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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on June 12, 2008, 05:35:52 PM
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 04:29 PM
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Is it time to increase the size of the Supreme Court?
Today's 5-4 Habeas decision has got me thinking: Congress has the power to fix the size of the Supreme Court. Perhaps the Democrats should use their new embiggened majority to give President Obama a couple more appointments in 2009.
Of course, there's that little detail of winning the election, but I think we need to start thinking BIG about rolling back 28 years of conservative rule.
These guys are not only stupid, but dangerous.
Vincardog (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 04:32 PM
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2. I think we could use another 4 justices. Maybe Gore Nader Edwards and a heartburn to be named later
Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 04:37 PM
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5. So I guess you'll be in favor of increasing the size as well if McCain wins?
....crickets chirping....
Didn't think so.
Those are TS words.
jgraz (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 04:42 PM
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6. Of course I ****ing won't be in favor of that. What's your point?
Hypocrtie.
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We've been under "conservative rule" the past 28 years?
News to me.
And probably news to decent and civilized people all over, too.
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The DUmmies - in neglecting their study of history - have forgotten that their hero, Franklin Delano Friggin' Roosevelt already tried that during his administration. He tried to pack the court with his appointees so that his "Progressive" agenda could sail through without a challenge from the Supreme Court. His magic number back then was 13. Congress thought "not so much"...
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merh (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 05:10 PM
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13. No, it's time to impeach the bastards on the Court that keep
pissing on the constitution and the nation.
Agreed, we can start with Ginsburg.
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What if the congress added seats to the supreme court and the current court, in a 5-4 ruling, decided that was unconstitutional, or just didn't like it so struck down the law?
I don't get why we even have elections if the Supremes can just make any law they want.
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What would eventually happen is that several of the liberal Justices would croak during a 8 year run of a conservative President, changing the court heavily in favor of the Republican appointments.
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Maybe we should just give the terrorist sumbitches ankle bracelets, a date of appearance, and release'em into moonbat areas like Berkeley. :whatever:
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The DUmmies - in neglecting their study of history - have forgotten that their hero, Franklin Delano Friggin' Roosevelt already tried that during his administration. He tried to pack the court with his appointees so that his "Progressive" agenda could sail through without a challenge from the Supreme Court. His magic number back then was 13. Congress thought "not so much"...
Not only that.
This was in 1937, when Franklin Roosevelt enjoyed near-dictatorial powers over Congress.
After the elections of 1936, the Senate (then 96 senators) had 78 Democrats, and the House (435 congressmen), 346 Democrats.
There were only 18 Republican U.S. Senators and 89 Republican U.S. Representatives.
And Congress still wouldn't let him name more justices.
I don't think, with good cause, the primitives know shit about politics.
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The DUmmies - in neglecting their study of history - have forgotten that their hero, Franklin Delano Friggin' Roosevelt already tried that during his administration. He tried to pack the court with his appointees so that his "Progressive" agenda could sail through without a challenge from the Supreme Court. His magic number back then was 13. Congress thought "not so much"...
Not only that.
This was in 1937, when Franklin Roosevelt enjoyed near-dictatorial powers over Congress.
After the elections of 1936, the Senate (then 96 senators) had 78 Democrats, and the House (435 congressmen), 346 Democrats.
There were only 18 Republican U.S. Senators and 89 Republican U.S. Representatives.
And Congress still wouldn't let him name more justices.
I don't think, with good cause, the primitives know shit about politics.
Of course that was back when the Congress wasn't entirely populated with raving moonbats on the D-side, and simpering appeasers on the R-side.
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Sure, why not ?? And while your at it DUmbasses, why not recut the states as well ? Merge the Midwestern ones together, and cut the Liberal ones in to dozens of pieces so you'll have a permanent win situation for all elections via EC ? Wouldn't that be 'teh awesome ?'
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The DUmbasses are using the increased population and "diversity" of the country since the mid-19th century as a reason to increased the number of SC justices. With that reasoning in mind, I suggest we pack the White House with three more presidents, the senate should be increased to three hundred senators, and the house should have thirty thousand districts. I also suggest all these august people, which the exception of the four presidents, should be unpaid elected or appointed volunteers, and they must all maintain other employment. I suggest congress be limited to meet in session for three weeks each yearly quarter. The Supreme Court should meet once a year for the month of August.
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Sure, why not ?? And while your at it DUmbasses, why not recut the states as well ? Merge the Midwestern ones together, and cut the Liberal ones in to dozens of pieces so you'll have a permanent win situation for all elections via EC ? Wouldn't that be 'teh awesome ?'
Well that aint gonna work.
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KevinJ (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-07-08 02:15 PM
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Nelson bill would abolish Electoral College
Source: The Hill
Nelson bill would abolish Electoral College
By Michael O'Brien
Posted: 06/06/08 05:18 PM
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) introduced a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral College on Friday, less than a week after the Democrats settled on how to handle delegates from Florida at their national convention.
“It’s time for Congress to really give Americans the power of one-person, one-vote, instead of the political machinery selecting candidates and electing our president,†Nelson said in a release announcing the amendment.
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Nelson said his principal argument for making the change is that the Electoral College permits a candidate with fewer votes nationally to win the presidency by capturing narrow victories in big states. In 2000, then-Vice President Al Gore won the popular votes but George W. Bush won the Electoral College.
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Legislation to abolish the Electoral College is not entirely foreign to the 110 Congress. Reps. Gene Green (D-Texas) and Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) introduced similar amendments in the House in early 2007.
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They are a frightening bunch of totalitarins in waiting.
If Obama wins this fall at least it will be funny watching the hysteria on the island when he doesn`t hand them by fiat everything they dream of.
I don`t know if there really is a word to describe the combination of idiocy,mental defect and immaturity that is on display daily.
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merh (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 05:10 PM
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13. No, it's time to impeach the bastards on the Court that keep
pissing on the constitution and the nation.
Agreed, we can start with Ginsburg.
Hell, seems like they would be eager to shitcan the entire Constitution to suit their needs.
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I don`t know if there really is a word to describe the combination of idiocy,mental defect and immaturity that is on display daily.
Kuckkukkensheim does the job.
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-12-08 04:42 PM
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6. Of course I ******* won't be in favor of that. What's your point?
The point is you :censored: moron is that he nailed you on your no so veiled desire to ONLY stack the deck in your favor.
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The Supreme Court is fine at 9. It's stupid to want to increase it b/c they're not doing what you want them to do.
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The Supreme Court is fine at 9. It's stupid to want to increase it b/c they're not doing what you want them to do.
Well....we could increase the number of justices to ten, and institute a duelling policy to break the ties......that should turn them over a bit quicker......
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