Sat May 4, 2013, 03:42 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/10022798363#post5
JaneyVee (3,644 posts)
No One Wants To Bury Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
A funeral home owner in Worcester, Mass. is struggling to find a burial plot for one of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing. Four cemeteries in three states have refused to accept Tameran Tsarnaev’s body, according to the New York Daily News. Tsarnaev’s family wanted his body to go to a funeral home with experience doing Muslim rituals and that’s how the body ended up in the care of Peter Stefan. He may have experience with some of the less desirable members of society but has never seen anything like this. “I’ve had murderers here, people that murder their kids, people that murder their parents,†he said, according to the New York Times. Tsarnaev’s uncle Ruslan Tsarni requested a simple graveside service after his body is washed according to Muslim tradition.
But so far, no cemetery has agreed to take the 26-year-old who died from "gunshot wounds of torso and extremities" and blunt trauma to his head and torso, according to his death certificate that lists his time of death as 1:35 a.m. on April 19. "My problem here is trying to find a gravesite. A lot of people don't want to do it. They don't want to be involved with this," Stefan tells the Associated Press. A group of protesters has gathered outside his funeral home but Stefan is adamant that everyone deserves to be buried. "I keep bringing up the point of Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy. Somebody had to do those, too."
Stefan has said he will have to ask for help from the FBI or state authorities if he continues to be rejected.
Link: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_cemeteries_refuse_to_bury_boston_maraton_suspect.html
Sat May 4, 2013, 03:48 PM
hrmjustin (8,253 posts)
3. I am not surprised!
Who would want the publicity and the possibility of vandalism.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:46 PM
Cha (123,777 posts)
26. Or send him to Chechnya where they're putting up pro-Tsarnaev
posters on the walls in Grozny.
Sat May 4, 2013, 03:53 PM
annabanana (45,467 posts)
5. Tamerlan Tsarnaev is gone. He doesn't exist anymore.
There IS no "Tamerlan Tsarnaev".
He is pining for the fjords?
Sat May 4, 2013, 03:54 PM
Drale (7,268 posts)
6. Just cremate him and send him to his mother, if you can find her.
Response to Drale (Reply #6)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:02 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
11. Against Islamic Law
And I don't care how horrible he was in life...this is down right ridiculous IMO.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:22 PM
Drale (7,268 posts)
17. Your kidding right?
Its against Islamic Law to kill Innocent people, yet he did this.
Response to Drale (Reply #17)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
20. Yes, I am
He was horrible, he violated civil and religious law...what people are doing is lowering themselves to the same level of this man.
And perhaps people should read the Christian doctrine they espouse to follow.
But if you can't see it, not my fault.
(Something about another cheek, I am sure you have read...and there are others)
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:14 PM
sabrina 1 (33,907 posts)
38. I agree, Nadin. But don't expect many to understand. We have sunk to such a low level
here in the US that even the old methods of decency once an enemy is dead, no longer apply.
What a totally rotten society we have become.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:19 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
43. Well, there is this thing about decency
International law we are signatories to, and long standing traditions. Some go so far back as before the US was formed...they are codified in religious texts, in fact both the Bible and the Q'uoran, and civil tradition.
This speaks volumes of the vengeful, failed state we have become.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:00 PM
MineralMan (53,436 posts)
8. Cremate him, whether or not the family likes it.
For Pete's sake.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:33 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
21. There are places that have unmarked graves
Used for this purpose.
He is far from the worst ever in this country.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #21)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:36 PM
hrmjustin (8,253 posts)
22. As I said it is just easier to say no.
Response to hrmjustin (Reply #22)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:40 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
24. And to look like vengeful
Idiots who can't deal with the other. To me this speaks volumes
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:48 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
27. They got contracts with the state for indigent and criminal burials
He fits both, ok the second he was never convicted. But in the minds of many he is guilty. I am serious, this is about the other. Gacy was worst in many ways, he was buried after execution...this is because he is a Muslim.
Oh and burial at sea is against Muslim law as well.
The state will have to...but this speaks about the US...a lot. And I will add, not in a good way
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #27)
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:12 PM
MADem (85,460 posts)
37. Burial at sea is NOT against "Muslim law."
It is prescribed when the body might be abused, or dug up by animals.
It's not a first choice, but there are provisions in Islamic law for burial at sea.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:36 PM
The Straight Story (41,284 posts)
23. Bury his ass in my yard, I will charge people to piss on his grave
Response to Aerows (Reply #36)
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:16 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
41. Lovely, on both of you...
Really.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:22 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
45. I have seen that in the flesh
I will repeat to you what a homicide detective told me decades ago...you are giving. Tamerlan the kind of power you are not realizing, and selling your soul in the process.
Yup, paraphrasing here...
This is not about him...he is dead, cold, he won't hurt a soul ever again...it's about you.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:58 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
55. They have chosen to give Tamernan
A power Tamernan did not expect to have.
Hate is a powerful emotion. They don't get it, but they are starting down the same path the two Tsanaev's brothers went down.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)Liberal family values.
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:14 PM
sabrina 1 (33,907 posts)
What a totally rotten society we have become.
Deep fry him in bacon grease, after getting a ruling from nutcase nadin on muzzie law.
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:22 PM
Drale (7,268 posts)
17. Your kidding right?
Its against Islamic Law to kill Innocent people
:rotf: :lmao: Naive, willfully ignorant, starry-eyed moonbat.
Response to Drale (Reply #17)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
20. Yes, I am
He was horrible, he violated civil and religious law...what people are doing is lowering themselves to the same level of this man.
And perhaps people should read the Christian doctrine they espouse to follow.
But if you can't see it, not my fault.
(Something about another cheek, I am sure you have read...and there are others)
Response to Drale (Reply #6)
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:02 PM
nadinbrzezinski (119,544 posts)
11. Against Islamic Law
And I don't care how horrible he was in life...this is down right ridiculous IMO
I heard the Saudis refused him entry to visit Mecca, we could strap his body to some sort of transport and drop it off there.
Cremate his ass, and sprinkle his ashes in a hog lot.No need for cremation.
Let the rest of his heathen muzzy brethern know they will be buried the same way, if they try to pull the same stupid shit.
When you're dealing with animals, treat them like animals.
No need for cremation.
Hogs are omnivorous.
I think they just found a burial site for him...
(http://www.maine.gov/mdot/csd/images/MHS6a.jpg)
She needs to shut her pie hole
Entrance or exit?
I say stuff the SOB and put him on display at one of those Believe it or not places.
Yes I would pay a buck to check out his dead cold body, I am sure he would not mind, he is now in heaven with his 220 dead virgins that will surely nag at him for eternity.
What the heck do we care about the laws of his Faith being followed now that he is dead. He sure in life didn't care about the laws and rights of the people he killed and mutilated.
Far as his little brother goes, start a rumor going around that all his food is cooked with pork fat this will prevent him from saying his prayers each day and make life a living hell for him. [ that is if he is a true believer and not just a Muslim in name only]
Actually bury him in a pet Cemetery underneath the dead dogs, with a big snake and pot belly pig.
The big 3 NO No's for Muslims, Hogs, dogs and snakes. Will just be symbolic to us, can't harm him now.
What is more important, desecration of a dead body or desecration of a living person. I like the idea of dragging his dead body through the streets of Boston until it is just a smear on the pavement. Give the injured and their family's front place seating and perhaps this will be come part of some kind of closure to the family's and a warning to anyone else that decides to commit an atrocity in America...
War is ugly and not to be fought with no rules on one side and the other side having to be polite and sensitive to the feelings of those trying to kill them.
This is how the Russians and the Chinese keep their muzzy rejects in check. If one of them go all "jihadi", they not only kill him, they wipe out his family right down to the 10th cousin twice removed! IOW, they cut down the family tree, and roast his family over the bonfire they build with it.
Doesn't France have some vultures that need fed?
I say stuff the SOB and put him on display at one of those Believe it or not places.
Yes I would pay a buck to check out his dead cold body, I am sure he would not mind, he is now in heaven with his 220 dead virgins that will surely nag at him for eternity.
What the heck do we care about the laws of his Faith being followed now that he is dead. He sure in life didn't care about the laws and rights of the people he killed and mutilated.
Far as his little brother goes, start a rumor going around that all his food is cooked with pork fat this will prevent him from saying his prayers each day and make life a living hell for him. [ that is if he is a true believer and not just a Muslim in name only]
Actually bury him in a pet Cemetery underneath the dead dogs, with a big snake and pot belly pig.
The big 3 NO No's for Muslims, Hogs, dogs and snakes. Will just be symbolic to us, can't harm him now.
What is more important, desecration of a dead body or desecration of a living person. I like the idea of dragging his dead body through the streets of Boston until it is just a smear on the pavement. Give the injured and their family's front place seating and perhaps this will be come part of some kind of closure to the family's and a warning to anyone else that decides to commit an atrocity in America.
BTW I have no problem with our military pissing on the dead bodies of those that tried to kill them, Matter of fact sending the body's home with Shit in their mouth is not a bad idea.
War is ugly and not to be fought with no rules on one side and the other side having to be polite and sensitive to the feelings of those trying to kill them.
Doesn't France have some vultures that need fed?
I say his remains in a rocket and shoot it to the Sun.Yeah! And do it at night, so his carcass just lies there on the Sun and rots.
Yeah! And do it at night, so his carcass just lies there on the Sun and rots.
That's the ticket.
From what I have seen so far the rabid Muslims are up against the enraged others they threaten.
Yes we are Christians, and many other faiths in America but this does not mean we are all pacifists by our faith. Have to realise the number of Atheists that just may object to following anyones rules in anyones religion. We have the Black Muslims and the White Supremest, the Asian gangs and the Mafia from all over the globe, Russian to the Kenya gangs.
These people are taking baby steps to take over, a small Mosque in Tenn. or way up in Maine. Just baby steps to infiltrate each State and get us used to having them around. In small towns after10 years the Muslims work their way into the city council, get on the zoning boards and by golly they go to christian churches and few know they are Muslims.----
This is allowed and encouraged by the Muslim faith, to lie to a non believer and to have no problem break in the laws of the Muslim faith by tricking the non believers. A Muslim can do what ever to trick a non believer, he can eat pork, have a dog and blend in with the infidels. He can can have a good friend and if non Muslim hate them and their family's while being their best friend.
What is the matter with us Americans that put profits above a threat. Goats and sheep we become as profits become more important then freedom.
I really believe that you had a point you were trying to make, unfortunately I was unable to grasp it.
Vestanumbers reminds me of graham4anything, reading their posts and trying to make sense of it is kinda like lumosity.com
Throw his naked rotting carcass on a rock in the middle of Death Valley and drive away.