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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on May 08, 2013, 07:52:26 PM
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You just knew we'd get an explanation of the Arias trial from the crazy bald dwarf.
Of course, she was too busy with Starbucks and grassfires to pay any attention, but she's still the world's foremost authority:
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:03 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
Why do people watch things like the Arias murder trial?
And why the networks cover this?
I admit, I could care less, but having been in the news bidnezz for a while, I am starting to get it. This is a sociological explanation.
The murder itself was horrific, her lies to get out of it, were also horrific. People identify with the victim, and want revenge on the victim. Ok, we call it justice and it might be justice.
The case itself is very complex. Don't ask me to even try to summarize because as I said I could care less, but it comes down to a very simplistic view, which is easy to understand. Somebody was killed, we have this person who did it, and we want justice. The details do not matter.
Gets worst, legislation at the state or federal level, again, no clear winners or losers, and usually they are complex, so unless you can appeal to emotions, such as the ACA, people really do not get it. Part of it, is the news media, be critical of it for a while. And one reason is that these stories are complex and take research to get them, and at times we don't get them fully.
But somebody asked here earlier, it's not just ratings. This is a really easy story to tell at this stage of the game, very easy. And it is something the reader, or the audience also gets... why people watch and care about this.
Once you understand this, it also explains why the press tends to bleed it leads. In skeleton news rooms I can tell that story... with just a few reporters... but the more complex stories... you need time, and you need effort, and you need to go look at info, from everywhere at times. Here is one for ya, many TV stations send must videographers to the field to cover the less important shit. They do not have the cub reporters any more to send them to the less important shit. This is how skeleton things are.
So this is why the Arias murder verdict is a gimme for the media. It is a really easy story to tell.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022816466
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:07 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
2. Wow, you created an OP with all those words just to tell us you don't care?
Well, that's some great journalism!
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:11 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
4. I had no time
and I know it had many complex moving parts (have covered a few local trials as well, ok trial is not the right word, the person pleaded guilty, so it was just plea entry and penalty phase)... but I can see why it is fascinating.
The legal system can be and for the state to prove first degree, ain't easy...
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #4)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:20 PM
Tx4obama (28,373 posts)
6. Well this case was pretty complicated.
She did say that she killed him but then she came up with a 'self-defense' story and the jury could have found her not guilty.
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #6)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:22 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
8. But in the end, as far as most who did not watch it
is concerned, first degree conviction, still to come penalty phase.
Her reaction today, she looked shocked to me, will be part of coming attractions
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #8)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:27 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
12. "Her reaction today, she looked shocked to me"
I thought you "could care less" and didn't watch it?
A new bully?
Response to zappaman (Reply #12)
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:10 PM
sad-cafe (611 posts)
50. she knew how the reaction was
don't forget Zappaman, she is all knowing
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:21 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
7. Most of the trials I have covered
have been civil, and you are right, the process is quite fascinating.
Hey, they are open trials, and that is a wonder of the American system. Court TV can save you some of that bother of going through security.
Resume update!! Crime reporter.
Another new bully?:
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:07 PM
obliviously (1,486 posts)
59. When you cover these stories fom home on Court TV
What is your favorite flavor of Cheez-its and beverage?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:24 PM
lillypaddle (3,090 posts)
10. Ask the family
of Travis Alexander if this was a worthless media event.
Nice to see such a lofty opinion.
Hope you and your family never face such a tragedy as this.
Response to lillypaddle (Reply #10)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:29 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
15. I told you why media covers these things
Not whether it's lofty or not.
It is what it is.
The other mostly easy beat to cover is the crime beat.
Watch bowling for Columbine for another high and mighty explanation of media manipulation.
Uh oh, DUmmy lillypaddle, now you've gone and done it! Straight to the iggy list for you!
Response to lillypaddle (Reply #25)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:47 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
26. Have a good life in my ignore list
Believe it or not, this is a meta level analysis of media, and this is not limited to the United States, so you could say humans are idiots, so it is Planet Earth Idiot.
Good bye.
Response to lillypaddle (Reply #28)
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:13 PM
sad-cafe (611 posts)
51. Lillypaddle, don't worry. She is all-knowing and much "smarter" than us
she knows shit she wishes she didn't
Don't worry, the rest of us are no where near her level of all-knowing
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #26)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:22 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
32. "this is a meta level analysis of media"
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:33 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
20. I would have to follow it, if this happened in my town
Otherwise, like you, I have no interest.
Though if I ever decide to get into crime procedurals I will have to spend some time in court watching vanilla flavor cases. Those tell you far more about the system than these high stakes cases.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:32 PM
Blue_Tires (31,496 posts)
19. Based on what little I know:
1. It has a lot of tawdry, salacious details, and the general timeline of events reads like a Lifetime Movie plot
2. The defendant is easy on the eyes
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #19)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:34 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
21. Yup on both
now I need to really look at Ad Valorem taxes. FUN.
Run along now. Nutcase nadin has important work to do.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:35 PM
Brickbat (14,240 posts)
23. "having been in the news bidnezz for a while,"
Kill me now.
Response to Brickbat (Reply #23)
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:39 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
24. Goes hand in hand with this...
"Right now on the teevee machine."
This is just the lexicon journalists are using these days.
You should read about it.
Have a great day!
Response to Brickbat (Reply #23)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:28 PM
DevonRex (19,780 posts)
33. And
The "nooz." Ugh. But nothing beats riffle for rifle. I thought my dear friend dionysus was gonna have a stroke over that one.
Response to DevonRex (Reply #33)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:31 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
34. Riffles have ridges!
Response to zappaman (Reply #38)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:46 PM
DevonRex (19,780 posts)
44. That is really deep.
May I steal it, pretty please with Hershey's Syrup on top?
Response to DevonRex (Reply #44)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:52 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
46. I could care less. n/t
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:34 PM
no_hypocrisy (25,286 posts)
Sensational trials sell papers and media time, almost validating the need for news.
Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #36)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:37 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
39. Yup, and they are easy as pie to cover
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #39)
Wed May 8, 2013, 06:44 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
42. Curious as to how many controversial trials you have covered.
Since you know "they are easy as pie to cover"....
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:20 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,624 posts)
43. I don't watch it either
But it is easy to cover.
As in damn easy. And doing background is almost not needed.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:57 PM
Apophis (718 posts)
56. You couldn't care less yet you write a long OP about it?
Hmmmm.
Response to Apophis (Reply #56)
Wed May 8, 2013, 08:04 PM
zappaman (8,225 posts)
58. Please don't misquote the OP
"I admit, I could care less, but having been in the news bidnezz for a while, I am starting to get it. This is a sociological explanation."
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Why do people watch things like the Arias murder trial?
And why the networks cover this?
The more important question is : Why didn't the media cover Gosnell and Benghazi?
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Nadine is as shallow as a kiddy pool
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The more important question is : Why didn't the media cover Gosnell and Benghazi?
Beat me to it by this --- >= much. :lmao:
Edit for a new one...
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:08 PM
sad-cafe (611 posts)
49. I should just consult you every morning so you can tell me what I should do and why
honestly,
do you ever get tired of knowing it all?
Oh hell no. :lmao:
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I sincerely hope gNads is one of those who looks at the posts she's ignored just to see what they're saying.
Court TV can save you some of that bother of going through security
For a master journalist/reporter, you sure are living in the past, and less than "up" on your info. CourtTV is now truTV, (http://www.trutv.com/index.html) DUmbass.
Get yer facts straight, mmmkay.
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DUmmy sad-cafe, one of the latest crop of bullies, comes up with an excellent new handle for the nutcase:
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #60)
Wed May 8, 2013, 09:40 PM
sad-cafe (612 posts)
72. really
your all-know-it-ness
what made you go off like that?
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:heart: zappaman!
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:lmao:
Brother Buzz (8,264 posts)
73. I remember her telling us repeatedly she was once a Marine, but I just read her revised resumé
We were wrong!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2738204
And you are claiming things I have not said I have done.
Fr example, I never claimed to be a trauma surgeon, you did.
I never claimed to be a ballistics expert, though extremely familiar due to shoo outs, you did.
I was an EMT-P and trained many EMT-11 to use American classifications.
You are claiming I am a nuclear physicist, I am not.
I was a first responder, trained in confined space, not in hazmat, became familiar with hazmat due to nature of the job, you are claiming more
I was an instructor, was behind the formation of a a school, you got a problem with that?
I ran my own gaming company for a while, you got trouble with that?
I am a,axed at how many things you have said I do
I am a reporter at present, with media card and everything.
My sister is a registered dietitian...amazing.
My husband is a postal worker, and I fully support the postal service
I am a published author, like it or not.
I also hold a masters in history.
Chiefly I see you are having the same issue a kid had in college...mostly envy. You too can learn shit. You might have heard if these things called books...read them from time to time before burning them. In the words of a famous American Historian, you must be an anti intellectual.
I won't bother with the rest of the things you chose to misrepresent or push, for your own desires. Welcome to my ignore list by the way, with the bullies and gun nuts.
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:heart: zappaman!
I love Zappaman too!! He is awesome!!
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I love how she says she's in the news business. She works for the freaking Penny Saver, for God's sake. That is NOT the news business. I'm sorry, bidnezz.
Wasn't she going to leave DU forever and ever about six months ago?
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obliviously (1,487 posts)
75. I've never meta analysis I didn't like!
:rimshot:
We really should have a "DU HoF" or a "Best of DUmb Threads" section to go along with The DUmpster, and MNS. :-)
This is absolutely fantastic.
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I never claimed to be a ballistics expert, though extremely familiar due to shoo outs, you did.
Guess I must be an expert too because I shoo animals out all the time.
Cindie
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Zappaman, Zappaman -
Bothers Nads, like noone can.
Hes on her list - he treats her bad,
Suffice it to say, he drives her mad.
Oh no ! Here comes the Zappaman !
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I admit, I could care less...and even the DUmmies wish you had.
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When I have legal questions, I ask attorneys. Not fat, bald, amateur idiots that think they're reporters. :whatever:
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Brickbat (14,240 posts)
23. "having been in the news bidnezz for a while,"
Kill me now.
zappaman (8,232 posts)
24. Goes hand in hand with this...
"Right now on the teevee machine."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022744299
This is just the lexicon journalists are using these days.
You should read about it.
Have a great day!
Heidi (56,684 posts)
90. In other breaking nooz, the all too familiar interjection, "ahem," has been inducted into
the Tedious Condescension Hall of Fame.
Back to you, zappaman!
EPIC! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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:lmao: You're right, that is EPIC!
I laughed at the "kill me now."
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Zappaman, Zappaman -
Bothers Nads, like noone can.
Hes on her list - he treats her bad,
Suffice it to say, he drives her mad.
Oh no ! Here comes the Zappaman !
Ever have a time when a light bulb goes on in your head ????? I think I know who Zappaman is.
Why it has to be Nads ever loving kind and patient Husband himself. I can see him plotting to drive her crazy every time she burns the meat loaf for dinner. I can picture him getting up 2 hours early for work and sneaking in to use the PC to taunt and bedevil that mill stone that he has been dragging about for years.
Still young he is and reasonably nice looking, his next wife will for sure be much different then Nads and he will never make the same mistake again of picking up a hooker in Mexico when drunk as a Lord and finding himself hitched to a strange female he met at a Donkey Sex Show.
Then again I have been wrong many times before and will be again in the future.
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Ever have a time when a light bulb goes on in your head ????? I think I know who Zappaman is.
Why it has to be Nads ever loving kind and patient Husband himself. I can see him plotting to drive her crazy every time she burns the meat loaf for dinner. I can picture him getting up 2 hours early for work and sneaking in to use the PC to taunt and bedevil that mill stone that he has been dragging about for years.
Still young he is and reasonably nice looking, his next wife will for sure be much different then Nads and he will never make the same mistake again of picking up a hooker in Mexico when drunk as a Lord and finding himself hitched to a strange female he met at a Donkey Sex Show.
Then again I have been wrong many times before and will be again in the future.
He married her. He can't be that bright, therefore he can't be Zappaman.
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He married her. He can't be that bright, therefore he can't be Zappaman.
Yes he married her, but that was when she was young, had hair and attractive. 30 years later she has changed as we all do, in looks, temperament and ideals. "People Change"-----Rod MC Quen poem from the 60's. --Sung by Glen Yardbrow of the Lime Lighters.
But naturally her husband may not have been so bright back then-----All the combat and shoot outs he saw and was involved in, 1,000 feet below the surface of the ocean. Poor man, then to come home to a wife he did not know. While he was involved in shoot outs his wife was also under siege being involved in land shoot outs as a Ambulance driver or what ever.
Obviously he did not Shit Can her----I wonder just how much money her family has to keep him hanging around ?
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Yes he married her, but that was when she was young, had hair and attractive.
Even a picture of someone older can reveal what that person may have looked like when they were younger. There is nothing about the bald dwarf that says "attractive", at ANY age.
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Even a picture of someone older can reveal what that person may have looked like when they were younger. There is nothing about the bald dwarf that says "attractive", at ANY age.
You must be allot better at this then I am. I see photos of complete strangers in their 20's and am shocked to find they are of people now in their 50's. that I am related to and see every day.
There are times I have seen pix of Hubby at 20 and ask him who is that man. Funny, about 15 years ago I was going through some old photo's and my grandson asked who was a man in one or two pictures. Why that is My hubby back then. No way, the child of 8 says, that man has black hair and no beard, he is skinny with no beer gut and has all their teeth.
Work place has photo IDS to get into the building and to clock in. My ID photo was a good 15 years old and this nasty female dog tells me, say whose ID is that, it looks nothing like you. All so true we do age, woman and men change hair styles and face shape changes We gain or lose weight and sooner or later the wrinkles, jaw jowls, and chicken necks arrive.
I can see how Nads must have been 20 years ago an attractive woman, 25 years ago young, most likely loved to dance and flirt.
Genes and DNA can do their worse on those ageing. Some spend a fortune to prevent the signs of ageing, others just except the natural way of change.
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You must be allot better at this then I am. I see photos of complete strangers in their 20's and am shocked to find they are of people now in their 50's. that I am related to and see every day.
There are times I have seen pix of Hubby at 20 and ask him who is that man. Funny, about 15 years ago I was going through some old photo's and my grandson asked who was a man in one or two pictures. Why that is My hubby back then. No way, the child of 8 says, that man has black hair and no beard, he is skinny with no beer gut and has all their teeth.
Work place has photo IDS to get into the building and to clock in. My ID photo was a good 15 years old and this nasty female dog tells me, say whose ID is that, it looks nothing like you. All so true we do age, woman and men change hair styles and face shape changes We gain or lose weight and sooner or later the wrinkles, jaw jowls, and chicken necks arrive.
I can see how Nads must have been 20 years ago an attractive woman, 25 years ago young, most likely loved to dance and flirt.
Genes and DNA can do their worse on those ageing. Some spend a fortune to prevent the signs of ageing, others just except the natural way of change.
(http://benfranklin1776.com/user/cimage/BFranklin-firehat.jpg)
Young Ben Franklin or Nads the Incomprehensible? You decide!
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Even a picture of someone older can reveal what that person may have looked like when they were younger. There is nothing about the bald dwarf that says "attractive", at ANY age.
And, Ugly and Hate show through at any age.
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Nadine is as shallow as a kiddy pool
Eh, more like she's as shallow as the amount of pee a toddler could produce to add to the kiddie pool water. :-)