Cindie
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Outstanding, Cindie!!!!! :cheersmate:
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AMEN!!!