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Mon May 6, 2013, 02:38 PM
Freddie Stubbs (28,511 posts)
Diplomat claims US forces told to stand down in Benghazi
Source: The Hill
U.S. special forces in Tripoli were prepared to fly to Benghazi on the night the U.S. mission was attacked but were told to stand down, a State Department whistleblower told congressional investigators.
The testimony by Gregory Hicks, who became the top U.S. diplomat in Libya when Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed, contradicts previous testimony by Obama administration officials who said all the security assets inside the country were tapped that night. Hicks said the special forces team was ready to fly after Stevens was killed but before a second attack killed two other Americans.
After Libya's prime minister called to tell him Stevens had died, Hicks said, “the Libyan military agreed to fly their C130 to Benghazi and carry additional personnel to Benghazi as reinforcements. But as the special forces team headed to the airport, Hicks said, they got a phone call from Special Operations Command Africa saying “you can't go now, you don't have authority to go now.â€
Republicans on the House oversight panel released portions of an April 11 interview with Hicks ahead of Wednesday's hearing on Benghazi. Hicks is scheduled to testify along with two other State Department officials with direct knowledge of the events of the attack last Sept. 11 and the Obama administration's response.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/297963-diplomat-claims-us-special-forces-told-to-stand-down-in-benghazi#ixzz2SXQtUFcj
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014475814
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)Mon May 6, 2013, 02:41 PM
Cali_Democrat (14,582 posts)
1. These fools are still stuck on Benghazi?
LOL
Screw you, Cali Democrat.
Here's a rare DUmmy that gets it.
Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)Mon May 6, 2013, 06:09 PM
leveymg (26,164 posts)
26. Yikes. If Hicks has any credibility, this could be explosive.
DUmmies, this is shaping up to be an honest-to-goodness LIHOP and Congressman Issa is on his way to proving it--and he won't need any chicken wire or cinder blocks to do it.
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it is possible-just possible, that this could bring down the presidency.
Watergate was nothing compared to this.
and it's all hitting the news before 2014. Obamacare imploding. Gun grabbing. Massive amnesty...and now this.
There will be a whole litany of democrat failures to herald in the new elections.
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**** you, Cali Dimmicrap, and the Obama ass you rode in on.
It's WAY past time to impeach the callous, incompetent, criminally negligent squatter in the People's House, and if something like Benghazi had happened on a Republican president's watch sniveling incompetents like Bob Shuffler/Schieffler/Schiessekopf wouldn't be six months behind the info curve. Stupid, ****ing mainstream enablers of an even more stupid ****ing moron in chief.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pq5dSYCGgo
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Stumbled across this on Facebook tonight. My heart is sad. :(
http://nation.foxnews.com/tyrone-woods/2012/10/27/father-slain-seal-tyrone-woods-slams-cowards-white-house
WOODS: You know, unfortunately, Sean, we have a generation of liars who have no moral background. Hopefully my son's sacrifice and his moral courage and his moral strength will encourage our next generation to be completely different. That we will change our direction. That we will raise up a new generation of true American heroes such as my son who have moral courage and who are not liars like too many people in authority are nowadays.
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it is possible-just possible, that this could bring down the presidency.
Watergate was nothing compared to this.
and it's all hitting the news before 2014. Obamacare imploding. Gun grabbing. Massive amnesty...and now this.
There will be a whole litany of democrat failures to herald in the new elections.
Just in time for midterms...bet all those dems who are up for reelection run as far away from him as they can! Can't believe the press is even doing this considering they want the left in total control of the government and Hill to be prez! So many random acts of journalism! Of course, it could be their usual "let's saturate this everywhere now so we can protect her from it when she runs! But this is the kind of thing Americans don't forget and can't abide...even low information voters. Except the far left but they're in the minority anyway.
Cindie
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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)Mon May 6, 2013, 02:41 PM
Cali_Democrat (14,582 posts)
1. These fools are still stuck on Benghazi?
LOL
Well you idiots are still crying over the fact that Bush won in 2000 and 2004. You morons are stuck on imaginary crimes while we are focused on a major cover up and a huge foreign policy blunder that cost 4 people their lives.
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blm (89,539 posts)
2. Old news - the victims were already dead and the murderers gone by then. There was no 'rescue'
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mission to launch at that point. The RW propaganda media is having a field day pretending otherwise. They know their dumbed down audience will hang their hats on every bit of distortion offered.
What a load of horseshit, the firefight lasted several hours and some of those people probably could have been saved with some back up. You DUmmies are too busy kissing 0bama's ass to realize how bad this is.
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I hope you die a slow, painful death like the one Chris Stevens endured, Cali_Democrat. LOL.
****ing animals.
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You DUmmies are too busy kissing 0bama's ass to realize how bad this is.
This could get bad -However, I expect Susan Rice to fall on her sword to protect Obama and Clinton. And after neither one of them are relevant any longer, Rice will make it all back on a book deal.
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One of the biggest dummies around
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This is absolutely disgusting. Still stuck on Benghazi? It happened EIGHT MONTHS AGO... on 9/11! I wasn't sure DU could hit a new low, but they sure have tonight. The media covered up Benghazi and followed along with the obvious lies this whole time until now.
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Cali_Democrat (14,582 posts)
1. These fools are still stuck on Benghazi?
LOL
Keep in mind that this lifeless clump of cells still bitches about Bush "stealing" the 2000 and 2004 elections.
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Liberals see no lapse in the logic that people showed up for a spontaneous protest armed with RPG's........over a YouTube Video. Their Obama/Messiah complex knows no bounds.
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Their Obama/Messiah complex knows no bounds.
That's right.
And that's why the Benghazi debacle will never amount to more than a partisan squabble.
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Just in time for midterms...bet all those dems who are up for reelection run as far away from him as they can! Can't believe the press is even doing this considering they want the left in total control of the government and Hill to be prez! So many random acts of journalism!
Cindie
The genie, so to speak, is out of the bottle. They can't ignore it any longer. They will twist themselves in knots to downplay it, but they can't hide it anymore.
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B2G (1,498 posts)
6. That's not exactly true
Hours went by between the death of Stevens and the others. Hours.
Hours we would be screaming about if a conservative was in office.
This one has a point. DUmmies still love to bas W's "inaction" on 9/11 because he decided wait 5 minutes to finish the story he was reading to those kids after he'd been told of the attack.
I can imagine the howls from the DUmp if he'd waited hours.
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geek tragedy (25,054 posts)
24. The annex was in Libya, where we didn't have a military presence.
So, yeah, deploying the US military blindly into a combat situation wasn't going to happen for about 10,000 legitimate reasons.
The annex's protection was not being known as an ops center for the CIA/military. Once its cover was blown, there was trouble.
That's what helicopters, SWCC boats, cargo planes, and ships are for, you DUmbass. Benghazi is a coastal town, we had a carrier group in the area, and military assets in Vicenza, Italy were right across the damn Med, not to mention military assets at the actual embassy. :bird:
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That's what helicopters, SWCC boats, cargo planes, and ships are for, you DUmbass. Benghazi is a coastal town, we had a carrier group in the area, and military assets in Vicenza, Italy were right across the damn Med, not to mention military assets at the actual embassy. :bird:
But they will never understand that they are too stupid
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That's what helicopters, SWCC boats, cargo planes, and ships are for, you DUmbass. Benghazi is a coastal town, we had a carrier group in the area, and military assets in Vicenza, Italy were right across the damn Med, not to mention military assets at the actual embassy. :bird:
DUmmie geek asshole forgot to mention the most obvious.
An attack on an American embassy is the same as an attack on America! When that happened, we had EVERY RIGHT to level the f'n country if we so desired!
geek tragedy (25,054 posts)
So, yeah, deploying the US military blindly into a combat situation wasn't going to happen for about 10,000 legitimate reasons.
F*** ""!0,000 legitimate reasons"! Your stupid ass can't come up with one.
I got several for you.
Ragheads attacked OUR EMBASSY!
They KILLED our ambassador and 3 others!
The attack lasted for HOURS!
We had MILITARY ASSETS close by that were TOLD TO STAND DOWN! BY WHO?
Barry LEFT, and wasn't seen again until long after this was over!
WTF!!!! :argh: :censored:
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geek tragedy (25,054 posts)
So, yeah, deploying the US military blindly into a combat situation wasn't going to happen for about 10,000 legitimate reasons.
That's what the drone was for, DUMbass, and this bullshit about "you don't deploy the military when it could put them in harms way", as you DUmb****s and that idiot Panetta tried to claim, is the biggest load of horseshit by a bunch of non-serving assholes I've ever heard in my life. What the **** do you idiots think war is? A giant pillow fight? :censored:
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That's what the drone was for, DUMbass, and this bullshit about "you don't deploy the military when it could put them in harms way", as you DUmb****s and that idiot Panetta tried to claim, is the biggest load of horseshit by a bunch of non-serving assholes I've ever heard in my life. What the **** do you idiots think war is? A giant pillow fight? :censored:
LOL! :lol:
DUmmies' idea of war: :catfight:
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LOL! :lol:
DUmmies' idea of war: :catfight:
....and a broken nail gets you a disability check.
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This is absolutely disgusting. Still stuck on Benghazi? It happened EIGHT MONTHS AGO... on 9/11! I wasn't sure DU could hit a new low, but they sure have tonight. The media covered up Benghazi and followed along with the obvious lies this whole time until now.
Benghazi should of never happened to begin with. We need answers. DU always hits a new low.
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That's what helicopters, SWCC boats, cargo planes, and ships are for, you DUmbass. Benghazi is a coastal town, we had a carrier group in the area, and military assets in Vicenza, Italy were right across the damn Med, not to mention military assets at the actual embassy. :bird:
Not to mention those really, really, really fast jets that can bomb the crap out of a target!
Cindie
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This could get bad -However, I expect Susan Rice to fall on her sword to protect Obama and Clinton. And after neither one of them are relevant any longer, Rice will make it all back on a book deal.
I don't think Rice falling on her sword will help. She was responsible for helping with the cover up, but the hearings are mostly about the inaction of the boy king's regime and the death of Americans that could have been prevented with the security that was requested several times and denied. And refusing to send in trained military who were close enough to at least prevent the second attack. The cover up is critical, but what happened in Benghazi is the main issue.
The tragically ironic part is, had they just sent in the requested for securty, the whole thing may have turned out to be a "minor squirmish" (or bump in the road, if you prefer) that really could have been blamed on the video because it would've been so short lived. Or having that presence may have deterred Al Qaeda into looking for a different target.
I don't have any idea how many security forces different embassies have. I'd bet most Americans don't. So if there were 50 Marines standing guard who "quickly put out the fire on a violent protest over a movie", I wouldn't have known the difference. By denying Ambassador Stevens' request, they caused the death of Americans serving THEIR administration on AMERICAN soil (unless under 0bama embassies aren't considered "our" soil anymore) and set in motion the dominoes that (hopefully) will bring down their administration and permanently damage Hillary's chances of sitting at the big boys' desk. Had she bothered to put on the balls of all the men she's had in a lock box all these years & sent in people with big guns & jets with big ass missles she would have gone a long way in proving to the LIV she had the cajones to make the hard decisions.
The MSM can't ignore this, though they'll try as hard as they can to make the country believe the embassy was attacked by a small band of independent agents brandishing Qtips. This is not "just sex", it's dead Americans that easily could have been prevented. They weren't having a conference call with Egypt while eating pizza, no one was having phone sex with an intern, they were either watching Americans die in real time or jetting off to Vegas to hang with Beyonce and JayZ. The worst CinC the history of the country was completely unavailable for hours and not once did he bother to get a report on what was happening. This isn't even the cover up of a burglary. Americans can ignore a lot of things but American deaths that could have been prevented, even low information voters will be angry and horrified when they hear the facts. We're still a patriotic country...evidence of that can be found in Boston and the spontaneous shouts of USA and flag waving from citizens and college students in what is one of the more extreme liberal enclaves in the country.
Cindie
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WTF...
:argh:
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Not to mention those really, really, really fast jets that can bomb the crap out of a target!
Cindie
If 18th Airborne Corps and it's divisions and lower echelons can be deployed to anywhere in the world within 18 hours, Obama and his gaggle of goons have NO excuse for not backing up a consulate in a coastal city with a USN Carrier group right in the Mediterranean.
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If 18th Airborne Corps and it's divisions and lower echelons can be deployed to anywhere in the world within 18 hours, Obama and his gaggle of goons have NO excuse for not backing up a consulate in a coastal city with a USN Carrier group right in the Mediterranean.
Not only was the FEST detachment of the State Department at Tripoli, IIRC, but there were Tier One Operators (probably Deltas) in Croatia at the time. Probably a squadron's worth--around 40 or so.
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She was responsible for helping with the cover up, but the hearings are mostly about the inaction of the boy king's regime and the death of Americans that could have been prevented with the security that was requested several times and denied. And refusing to send in trained military who were close enough to at least prevent the second attack.
Exactly, and it begs the question why Republicans wasted months arguing about whether the attackers were "terrorists" or "protesters".
It was such a stupid argument, and even the Hildebeast was right when she screeched "What difference does it make?"
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Cali_Democrat (14,582 posts)
1. These fools are still stuck on Benghazi?
LOL
I would expect nothing more from DUmmies who would kill a baby in an instant.
Why would they care about a full grown adult. :censored:
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If 18th Airborne Corps and it's divisions and lower echelons can be deployed to anywhere in the world within 18 hours, Obama and his gaggle of goons have NO excuse for not backing up a consulate in a coastal city with a USN Carrier group right in the Mediterranean.
Not to mention the Special Forces Team that was moved to Italy and was less than two hours out and never deployed.
Not to mention the Special Forces Team that was in ****ING TRIPOLI, which was told to stand down as they were boarding a LIBYAN C-130 to fly to the rescue.
Not to mention that the "staff" at the CIA Annex was in constant radio contact during the TERRORIST ATTACK and was continually calling out target coordinates and illuminating the attacking forces with a targeting laser, in hope that an air strike would be arriving.
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Not to mention the Special Forces Team that was moved to Italy and was less than two hours out and never deployed.
Not to mention the Special Forces Team that was in ****ING TRIPOLI, which was told to stand down as they were boarding a LIBYAN C-130 to fly to the rescue.
Not to mention that the "staff" at the CIA Annex was in constant radio contact during the TERRORIST ATTACK and was continually calling out target coordinates and illuminating the attacking forces with a targeting laser, in hope that an air strike would be arriving.
Some of their parents are speaking out.
http://nation.foxnews.com...slams-cowards-white-house
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It's too bad some Generals won't be testifying.
Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster
The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/was-africom-general-replaced-for-his-efforts-to-save-benghazi-security-officials/
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The Obama Administration also relieved the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette. It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.The Stars and Stripes reported:
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The media is full of stories saying Gen Ham's removal has nothing to do with Benghazi BUT;
Questions remain, especially because Ham's account of the terror attack contradicts the accounts of both Panetta and Barack Obama.
A source at the Pentagon told this writer that the tri-party consultation described by Panetta is unlikely at best and disingenuous at worst, because such decisions in the military are not taken by "consensus." This source, whose identity is being withheld, has extensive contact with the leadership arm of the reconnaissance and intelligence wing of the Pentagon and is very familiar with protocols in "hot" situations like Benghazi.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/sacking_general_carter_ham.html
An interesting article.
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It's too bad some Generals won't be testifying.
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I have yet to understand why...
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The DUmbasses shit their collective pants over Bush taking a whole *gasp* seven minutes to remain in place on 9/11 while the Secret Service arranged his security and his staff collated data. Team Obama circle jerks each other for hours and "there's noting to see here, folks".
**** you, DUmmies.
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If 18th Airborne Corps and it's divisions and lower echelons can be deployed to anywhere in the world within 18 hours, Obama and his gaggle of goons have NO excuse for not backing up a consulate in a coastal city with a USN Carrier group right in the Mediterranean.
They don't even need the XVII for this. Hell we have a whole entire MACOM for this area...it's called AFRICOM Africa Command. They could have launched fighters rom Aviano AB right across the Med and been on target within an hour. Those jets would have provided CAS until the Carrier Group got there.
You're right they have no excuse. This cover up starts at the very top. And I hope that there are people in Congress and the media who will..for once DO THEIR DAMN JOB and stay after this until it's resolved. Benghazi SHOULD hound this administration until it's very last day.
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They don't even need the XVII for this. Hell we have a whole entire MACOM for this area...it's called AFRICOM Africa Command. They could have launched fighters rom Aviano AB right across the Med and been on target within an hour. Those jets would have provided CAS until the Carrier Group got there.
I was making a comparison, not saying we needed the 18th, but yeah, there is no way any sensible person can look at this and NOT see a coverup. There were numerous assets within an hour of Benghazi.
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Today is the big day isn't it? Now, if they will just ask the right questions and get truthful answers......who am I kidding.....only me I guess.
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This source, whose identity is being withheld, has extensive contact with the leadership arm of the reconnaissance and intelligence wing of the Pentagon and is very familiar with protocols in "hot" situations like Benghazi.
Hmm I wonder if they could be talking about this guy:
http://www.hugsforsoldiers.org/node/310?size=_original
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Wasn't he trying to blame Hillary for failing to inform him?
What a joke!! Covering each others assess in a web of lies. Why can't they just admit they ****ed up and deal with whatever disciplinary actions? This is ridiculous.
DUmmie geek asshole forgot to mention the most obvious.
An attack on an American embassy is the same as an attack on America! When that happened, we had EVERY RIGHT to level the f'n country if we so desired!
F*** ""!0,000 legitimate reasons"! Your stupid ass can't come up with one.
I got several for you.
Ragheads attacked OUR EMBASSY!
They KILLED our ambassador and 3 others!
The attack lasted for HOURS!
We had MILITARY ASSETS close by that were TOLD TO STAND DOWN! BY WHO?
Barry LEFT, and wasn't seen again until long after this was over!
WTF!!!! :argh: :censored:
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What a joke!! Covering each others assess in a web of lies.
The problem with telling a lie is that at some point you have to keep telling bigger and bigger lies to cover up for the other ones..and each one becomes less credible.
Why can't they just admit they ****ed up and deal with whatever disciplinary actions? This is ridiculous.
Several reasons. There's the fact that Obama has done his best to never have his name atttached to any decision that puts him in the role of actually leading. Then there's the need to protect his "legacy" and his statement on the trail in 2012 about al-Qaeda being "on the run".
And then...and this is the chief reason...Liberals...no matter how guilty they are...no matter how culpable they might be...NEVER admit when they're wrong or made a mistake.
Why do you think they pinned 4 years of Obama policies on his predecessor?
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The problem with telling a lie is that at some point you have to keep telling bigger and bigger lies to cover up for the other ones..and each one becomes less credible.
Several reasons. There's the fact that Obama has done his best to never have his name atttached to any decision that puts him in the role of actually leading. Then there's the need to protect his "legacy" and his statement on the trail in 2012 about al-Qaeda being "on the run".
And then...and this is the chief reason...Liberals...no matter how guilty they are...no matter how culpable they might be...NEVER admit when they're wrong or made a mistake.
Why do you think they pinned 4 years of Obama policies on his predecessor?
I still think the truth will come out sooner or later and they will be held accountable. It's only that much lies and deceit will protect.
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Today is the big day isn't it? Now, if they will just ask the right questions and get truthful answers......who am I kidding.....only me I guess.
Not going to happen