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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on May 17, 2013, 07:49:46 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014484928
Thu May 16, 2013, 12:51 PM
thatsrightimirish (1,391 posts)
FEMA Plans Clear-Cutting 85,000 Berkeley and Oakland Trees
Source: California Progress Report
"The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is moving to chop down 22,000 trees in Berkeley's historic Strawberry and Claremont Canyons and over 60,000 more in Oakland. This destructive plan is rapidly moving forward with little publicity, and FEMA cleverly scheduled its three public meetings for mid and late May while UC Berkeley students were in finals or gone for the summer.
UC Berkeley has applied for the grant to destroy the bucolic Strawberry and Claremont Canyon areas, claiming that the trees pose a fire hazard. The school has no plans to replant, and instead will cover 20% of the area in wood chips two feet deep. And it will pour between 700 and 1400 gallons of herbicide to prevent re-sprouting, including the highly toxic herbicide, Roundup. People are mobilizing against this outrageous proposal, which UC Berkeley has done its best to keep secret."
Read more: http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/site/fema-plans-clear-cutting-85000-berkeley-and-oakland-trees
Response to thatsrightimirish (Original post)
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:00 PM
byeya (1,883 posts)
3. WTF. I am ignorant of any details but this sounds like one of the worst ideas yet
:lol: :lol: :lol:
This could apply to any subject that DUmmies post about.
Response to enough (Reply #4)
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
truedelphi (25,914 posts)
7. I hae particpated in citizen protests against some of the
Government's "non native species" requests to do in dozens if not hundreds of trees. Back when eucalyptus tress were threatened in West Marin Calif.
In reading over one EIS, the paper blithely stated that the baby birds and other critters depending on the trees would simply locate to other trees. Note how these activities are done in the early part of the year, when there can be flegling owls etc.
In one case, the trees were the only trees for about six or seven miles. How is a fledling bird going to move from its nest to a tree down the road? Call up its llmo driver?
Take a bus. Better for the environment.
Response to thatsrightimirish (Original post)
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:13 PM
upaloopa (2,064 posts)
5. Time for some 60's style sit-ins and student riots
Come on millennials let's get tough it's not like the school doesn't have a history of ignoring student demands.
Response to thatsrightimirish (Original post)
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:23 PM
pansypoo53219 (9,308 posts)
11. sounds like a corpse of engineers plan. stupid.
Is that a quote from obama?
Response to thatsrightimirish (Original post)
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:16 AM
Yo_Mama (3,629 posts)
40. So FEMA is becoming the disaster-creating agency?
Wood chips two feet thick have to be a very severe fire hazard. I guess it will be a comfort when the smoldering chips release herbicide fumes for a zesty environmental aromatherapy.
I'm from GA. We have peat fires that burn for years. They can be ignited by lightning, and then the fire smolders along. When the wind picks up and the conditions are right, the fire takes off again.
Firebreaks? Is there no moderation possible? Have you folks out there been letting these people hit the medical marijuana too hard?
No expert reporting by the gNads as of yet.
Pics of tree occupiers.
https://www.google.com/search?q=berkeley+students+occupy+trees+pic&client=firefox-a&hs=UW0&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9SGWUbq6OIfziQL5tIGoAg&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1153&bih=596#imgrc=_
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...and they wonder why they have so many wildfires in California.
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Thu May 16, 2013, 12:51 PM
thatsrightimirish (1,391 posts)
FEMA Plans Clear-Cutting 85,000 Berkeley and Oakland Trees
Source: California Progress Report
"The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is moving to chop down 22,000 trees in Berkeley's historic Strawberry and Claremont Canyons and over 60,000 more in Oakland. This destructive plan is rapidly moving forward with little publicity, and FEMA cleverly scheduled its three public meetings for mid and late May while UC Berkeley students were in finals or gone for the summer.
But FEMA IS the government, right? Government is infallible, is always right, and has our best interest at heart, RIGHT?
UC Berkeley has applied for the grant to destroy the bucolic Strawberry and Claremont Canyon areas, claiming that the trees pose a fire hazard.
No shit, Sherlock!
The school has no plans to replant, and instead will cover 20% of the area in wood chips two feet deep. And it will pour between 700 and 1400 gallons of herbicide to prevent re-sprouting, including the highly toxic herbicide, Roundup.
So now, instead of future liptards lighting up in their rooms, they can all drive out to the Strawberry and Claremont Canyon areas whenever there's a fire, and just breathe.
BRILLIANT!!! :lmao: :cheersmate: :lmao:
Best idea that's come out of Berkeley in 50 years!!!
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For poetic justice, can Berkley make it a parking lot? Maybe with pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' hot spot?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t79hUuE2vuI[/youtube]
:fuelfire: :lol:
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The funny/ ironic thing is that both of the major players involved in this plan, FEMA and U- Cal-Berkeley, epitomize ultra- liberalism in different ways (FEMA= Ultra- Liberal government agency, Cal- Berkeley= Ultra- liberal academia). But don't forget, it's REALLY those evil conservatives that want to deliberately destroy the environment out of greed and just for the fun of it! Sarc.
I don't know a lot of the specifics in this case, and forgive my ignorance, but it seems like a 2-feet deep layer of wood chips wouldn't be much less of a fire hazard than the trees. The only advantage I can think of in that regard is that that they aren't as tall as trees and thus are less likely to be struck by lightning.
"5. Time for some 60's style sit-ins and student riots"
1. But don't forget, it's REALLY those evil conservative Tea Party groups that openly encourage violence, lawlessness, and terrorism!
2. The last time Cal- Berkeley hippy freaks tried to save trees from being cut down through "Civil disobedience" (The tree-sitters a few years back), the trees got cut down anyway, and the hippy freaks were exposed for the psychotic idiots that they are.
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Wood chips 2 foot deep over 20% of the area.......and how many trees will they have to take down to generate 2 feet of wood chips?
SAVE THE TREES......WIPE YOUR ASS WITH PLASTIC
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SAVE THE TREES......WIPE YOUR ASS WITH PLASTIC
They're hippies remember?
SAVE THE TREES......DON'T WIPE YOUR ASS
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Save a tree... wipe your ass with a liberal.
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OK, DUmmies, lets look at this. Probably the issue is too much under-growth caused by 100+ years of fire fighting/ prevention. The clearing of too many trees combined with wood chipping the area to prevent brush from growing back is good forest management. But no, you loons want to "save" the area so that the next wildfire is so bad there will be NO WAY to stop it.
Oh, about Roundup, it prevents plants from growing. A little Google Fu goes a long way.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/question357.htm
Idiots.
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Look at all of the fomenting anti-government propaganda.
The IRS ought to audit every last one of the traitors.
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Look at all of the fomenting anti-government propaganda.
The IRS ought to audit every last one of the traitors.
Well played, sir, well played.
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Those trees are going to freak out. :o :lmao: :rotf: