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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tess Anderson on May 17, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022857460#post115
She starts off posting some stupidity on wind energy, then:
Response to Scuba (Reply #6)
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
nadinbrzezinski (119,985 posts)
7. You go argue with PBS who ran this
http://climatide.wgbh.org/2011/03/why-not-to-dismiss-health-impacts-of-wind-turbines/
And you have never heard does not mean it has not happened.
Depending in the wind, I'll be kind it was 25, they fall, or fly upwards to a mile.
Anyway, go hug a turbine. There are solutions that involve wind that are not industrial. And roof top solar and distributive should be a much higher part of the basket. It is not because it goes against the distribution model utilities use.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:58 AM
MNBrewer (5,579 posts)
16. A mile????
Got any physics to back that up? I really don't believe that for one second.
Response to MNBrewer (Reply #16)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:08 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,985 posts)
24. I know you don't
Go hug a turbine
Response to Kali (Reply #62)
Fri May 17, 2013, 01:03 PM
maddezmom (130,727 posts)
64. Maybe someone can translate this because I have no f'ing clue
What she is trying to say here.
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Is she saying that a 25mph gust of wind will knock over a wind turbine?
:rotf:
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:lmao:
Vinnie From Indy (8,620 posts)
11. The OP is mildly amusing to me
The pearl clutching, ALL CAPS headline is funny to me. Even funnier are the people desperately trying to slow down the emergence of the new era of renewable energy at the behest of the oil industry.
LOL!
Response to Vinnie From Indy (Reply #11)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:00 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,985 posts)
18. Before you laugh too hard
Last edited Fri May 17, 2013, 12:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
The caps is the paper style sheet, I suggest you do research on who owns, ultimately, many of these projects around the world...it is not your local friendly company....but big energy...yup, Shelll, chevron, BP...
And by the way, why is it that these same companies, and in this case my local utility, are fighting rooftop solar? Those are questions those who are willing to sacrifice people in the back country, so they get their morning coffee...don't want to ask.
And it's been edited!
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KC
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Methane gas from composting DUmmie BS could power the world.
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Response to MNBrewer (Reply #16)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:08 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,985 posts)
24. I know you don't
Go hug a turbine
So should we now add sex worker to her resume?
Cindie
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Is this about the hundreds of Golden Eagles that have been killed on the West coast by wind turbines?
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Is this about the hundreds of Golden Eagles that have been killed on the West coast by wind turbines?
Wild life be damned.....we're saving the planet here.
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This is the fault of those at CC who vote for her every year for the DOTY, it's gone to her head and everyone around her has to suffer for it!
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Is this about the hundreds of Golden Eagles that have been killed on the West coast by wind turbines?
Never mind the other fact that Wind Power is an absolute loser.
Uh oh:
http://toryaardvark.com/2011/11/17/14000-abandoned-wind-turbines-in-the-usa/
DUMMIES, one more time.................if you HAVE to subsidize something to keep it afloat............IT DON'T WORK.
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Wind power also kills ptarmigans. On the flip side, gyrfalcons are killed. God's wrath in action. All gyrfalcons go to Hell and rot along side with bunnies, ermines, ground squirrels, and magpies. :fuelfire:
http://www.cww2011.nina.no/Portals/CWW2011/Presentations/CWW2011presentationHCP.pdf
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The irony here is that the bald dwarf could most likely stop a turbine by hugging it.
Stay overweight, my friends.
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This is the fault of those at CC who vote for her every year for the DOTY, it's gone to her head and everyone around her has to suffer for it!
Sorry, I don't see a down side to that. She savages the DUmpmonkeys, and we get great entertainment.
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Sorry, I don't see a down side to that. She savages the DUmpmonkeys, and we get great entertainment.
She's arrogant and the fame has gone to her head!
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For whatever reason she started another thread on this subject:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022859950
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Wow, she really expanded the iggy list in that thread.
Response to CreekDog (Reply #54)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:49 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,011 posts)
56. Yes, yes it is...
But hey, my ignore list can use another resident.
Have a long damn fracking life. Good bye
Response to winter is coming (Reply #164)
Fri May 17, 2013, 02:38 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,011 posts)
171. "I got some understanding of science, unlike you "
That is not only a personal attack, but a red herring. Attacking the person not ideas. Which is exactly what you just did.
I do get it how science works. I also get how the ignore list works. You are welcome to it.
Good bye.
Response to Progressive dog (Reply #192)
Fri May 17, 2013, 03:06 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,011 posts)
197. I will wait the decade or so for research
To come in.
Free clue it's not the wind that might be the causative element here it is related to the blades...highly unlikely in my opinion, but I will wait for them to actually like shit, look at it under the scientific microscope. Lord knows I have been wrong in the past and that one made sense.
What we know is, for the moment, is there is a cluster...as to the why? We have no conclusive evidence yet.
But hey, you too will tell me I got no clue how this shit works. So preemptively, I think the iggy last will get another member.
God bye
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Does someone want to tell Nads that "igg" does NOT wish them into the Cornfield?
(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/blog/2009/10/03/twilight-zone-billy-mumy-go.jpg)
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God bye
:???:
(http://asymptotia.com/wp-images/2006/11/carina_hst.jpg)
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For whatever reason she started another thread on this subject:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022859950
MindPilot (10,789 posts)
11. I fail to see the problem
So some piece of new technology equipment breaks, and the company that made it moves quickly to mitigate the problem by idling any other pieces of equipment that may have the same problem while the work on a fix.
Sounds like they have done everything right.
I dare you to say that about any form of petroleum recovery.
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I'm still confused about something.
Those primitives with a star on Skins's island can have as long an "ignore list" as they wish.
Those primitives without a star are limited as to how many other primitives they can put on "ignore."
The cousin doesn't have a star.
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I'm still confused about something.
Those primitives with a star on Skins's island can have as long an "ignore list" as they wish.
Those primitives without a star are limited as to how many other primitives they can put on "ignore."
The cousin doesn't have a star.
I think her iggy list is written down. She doesn't use the ignore function because she really wants to know what those people are saying.
I read somewhere that if wind and solar were actually used to provide all the electricity needed, that they would have a greater effect on the climate than coal and gas does.
Setting up huge wind farms where the winds blow the most would have an effect on the winds themselves. The same would happen with solar panels, covering vast areas with reflective panels would have to have a deleterious effect.
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I'm still confused about something.
Those primitives with a star on Skins's island can have as long an "ignore list" as they wish.
Those primitives without a star are limited as to how many other primitives they can put on "ignore."
The cousin doesn't have a star.
Someone pointed that out in one of her posts a while back, she responded that she has a method to "creatively ignore" posters that she doesn't like.
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Why hasn't sabrina (the 1 with the ice skates avatar) come to Nads defense?
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Someone pointed that out in one of her posts a while back, she responded that she has a method to "creatively ignore" posters that she doesn't like.
Thanks for the illumination, sir.
But it's really odd; she comes over here to read them too.....which of course the cousin's free to do; we're here as a public service.
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Sorry, I don't see a down side to that. She savages the DUmpmonkeys, and we get great entertainment.
She always in meltdown mode.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #175)
Fri May 17, 2013, 02:48 PM
MNBrewer (5,579 posts)
180. Well whose talking points are YOU repeating?
Where do you get all this bs crapola? Whose money is paying for the sources you cite?
I only have a PhD from UC Berkeley, so what do I know, right?
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Response to MNBrewer (Reply #180)
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:48 PM
Star Member Rex (34,524 posts)
234. You cannot compete with someone that has 50 degrees.
And a 100 professions.
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Response to Rex (Reply #234)
Fri May 17, 2013, 05:29 PM
pintobean (8,936 posts)
248. 50 degrees
is 40 degrees from being right
They're stomping the bald dwarf skinny.
piratefish08 (3,028 posts)
14. is it leaking radiation into the ground or the atmosphere yet?
if not, it sill seems like a safer option than the alternative when it breaks.
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Response to piratefish08 (Reply #14)
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:56 AM
nadinbrzezinski (120,028 posts)
15. Ten years you will eat those words
We already have initial work up into a cancer cluster in Campo, locally.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #15)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:01 PM
MNBrewer (5,579 posts)
19. What mechanism do you propose for wind turbines to cause cancer?
Bad juju?
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Wind turbines cause squeamish carcinoma. DUmmy Bennyboy recently discovered that can be cured by smoking huge quantities of pot. In the literature it's referred to as the "doobie cure".
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She keeps this up and the only person who won't be on ignore is Nads.
Cindie
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She keeps this up and the only person who won't be on ignore is Nads.
Cindie
Hopefully she takes her own advice and hugs a turbine. :-)
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She keeps this up and the only person who won't be on ignore is Nads.
Cindie
That wouldn't change anything for two reasons:
first, she pays no attention to what the other DUmmies say.
secondly, when she puts DUmmies on ignore it doesn't stop her reading what they write.
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That wouldn't change anything for two reasons:
first, she pays no attention to what the other DUmmies say.
secondly, when she puts DUmmies on ignore it doesn't stop her reading what they write.
Himmmmmm, going back to the late 50's the plant a tree in Israel seemed to work. Somehow the trees brought in moisture, rain the desert had not seen in years.
Wind mills that cause birds to die, better then causing the death of humans.
What ever we have to adapt or die, be we animals or humans. Fine and well to depend on solar energy in the south where it is available year round. In the North where we have 7 months of winter we need to adapt to windmills and tidal power.
Mid west why on earth are the people not harnessing methane from the hog pens, the cow pens to at least supply for their own operation.
Comes down to big city's that have these sewage treatment centers, can they not use human waste to create methane to power some of the city ??
Money, oh yes it takes money to implement all this. I wonder what would have happend if the money to build telegraph poles and the system been shot down because of money. Who financed the rail road system to span east to west, or who got it into their heads to expand the telephone system ?
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Is she saying that a 25mph gust of wind will knock over a wind turbine?
:rotf:
That would explain why there are none of those things in Las Vegas. A breezy day here is 25 mph. haha
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She's lost her fracking mind.
Uh, nads? You want to know who owns and is building a lot of those wind farms? The company I work for is one. However, I'm not exactly on board with wind and solar for a couple of very good reasons: 1--the tax subsidies are far in excess of any other forms of power, 2--the availability of these forms compared to other "baseline" means of generation, to put it nicely, SUCKS. Also, there's a long and growing list of folks who have put in turbines who are taking them out of service because of noise, etc., concerns as well as the fact they cost far more than initially promised.
Now finally, as to your question as to why utilities are against rooftop solar, perhaps you could explain the concept of "backfeeding" to me. Or perhaps how several sources in parallel can in fact cause voltage and hence grid instability, etc...yeah, I'm guessing you're reading this and mouthing the words as you go along. Nevermind.
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She's lost her fracking mind.
Uh, nads? You want to know who owns and is building a lot of those wind farms? The company I work for is one. However, I'm not exactly on board with wind and solar for a couple of very good reasons: 1--the tax subsidies are far in excess of any other forms of power, 2--the availability of these forms compared to other "baseline" means of generation, to put it nicely, SUCKS. Also, there's a long and growing list of folks who have put in turbines who are taking them out of service because of noise, etc., concerns as well as the fact they cost far more than initially promised.
Now finally, as to your question as to why utilities are against rooftop solar, perhaps you could explain the concept of "backfeeding" to me. Or perhaps how several sources in parallel can in fact cause voltage and hence grid instability, etc...yeah, I'm guessing you're reading this and mouthing the words as you go along. Nevermind.
Didn't some state pass a law requiring power companies to give credit for excess electricity backfed into the grid?
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Didn't some state pass a law requiring power companies to give credit for excess electricity backfed into the grid?
I believe that NYS allows for that. I could be wrong. I've wanted to find out.
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She's lost her fracking mind.
Uh, nads? You want to know who owns and is building a lot of those wind farms? The company I work for is one. However, I'm not exactly on board with wind and solar for a couple of very good reasons: 1--the tax subsidies are far in excess of any other forms of power, 2--the availability of these forms compared to other "baseline" means of generation, to put it nicely, SUCKS. Also, there's a long and growing list of folks who have put in turbines who are taking them out of service because of noise, etc., concerns as well as the fact they cost far more than initially promised.
Now finally, as to your question as to why utilities are against rooftop solar, perhaps you could explain the concept of "backfeeding" to me. Or perhaps how several sources in parallel can in fact cause voltage and hence grid instability, etc...yeah, I'm guessing you're reading this and mouthing the words as you go along. Nevermind.
Sparky, you post as if she cared about facts.
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Sparky, you post as if she cared about facts.
How's the expression go? Those of you who think you know everything annoy the **** out of those of us who do?
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Didn't some state pass a law requiring power companies to give credit for excess electricity backfed into the grid?
I think N.C. has such a law but I was told there was just to much paper work to worry about it.....just hope to get a $0 bill for electricity.
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I'm still trying to figure out how a home solar system can provide enough power for the house without a battery nearly as big as said house. :???:
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I'm still trying to figure out how a home solar system can provide enough power for the house without a battery nearly as big as said house. :???:
In shifts, of course... The same way nad goes from place to place...
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Gnads has a new champion in the Ida Briggs Primitive http://www.democraticunderground.com/12591778 Sabrina Number has fallen down on the job.
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The San Diego Union Tribune (an actual paper that pays it's reporters), ran a story on this today http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/may/20/wind-turbine-mystery/. If you scroll down the comments you'll see that moonbat Miriam Raftery, AKA DUmmie Liberty Belle, had to get in a plug for east county magazine. I was hoping that she would comment on the screaming tree coyotes (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022859950#post147), but she failed to do so.
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The San Diego Union Tribune (an actual paper that pays it's reporters), ran a story on this today http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/may/20/wind-turbine-mystery/. If you scroll down the comments you'll see that moonbat Miriam Raftery, AKA DUmmie Liberty Belle, had to get in a plug for east county magazine. I was hoping that she would comment on the screaming tree coyotes (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022859950#post147), but she failed to do so.
"Screaming Tree Coyotes"-
What a great name for a band!
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5f561Y1x4[/youtube]
No coyotes but these guys rock