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Title: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: dandi on May 19, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
The vid is mainly applied to Scandinavian countries, but tell me it doesn't describe the denizens of Du to a "T" in all their beliefs, not just their protective attitude towards Islam.

In the interest of full disclosure, Pat Condell is himself a liberal and an atheist and can be quite obnoxious at times on the subject of religion, but from what I've seen he at least adopts a live and let live attitude as long as faith is practiced peacefully.

[youtube=425,350]nwK7VRkbGiU[/youtube]
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: Mr Mannn on May 19, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
Liberals turn into progressives. Progressives turn into communists. Communists kill off a percentage of their own populace.
They all support murder to further political aims.
They all support persecuting those who merely disagree.
None of them support the freedoms enshrined in the constitution.

Liberal. Progressive. Communist. They are the same: all just various shades of blood red.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: Big Dog on May 19, 2013, 05:06:07 PM
Quote from: Mr Mannn on May 19, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
Liberals turn into progressives. Progressives turn into communists. Communists kill off a percentage of their own populace.
They all support murder to further political aims.
They all support persecuting those who merely disagree.
None of them support the freedoms enshrined in the constitution.

Liberal. Progressive. Communist. They are the same: all just various shades of blood red.

Modern Leftists ruined the word "liberal". Real liberals were men like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Alexis de Tocqueville, John Madison, and George Mason.

Collectivist, authoritarian Leftists- so-called "liberals" and progressives - are the enemy of Liberty, and of those who live by Liberty's law.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: jukin on May 20, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
Do NOT use the word liberal when describing todays leftists. The two words have nothing in common.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: Rebel on May 20, 2013, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: Big Dog on May 19, 2013, 05:06:07 PM
Modern Leftists ruined the word "liberal". Real liberals were men like John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Alexis de Tocqueville, John Madison, and George Mason.

Collectivist, authoritarian Leftists- so-called "liberals" and progressives - are the enemy of Liberty, and of those who live by Liberty's law.

Exactly. They hijacked the term. Just about everyone on this board is a classical liberal on many issues. NO one at the DUmp, aside from the moles, are classical liberals.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: Celtic Rose on May 20, 2013, 10:53:47 AM
Consider that Liberal and Libertarian have the same root, then compare their philosophies.  The "Liberals" have corrupted the word quite freely.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 20, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: jukin on May 20, 2013, 08:14:57 AM
Do NOT use the word liberal when describing todays leftists. The two words have nothing in common.

Exactly. It is a misnomer. In many ways, the left is the reactionary.
Title: Re: The difference between liberals and "progressives".
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on May 20, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
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A true liberal does not bless dishonesty and corruption simply because it may aid his politics; the leftist does.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/339920.php
Ace was talking a little about this last week.