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Title: Impeachment
Post by: Revolution on May 08, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
We all know what we want, but here's your chance to tell the forum what you think, and why? I know the answer I want to ear, but with society the way it is nowdays, I'm thinking this thing could go on until Obama is OUT of office in '16.

With Hilary's comment, and the idiot congressman's comments today, and the other testimony that went on today, there should be no question what happens.

Both of those show a complete lack of compassion, courage, testicular fortitude, caring, and general acourtesy. They covered it up so the messiah of the left could get a victory. Appear "strong" on terrorism. (which, they don't call it terrorism anyway. That's insensitive. It's "workplace violence") In reality, they blamed a video over, and over, and over again when everybody with half a brain knows that it was a planned attack aimed at Americans, and diplomats on 9/11/12. Gee...why would that date be significant?

Cliton already fell on the sword, but there's still plenty of blade. Barry himself absolutely will not testify. That's just a fever dream of mine. However, if he did, it'd be over for him.

What say you?
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: thundley4 on May 08, 2013, 11:27:05 PM
It would be a waste of time for the House to impeach him, the Senate would never convict.  Obama could say on national TV that he gave the order to stand down knowing that those people would die, and that he did it for political reasons, and the Senate would carry his water.


Then there is the fact that riots would break out in almost every liberal hell hole.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Big Dog on May 08, 2013, 11:38:46 PM
No chance.

Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Revolution on May 09, 2013, 12:43:58 AM
It would be a waste of time for the House to impeach him, the Senate would never convict.  Obama could say on national TV that he gave the order to stand down knowing that those people would die, and that he did it for political reasons, and the Senate would carry his water.


Then there is the fact that riots would break out in almost every liberal hell hole.

The problem with that would be...?
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: thundley4 on May 09, 2013, 01:22:32 AM
The problem with that would be...?

The problem is that so many of those areas would be left uninhabitable and people would move into red areas.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Freeper on May 09, 2013, 05:21:16 AM
Anyone who thinks that 0bama will suffer any consequences from this is just lying to themselves. The media has 0bama's back, the media has Hillary's back. Then you also have the democrat party that will circle the wagons big time around them, and end up making those who speak out against them the criminals.

Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: ColonelCarrots on May 09, 2013, 05:29:04 AM
Shoulda read the question first before answering (Let's hope I did well on my finals). I'd like to change my yes to no. He should be, but he won't be.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: cmypay on May 09, 2013, 06:26:23 AM
Agree he should be...but he should have been over other things too (Fast and Furious), so I voted No, he won't be
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: A7X_foREVer on May 09, 2013, 06:31:11 AM
Would love it but it won't happen
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 09, 2013, 07:04:33 AM
The problem is that so many of those areas would be left uninhabitable and people would move into red areas.

Put a fence around the area and guard towers on the corners......they made the mess, let them live in it.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 09, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
It would be a waste of time for the House to impeach him, the Senate would never convict

Also why there will never even be a Special Counsel investigation of the cover-up.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 09, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
He should be, but not likely. Interesting the House managed to impeach Clinton back in 1998 to 1999. The Senate voted not to. Clinton's problem was that he lied about having an affair with Lewinsky and they say covering up is worse. Had Clinton came clean nothing would of happened. What Obama did is much worse than Clinton.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 09, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
Anyone who thinks that 0bama will suffer any consequences from this is just lying to themselves. The media has 0bama's back, the media has Hillary's back. Then you also have the democrat party that will circle the wagons big time around them, and end up making those who speak out against them the criminals.



They are like the Mafia, but worse.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: A7X_foREVer on May 09, 2013, 10:01:59 AM
They are like the Mafia, but worse.


Chicago style Mob
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Dori on May 09, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
Also why there will never even be a Special Counsel investigation of the cover-up.

Not with Boehner in charge of the House.  We need a new Speaker.

There are several things that need to be investigated further and people need to be held accountable;  We need the following documented and those in charge need to be fired.

Why was Amb. Stevens even in Benghazi in the first place? 
Why were the requests for security denied, and worse, why was their security reduced, and left up to locals to defend the compound? 
Who made those decisions knowing about the prior attacks and terrorists in the area? 
Why did Hillary blame the security problems on the guy who requested the security when she was the one who denied and reduced it?

Why did the State department say that the attack was caused by a terrorist attack on the 12th (day after) and then change that for the talking points?  Why wasn't there any assests in place to protect the embassy? 
Who made the decision and told Lt. Gen. Benson to stand down, twice, and not go into Benghazi? 
Why weren't aircraft ordered to fly in? 
There were three attacks that went on for hours and the military had no idea at the time how long the attack was going to last.  There were 60 people in the compound at the time.

Hicks testified that there was collusion between their local security and the al Qaeda related group that attacked the compound. 
Why did Susan Rice counter what the interm President of Libya said about it being a terrorist attack and throw him under the bus and embarass him? 

Why did it take 19 days to get the FBI into Benghazi? 
Why wasn't the Embassy secured right away? 
Why did Hillary and Obama stand on the caskets of the returning Amb. and those killed in the attack and deliberately lie and blame the video? 

Why did Cindy Crowley run intereference for Obama during his debate with 
Romney?  What did she know?

If Hillary hadn't followed the Obama policy of political correctness, secured the Benghazi embassy or closed it and taken her job seriously, this disaster wouldn't have happened. 
Why did Hillary send a minder with the Reps who went to investigate? 
Why was Hicks not permitted to talk to the investigators without Hillary's minder present? 
What are we, North Korea?

I just see a whole lot of derelection of duty going on here, CYA and outright lying going on. 
Hundreds of people knew the truth.  Why are there only three whistleblowers? 
How many more people have been threatened by this Administration? 

I have more questions, but I'll stop now  :mad:

Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 09, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
Not with Boehner in charge of the House.  We need a new Speaker.

That does't even come into play, the Senate has to be involved for an SC to be appointed, we could have a Conservative wet dream for a Speaker and it wouldn't change anything.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Dori on May 09, 2013, 11:31:52 AM
That does't even come into play, the Senate has to be involved for an SC to be appointed, we could have a Conservative wet dream for a Speaker and it wouldn't change anything.

Boehner had a press thingy this morning and the media was expecting him to at least call for a special council,  but he didn't.

Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: A7X_foREVer on May 09, 2013, 01:36:05 PM
Boehner had a press thingy this morning and the media was expecting him to at least call for a special council,  but he didn't.




He was in a corner crying didn't want the press to see his puffy eyes
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: chitownchica on May 09, 2013, 03:45:51 PM
I watched the hearings yesterday and was so disgusted with the showboating of the Dems. The Ambassador, from what I've heard, was a Dem, and these asshats gleefully made mockery of the whole situation. One of their own was completely abandoned, but all they care about is keeping power.  I can't imagine what the families and friends are going through right now. They see Democrats laughing it off like it's no big deal.

I don't think he will be impeached. However, Killary's White House aspirations are somewhat stained by this news. In a cage match between Billy Jeff Clinton and Obama's thugs, I think Clinton would win.  If this story is somehow kept alive, I kind of expect secrets the Clintons know to come to light.  I'm surely kidding myself,  but with their history of dirty dealings, I'm hoping that Bill's people start talking. 

A girl can dream...
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 09, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
There would be no point to impeachment because the Senate is all Dim.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 09, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
I watched the hearings yesterday and was so disgusted with the showboating of the Dems. The Ambassador, from what I've heard, was a Dem, and these asshats gleefully made mockery of the whole situation. One of their own was completely abandoned, but all they care about is keeping power...

I don't refer to them as DemonRats for nothing.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Chris_ on May 09, 2013, 10:30:11 PM
I watched some of it yesterday and saw Hastings try to derail the questioning with minor garbage about admitting documents into evidence.  Sure, it was only five minutes, but it was still a five minute lecture from an impeached former judge about admitting papers into evidence that didn't need to happen.  That much was evident. 

I'm really not surprised when I hear that the Congressional Black Caucus has more members under investigation than any other group in the House.  These guys are as corrupt as it gets.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: chitownchica on May 10, 2013, 03:54:11 AM
I don't refer to them as DemonRats for nothing.

Good point :).
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Rebel on May 10, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
There would be no point to impeachment because the Senate is all Dim.

The house impeaches. There wouldn't be a conviction though.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 10, 2013, 05:50:34 PM
The house impeaches. There wouldn't be a conviction though.
Yeah, that's why I said there would be no point to impeachment because the senate is run by dims.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: chitownchica on May 10, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
My thoughts on this are starting to change now that the MSM is running with the Benghazi story. Additionally, the IRS admission of targeting conservative groups during the election is gaining traction.  Jay Carney pissed off the WH press corp earlier by delaying the regular press conference for an invitation-only press conference. I don't know who was invited, but many weren't. 

Perhaps we won't see impeachment, but I think this is going to cause him serious problems.

Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: delilahmused on May 10, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
As more and more comes out and the regime continues to try to withhold informations, fight subpoenas (there's some tough guys on that committee that won't drop this), it could affect the midterms. Keep in mind, the dems are politicizing this, not the republicans. It's pretty obvious, even to the low information idiots. They keep up with their attitudes, poo pooing the deaths of these men, it might even affect a few senate races. When McCain & Graham are against them, you know they have a problem.

I think thos witnesses were 0bamas "blue dress" moment. Regardless of how har the left tried, they couldn't make these men look bad, vindictive or partisan, tho they managed to make themselves look that way.

If the house keeps pushing in spite of the obvious criticism they'll get, this could be a train wreck for the boy king and his thugs. And Issa doesn't give a rat's ass what they say about him.

Cindie
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: chitownchica on May 10, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
Jay Carney kept bringing up the CIA during the press conference today. He also tried blaming Romney.  :rotf:

It's obvious the dude is desperate,  but I don't think I'd keep throwing the CIA under the bus. They know where his skeletons are.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Freeper on May 10, 2013, 08:04:17 PM
Jay Carney kept bringing up the CIA during the press conference today. He also tried blaming Romney.  :rotf:

It's obvious the dude is desperate,  but I don't think I'd keep throwing the CIA under the bus. They know where his skeletons are.

How in the hell is this Romney's fault?

Lord they are desperate.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: chitownchica on May 10, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
How in the hell is this Romney's fault?

Lord they are desperate.

It's really hilarious.  Jay's wife Claire Shipman (of ABC news) can't even get him out of this one.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Flufferlie on May 10, 2013, 09:33:29 PM

Obama can't get through a month without blaming someone else.
He might get impeached for Benghazi if it goes farther....if he lets it fester and keeps denying. (Like he is doing at the moment)
But he won't get convicted in the Senate.
He might pull a Nixon and resign....doubt it though.
We can hope for a ugly stain on his administration, the democrats and Hillary that will last a long while.
I just have this nagging feeling his house of cards are falling. His media is starting to jump ship....he is sinking fast.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Evil_Conservative on May 10, 2013, 10:29:24 PM
I'd like to say, "Yes"... but it's not going to happen.  :(
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: longview on May 10, 2013, 11:12:40 PM
Should be, but won't be.
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Revolution on May 11, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR8IxtS1AiY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

I absolutely LOVE this! When MSNBC is discussing that "I" word with maybe their favorite Dem ever in the highest office in the land, you know it's bad, bad, bad! :hyper:
Title: Re: Impeachment
Post by: Carl on May 11, 2013, 04:59:24 AM
He won`t be until or unless the stench of his Administration threatens the political future of dems in Congress and at that point it won`t be us calling for it.

Impeachment is a political remedy with a somewhat vague threshold to meet.
The treason I believe he committed certainly should rise to it but even in that I would be more inclined to seek legal remedy post Presidency.
My reason is that short of such a smoking gun as to create instantly the first situation I mentioned the whole process will become a spectacle that overshadows the issue...it has to be clear to the idiot class what happened and even they have to be calling for it.

Also it would give us a President Biden,who (assuming this dragged on post 1/20/15) would be in line to possibly serve the remainder of this term plus 2 of his own.
As hard to imagine a public wanting that,given the demographics and mindset of a large portion of the population then who knows.

In short I just want the bastard politically emasculated and toxic.